Nick Leddy Re-Signed On 2 Year Deal

[Capt. Serious]

Chicago Blackhawks ‏@NHLBlackhawks
Official: Blackhawks have re-signed D Nick Leddy to a two-year deal.

 

[Gunzaan]

Only two years? That stinks. He must want to break it big when he hits his prime.

Oh well, atleast we have him for 2 more years.

 

[KBIB]

Bridge contract that still leaves him a RFA when its up.

Hopefully it isn't more then a two million a year deal after being crazy glued to the bench when it mattered.



CHAMPS!!!

 

[Capt. Serious]

Right now, what is weird, is i've yet to see the term of it.

 

[TheChicagoFan]

The Hawks are gonna have to pay big time in 2 years is my guess. He's only going to get better.

 

[CreepyBasementGuy]

looking forward to see him improve

 

[dabynsky]

Seems like they might move him given the way he was used in the finals. I like the guy and hope he can continue to develop in Chicago. But he is going to get paid at some point and with the money devoted to defense means someone is going to have to be moved.

 

[Gunzaan]

Seems like they might move him given the way he was used in the finals. I like the guy and hope he can continue to develop in Chicago. But he is going to get paid at some point and with the money devoted to defense means someone is going to have to be moved.

Huh? They are still under the cap... And the cap is going to go up in the next few years. I'm not saying you are dead-wrong on him being moved, but this is the first I've heard of him needing to be moved... And it is the first I've heard of the Hawks spending too much on D.

Interesting take that I've never heard before. Care to elaborate?

 

[dabynsky]

Huh? They are still under the cap... And the cap is going to go up in the next few years. I'm not saying you are dead-wrong on him being moved, but this is the first I've heard of him needing to be moved... And it is the first I've heard of the Hawks spending too much on D.

Interesting take that I've never heard before. Care to elaborate?

I wasn't talking about the cap hit this contract. I was more talking about the pay raise that he is likely to get at the end of the next deal. Just combining that with the usage in the Final is why I thought he might be moved. The cap may go up significantly like Bowman has predicted, but Hammer is due a big pay raise after next season. You've got to pay the Toews and Kane in two years. You've already got over 5 million tied up in Seabrook and Keith. Just not sure how many big ticket players a team can carry, and right now Leddy would be a very attractive trade piece given his youth and contract situation for a lot of clubs.

 

[ClydeLee]

Re: Hawks re-sign Nick Leddy to 2 yr deal

I wasn't talking about the cap hit this contract. I was more talking about the pay raise that he is likely to get at the end of the next deal. Just combining that with the usage in the Final is why I thought he might be moved. The cap may go up significantly like Bowman has predicted, but Hammer is due a big pay raise after next season. You've got to pay the Toews and Kane in two years. You've already got over 5 million tied up in Seabrook and Keith. Just not sure how many big ticket players a team can carry, and right now Leddy would be a very attractive trade piece given his youth and contract situation for a lot of clubs.

That makes no sense... As you mention.. In two years they have those deals to wonder about besides Hammer/craw next year.

Why would you trade someone who will be a RFA again then, prime for trade value and in the only time they'll have a concern.

Besides I thought you couldn't do sign in trades in the NHL anyway. Unless that changed in the new cba

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[dabynsky]

That makes no sense... As you mention.. In two years they have those deals to wonder about besides Hammer/craw next year.

Why would you trade someone who will be a RFA again then, prime for trade value and in the only time they'll have a concern.

Besides I thought you couldn't do sign in trades in the NHL anyway. Unless that changed in the new cba

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Maybe I am just imagining another roster crunch in a few years, but if the cap jumps up than other players are going to soak up that money as contracts begin to reflect that new cap. I guess I am just wondering out loud if Leddy is likely to be part of the "core" in terms of contracts given which includes Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, and Sharp or if he is going to get moved because how many defenseman can you afford to be paying 4+ million to.

 

[Svic]

Maybe I am just imagining another roster crunch in a few years, but if the cap jumps up than other players are going to soak up that money as contracts begin to reflect that new cap. I guess I am just wondering out loud if Leddy is likely to be part of the "core" in terms of contracts given which includes Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, and Sharp or if he is going to get moved because how many defenseman can you afford to be paying 4+ million to.

Hossa only has about 1 or 2 years left. In two years we can buy out again and a big possibility hossa is gonna retire. He has had to many injuries paset few seasons. that would open up money for another core player

 

[dabynsky]

Hossa only has about 1 or 2 years left. In two years we can buy out again and a big possibility hossa is gonna retire. He has had to many injuries paset few seasons. that would open up money for another core player

No we can't buyout Hossa. Every team was given two compliance buyouts and they were used on Montador and Olesz. Hossa's contract counts against the Hawks cap for the length of contract no matter what Hossa does now.

