Not one, not two, but THREE free agents???

[clonetrooper264]

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/25/knicks/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Now I don't know how likely or feasible this is, but if such a thing is possible and has a remote chance of happening, how crazy would that be? Bron, Wade, and Bosh on the same team? Unless two of them have career ending injuries, kiss a chance at a championship goodbye for at least the next decade.

I don't see it happening though.

 

[Shakes]

It's based on the idea that they'll give up a bunch of money to play together, which is so unlikely you can discount it without a second thought.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

It's based on the idea that they'll give up a bunch of money to play together, which is so unlikely you can discount it without a second thought.

Well if they do they also win championships for the next 5 years at least (that's when their contracts would expire barring sign and trade and whatnot) which is what they theoretically want. That team also has a possibility to break the 72 win record. The only issue with that team is...it'd be them and a bunch of scrubs. But really, they could have a whole D-League callup team and still be tops in the league.

I still don't see it happening, but I can see why they would at the very least consider it.

 

[Shakes]

If they wanted to win championships they could have accepted less money on their last deal. They didn't. When was the last time a superstar accepted less than a max deal? I'm thinking never.

Besides, everyone knows whoever goes to play with LeBron is going to have to play Pippen to LeBron's MJ. Can Wade or Bosh handle that? They want to win championships, but are they willing to pay the price of being thought of as the sidekick? I doubt it.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

If they wanted to win championships they could have accepted less money on their last deal. They didn't. When was the last time a superstar accepted less than a max deal? I'm thinking never.

Besides, everyone knows whoever goes to play with LeBron is going to have to play Pippen to LeBron's MJ. Can Wade or Bosh handle that? They want to win championships, but are they willing to pay the price of being thought of as the sidekick? I doubt it.

MJ played for far less than the max. I think he was making like...3-5 million per year or something ridiculous like that. As for the MJ/Pippen thing...they did all play together for the Olympics. I'm assuming they'd treat the team like that with a bunch of scrubs as the rest of the team instead of players like...Kobe and Carmelo.

 

[Shakes]

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

 

[TheStig]

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

Mj like Pip signed a long term deal that made him high paid at first but toward the end salaries started growing. I don't recall MJ giving up anything when he earned the two largest single season salaries in nba history.

 

[clonetrooper264]

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

Mj like Pip signed a long term deal that made him high paid at first but toward the end salaries started growing. I don't recall MJ giving up anything when he earned the two largest single season salaries in nba history.

Yeah for like the last couple years that he was with the Bulls. I do remember reading in the MJ tribute in SI that MJ was paid around 3 million for at the very least 3 years. He just made far more money in endorsements. Then at the end of his career he got the 30 million.

 

[TheStig]

clonetrooper264 wrote:

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

Mj like Pip signed a long term deal that made him high paid at first but toward the end salaries started growing. I don't recall MJ giving up anything when he earned the two largest single season salaries in nba history.

Yeah for like the last couple years that he was with the Bulls. I do remember reading in the MJ tribute in SI that MJ was paid around 3 million for at the very least 3 years. He just made far more money in endorsements. Then at the end of his career he got the 30 million.

They all did back then. Here is a sample of player salaries in 92-93.

Michael Jordan $4,000,000
Scottie Pippen $3,425,000
Patrick Ewing $3,300,000
Reggie Miller $3,211,000
Magic Johnson $2,500,000
Hakeem Olajuwon $3,170,000
Karl Malone $2,854,000
Charles Barkley $2,420,000
David Robinson $5,720,000

 

[MikeMeraz]

I don't think Wade and Lebron playing on the same NBA team is that cool, nor exciting for me. That would be like Magic and Bird playing on the same team after competiting against each other for the 1st half of their careers. Like MJ and Reggie Miller playing on the same team after they both were competiting against each other for so long.
Anyone catch my drift? Are Kobe and Carmelo gonna team up too? Than their would only be two teams in the intire NBA..

 

[postdiction]

Well with the new CBA coming around the next time these guys can get a big contract, 5-6 years the max contracts maybe much less valuable so they will not leave money on table.

D. Wade is very very $ conscious and is going through a divorce which means .5 of his savings are already gone so he will look to get a lot of $.

I don't see any of them signing for less than the max. I would also be surprised if any of them would give up the 6th year either choosing to remain with their teams or leaving via S&T.

 

[clonetrooper264]

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

Mj like Pip signed a long term deal that made him high paid at first but toward the end salaries started growing. I don't recall MJ giving up anything when he earned the two largest single season salaries in nba history.

Yeah for like the last couple years that he was with the Bulls. I do remember reading in the MJ tribute in SI that MJ was paid around 3 million for at the very least 3 years. He just made far more money in endorsements. Then at the end of his career he got the 30 million.

They all did back then. Here is a sample of player salaries in 92-93.

