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[truthbedamned]

Does daniel feel like teams will just let other teams start at the 30 rather than play special teams?

Is daniel doing his "im smarter than everyone" thing again?

From what I saw in the preseason teams were not even getting past the 25 on these returns, why would good ST units not use the new rule to their advantage?

I understand if a team has a really good KR, but the majority of teams will still be kicking in the return zone.

This is actually what BB predicted when he was on with Mcafee.

 

[msadows]

This is actually what BB predicted when he was on with Mcafee.

BB has not known football in about a decade, not sure taking his opinion on new football rules actually matters at this point. The game clearly passed him on.

Starting at the 30 sounds dumb for teams with a strong ST after how poorly most of the return units looked in preseason. You could be giving up 10+ yards.

I guess we will find out, I'm not claiming to be some genius over something that has yet to happen. Just seems absurd to me for a team to give up basically a free 5-10 yards.

 

[greg23]

BB has not known football in about a decade, not sure taking his opinion on new football rules actually matters at this point. The game clearly passed him on.

Starting at the 30 sounds dumb for teams with a strong ST after how poorly most of the return units looked in preseason. You could be giving up 10+ yards.

I guess we will find out, I'm not claiming to be some genius over something that has yet to happen. Just seems absurd to me for a team to give up basically a free 5-10 yards.

Nice try but the avg starting point off kick returns this preseason was the 28.8 yardline.....a 1.2 yard difference not a 10 yard difference vs a touchback.

All it's gonna take is 1 or 2 breakdowns with a long return/td.... and they'll all just revert back to kicking it out of the endzone

 

[greg23]

BB has not known football in about a decade, not sure taking his opinion on new football rules actually matters at this point. The game clearly passed him on.

Starting at the 30 sounds dumb for teams with a strong ST after how poorly most of the return units looked in preseason. You could be giving up 10+ yards.

I guess we will find out, I'm not claiming to be some genius over something that has yet to happen. Just seems absurd to me for a team to give up basically a free 5-10 yards.

And for a guy; bb; who "hasn't known football in a decade".....he's been to half the super bowls in the past decade

 

[DanielCCSBears]

He’s worth whatever another team offers.

Which is nothing. That was a charade to build him up so the fans would accept the fact that they were keeping him.

 

[msadows]

And for a guy; bb; who "hasn't known football in a decade".....he's been to half the super bowls in the past decade

Tom brady has been, the current state of the patriots is due to BB and his terrible decision making.

Its pretty clear the game has passed him by.

 

[msadows]

Nice try but the avg starting point off kick returns this preseason was the 28.8 yardline.....a 1.2 yard difference not a 10 yard difference vs a touchback.

All it's gonna take is 1 or 2 breakdowns with a long return/td.... and they'll all just revert back to kicking it out of the endzone

That stat I was not aware of, I just felt like every game I did watch when the starters played(NOT THE SCRUBS), there were almost never returns past the 25.

I'm guessing the above is factoring in all the big returns against bums.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

That stat I was not aware of, I just felt like every game I did watch when the starters played(NOT THE SCRUBS), there were almost never returns past the 25.

I'm guessing the above is factoring in all the big returns against bums.

there is also the possibility of the nfl still adjusting the rules to the kickoff. like making a kick in the endzone start at the 35, like they should do to make teams put the ball in play

 

[greg23]

That stat I was not aware of, I just felt like every game I did watch when the starters played(NOT THE SCRUBS), there were almost never returns past the 25.

I'm guessing the above is factoring in all the big returns against bums.

Avg starting position was 28.8

Does not decipher starters vs starters, starters vs bums, bums vs bums

Can easily see this play becoming an auto touchback by October unless you have a kicker who can place it in a corner around the 1-5 every time

 

[greg23]

there is also the possibility of the nfl still adjusting the rules to the kickoff. like making a kick in the endzone start at the 35, like they should do to make teams put the ball in play

Prerty sure they already said they weren't changing it this year

 

[greg23]

Which is nothing. That was a charade to build him up so the fans would accept the fact that they were keeping him.

So.now you're creating and believing conspiracies

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Prerty sure they already said they weren't changing it this year

and kicking it out of the endzone is a way to get that adjusted. which hasn't been shown anyway, kick returns are up compared to last season

 

[greg23]

and kicking it out of the endzone is a way to get that adjusted. which hasn't been shown anyway, kick returns are up compared to last season

Of course they're up......it's preseason....there was zero reason/incentive to kick it into/out of the endzone.

 

[msadows]

Avg starting position was 28.8

Does not decipher starters vs starters, starters vs bums, bums vs bums

Can easily see this play becoming an auto touchback by October unless you have a kicker who can place it in a corner around the 1-5 every time

I mean....starter vs bum is a big deal. That 28.8 is skewed just like all of velus's 20 yard runs vs. guys who are now unemployed.

Especially in preseason. Dont worry, we will soon know if daniel is a secret genius or the moron we all know he is.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

So.now you're creating and believing conspiracies

So you think a team wanted to trade for Velus and that Ryan Poles was going to demand more in a trade than the Justin Fields trade?

 

[Spitta Andretti]

So you think a team wanted to trade for Velus and that Ryan Poles was going to demand more in a trade than the Justin Fields trade?

You have zero clue who teams inquire and offer picks for

You're just making a guess. A dumb one at that because you seem to think they're purposely lying about it

 

[playthrough2001]

Which is nothing. That was a charade to build him up so the fans would accept the fact that they were keeping him.

So Ryan Poles just made it up on a HBO program that will be viewed by millions. Don’t you think guys like Rap and Florio would be all over him if it was fabricated?

Use your brain.

 

[greg23]

So you think a team wanted to trade for Velus and that Ryan Poles was going to demand more in a trade than the Justin Fields trade?

So you think they had a conversation/discussions about a trade offer that they made up for the show/cameras/fans?

 

[remydat]

Nice try but the avg starting point off kick returns this preseason was the 28.8 yardline.....a 1.2 yard difference not a 10 yard difference vs a touchback.

All it's gonna take is 1 or 2 breakdowns with a long return/td.... and they'll all just revert back to kicking it out of the endzone

That is the average but there is huge standard deviation if you kick it and let them return. Could be starting at the 10 if it is muffed or could be a TD. The standard deviation if you kick it in the end zone is 0 as it is to the 30 yard line every time.

KC avg starting position could be 22 because their KR sucks so you giving Mahomes extra yeadds. Another team could be 35 because they have a goos return. So the 28.8 is meaningless as it is across all teams and could vary a lot.

 

[Kurtosis]

So you think a team wanted to trade for Velus and that Ryan Poles was going to demand more in a trade than the Justin Fields trade?

You buy your pizza from Comet Ping Pong?