 

[KBIB]

Hossa only has about 1 or 2 years left. In two years we can buy out again and a big possibility hossa is gonna retire. He has had to many injuries paset few seasons. that would open up money for another core player

While its true Hoss has maybe two good years left in him filled with injury, the Hawks are stuck with that contract now. There is no compliance buy out available unless you just want the Hawks to buy him outright and have a nice chunk of cap space wasted until the year 2029....no, really.

That contract circumvented the cap and now the Hawks are stuck with it and it will look rather bad in about three years time when Hossa starts to decline, and from the looks of it, his decline with be a rapid one.

As for Leddy, if he is making more then 2 million a year he is robbing the Hawks. He is a third pairing guy with a ceiling of being a second pairing guy on a weak defensive team. Subbans getting what, 2.85? And he won the damn Norris. Leddy isn't Subban, nor is he better in any category then him.


CHAMPS!!!

 

[DMelt36]

Not too hard to see what the plan is here.

CapGeek, again

First off, as a young up-and-coming player, it makes business sense to not lock yourself into a long-term deal, when you can expect yourself to play into a raise. So, good move on Leddy's part. He could be a whole different player in 2 more years.

Second, this makes a lot of sense for the Hawks, too. Hjalmarsson's contract is up in 2014, and will likely be getting a raise (here or elsewhere) if he continues to play the way he did in 2012-13. The key here, though, is that Oduya's contract is up in 2015. He'll be 33 years old then and will most likely walk in free agency, if he's not traded before then. That takes $3.38 million off the books and the salary cap is expected to start increasing as the league expects to make more money (duh) in the next few seasons. Gives the Hawks the ability to throw some more money at Leddy, should he continue to develop as a hockey player.

These are the kinds of subtle little deals that teams make to achieve long-term financial stability.

 

[dabynsky]

Not too hard to see what the plan is here.

CapGeek, again

First off, as a young up-and-coming player, it makes business sense to not lock yourself into a long-term deal, when you can expect yourself to play into a raise. So, good move on Leddy's part. He could be a whole different player in 2 more years.

Second, this makes a lot of sense for the Hawks, too. Hjalmarsson's contract is up in 2014, and will likely be getting a raise (here or elsewhere) if he continues to play the way he did in 2012-13. The key here, though, is that Oduya's contract is up in 2015. He'll be 33 years old then and will most likely walk in free agency, if he's not traded before then. That takes $3.38 million off the books and the salary cap is expected to start increasing as the league expects to make more money (duh) in the next few seasons. Gives the Hawks the ability to throw some more money at Leddy, should he continue to develop as a hockey player.

These are the kinds of subtle little deals that teams make to achieve long-term financial stability.

That makes sense, and perhaps that is the way it plays out. But it would seem then that the Hawks would have to have a third pairing on the cheap if they end up paying Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Leddy.

 

[DMelt36]

That makes sense, and perhaps that is the way it plays out. But it would seem then that the Hawks would have to have a third pairing on the cheap if they end up paying Keith, Seabrook, Hammer and Leddy.

I'd expect that third pairing to be made up of one prospect (Clendening, Johns, Lalonde, Stanton) and one reliable veteran player (think another Roszival). Probably a total hit of 2 or 3 million. Worked out real well this season, didn't it?

 

[dabynsky]

I'd expect that third pairing to be made up of one prospect (Clendening, Johns, Lalonde, Stanton) and one reliable veteran player (think another Roszival). Probably a total hit of 2 or 3 million. Worked out real well this season, didn't it?

Only because the prospect is a guy that might turn into a core type player and the veteran was unbelievable value for his contract. And even in those ideal circumstances it cost the Blackhawks 3.1 million.

 

[DMelt36]

Only because the prospect is a guy that might turn into a core type player and the veteran was unbelievable value for his contract. And even in those ideal circumstances it cost the Blackhawks 3.1 million.

Find me a team that won the Cup without players performing at a level that exceeded their cap hit. That's how you win the thing. Brent Sopel in 2010, for example.

And as far as the prospects, I keep reading/hearing great things about Johns and Clendening just posted the third most points among AHL defensemen in his first professional season. So, yeah, I see no reason why I should be ruling out that happening again.

 

[dabynsky]

Find me a team that won the Cup without players performing at a level that exceeded their cap hit. That's how you win the thing. Brent Sopel in 2010, for example.

And as far as the prospects, I keep reading/hearing great things about Johns and Clendening just posted the third most points among AHL defensemen in his first professional season. So, yeah, I see no reason why I should be ruling out that happening again.

I'm not ruling it out. I am just saying that it working in 2013 is hardly a sure thing going forward either. Again a lot here can change. If the cap goes way up and extensions to Hammer, Kane and Toews don't eat most of that up than this is all moot. I just potentially seeing the team having to choose between Hjalmarsson and Leddy in the relative near future.