Michael Jordan $4,000,000
Scottie Pippen $3,425,000
Patrick Ewing $3,300,000
Reggie Miller $3,211,000
Magic Johnson $2,500,000
Hakeem Olajuwon $3,170,000
Karl Malone $2,854,000
Charles Barkley $2,420,000
David Robinson $5,720,000

Well shows how much I know. Dang...what a bargain for those players...owners must've been really happy then.

 

[pinkizdead]

clonetrooper264 wrote:

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/25/knicks/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Now I don't know how likely or feasible this is, but if such a thing is possible and has a remote chance of happening, how crazy would that be? Bron, Wade, and Bosh on the same team? Unless two of them have career ending injuries, kiss a chance at a championship goodbye for at least the next decade.

I don't see it happening though.

maybe it's a buy 2 get one free kind of deal? i think game stop had one the other day.

 

[TheStig]

clonetrooper264 wrote:

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

TheStig wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Shakes wrote:

There wasn't a max when MJ played, it was brought in after the lockout.

We're not talking a small amount of money being given up here. We're talking a max contract starting at 16+ million vs 10-11 million for all three to fit in New York.

The point was that MJ played for far less than his worth (which is an understatement). Regardless, I don't see this happening. Too much ego and not enough money.

Mj like Pip signed a long term deal that made him high paid at first but toward the end salaries started growing. I don't recall MJ giving up anything when he earned the two largest single season salaries in nba history.

Yeah for like the last couple years that he was with the Bulls. I do remember reading in the MJ tribute in SI that MJ was paid around 3 million for at the very least 3 years. He just made far more money in endorsements. Then at the end of his career he got the 30 million.

They all did back then. Here is a sample of player salaries in 92-93.

Michael Jordan $4,000,000
Scottie Pippen $3,425,000
Patrick Ewing $3,300,000
Reggie Miller $3,211,000
Magic Johnson $2,500,000
Hakeem Olajuwon $3,170,000
Karl Malone $2,854,000
Charles Barkley $2,420,000
David Robinson $5,720,000

Well shows how much I know. Dang...what a bargain for those players...owners must've been really happy then.

Yeah it was only the later years when guys like KG, Allan Houston and Glenn Robinson started getting monster deals that lead to cba. But 4 mill in 93 was worth a lot more than 4 mill today.

 

[TheStig]

pinkizdead wrote:

clonetrooper264 wrote:

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/25/knicks/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Now I don't know how likely or feasible this is, but if such a thing is possible and has a remote chance of happening, how crazy would that be? Bron, Wade, and Bosh on the same team? Unless two of them have career ending injuries, kiss a chance at a championship goodbye for at least the next decade.

I don't see it happening though.

maybe it's a buy 2 get one free kind of deal? i think game stop had one the other day.

The only concern I have about NY is if Tmac finishes the year strong and will resign there for a mill. Tmac and Gallinari plus a sg and big is a pretty good core. With more cap room the year after.

 

[pinkizdead]

they're weak at pg, sg, sf, and c. They basically have no players on their roster, and a bunch of role players. They have no draft picks left to offer for a sign and trade.

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

Yeah it was only the later years when guys like KG, Allan Houston and Glenn Robinson started getting monster deals that lead to cba. But 4 mill in 93 was worth a lot more than 4 mill today.

It's still only worth 6 million. Stars back then were playing for the equivalent of the MLE or worse, contracts have really grown since then. You can see why owners don't like the current CBA.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

TheStig wrote:

Yeah it was only the later years when guys like KG, Allan Houston and Glenn Robinson started getting monster deals that lead to cba. But 4 mill in 93 was worth a lot more than 4 mill today.

It's still only worth 6 million. Stars back then were playing for the equivalent of the MLE or worse, contracts have really grown since then. You can see why owners don't like the current CBA.

So has inflation. Gas prices used to be about a dollar per gallon, now they are three dollars a gallon. I am not sure what share of income they got but I can't imagine it being a wide disparity over what it is today. If you think thats bad, the most DR. J made was 1.5 mill.

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

Shakes wrote:

TheStig wrote:

Yeah it was only the later years when guys like KG, Allan Houston and Glenn Robinson started getting monster deals that lead to cba. But 4 mill in 93 was worth a lot more than 4 mill today.

It's still only worth 6 million. Stars back then were playing for the equivalent of the MLE or worse, contracts have really grown since then. You can see why owners don't like the current CBA.

So has inflation. Gas prices used to be about a dollar per gallon, now they are three dollars a gallon. I am not sure what share of income they got but I can't imagine it being a wide disparity over what it is today. If you think thats bad, the most DR. J made was 1.5 mill.

I'm talking about inflation. Total inflation is 50% from 1993 to 2010, that's where I got the 6 million number from.