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A Top-10 running back that succeeded against the worst rush defenses in the country week in and week. Ashton Jeanty is going to be the market correction to Saquon Barkley.

Jeanty does not have one elite quality. He's not as fast as Reggie Bush he's not as elusive as Reggie Bush and he's smaller. Jeanty is a good player but there's nothing he does that we haven't seen before. We've seen 100 other backs run the ball the same way he does. He just racked up video game numbers against bad players.

Then he shows up in the biggest game of his career against power-4 talent and was shut down.

Jeanty is not a freak. Derek Henry Adrian Peterson Saquon Barkley those dudes are freaks. Tell me one thing Jeanty does better than Bijan Robinson?
Agree! Not only did he get shut down for be most part vs PSU, he fumbled twice!
 

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A Top-10 running back that succeeded against the worst rush defenses in the country week in and week. Ashton Jeanty is going to be the market correction to Saquon Barkley.

Jeanty does not have one elite quality. He's not as fast as Reggie Bush he's not as elusive as Reggie Bush and he's smaller. Jeanty is a good player but there's nothing he does that we haven't seen before. We've seen 100 other backs run the ball the same way he does. He just racked up video game numbers against bad players.

Then he shows up in the biggest game of his career against power-4 talent and was shut down.

Jeanty is not a freak. Derek Henry Adrian Peterson Saquon Barkley those dudes are freaks. Tell me one thing Jeanty does better than Bijan Robinson?
If Jeanty is the pick, it’s more Poles accommodating his new coach than something he would have at the top of his list.

You’re just lashing out. I’ve said all over this board I want Banks Jr. at 10.

Plus, Jeanty is a much better player than you’re suggesting.
 

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I guess Daniel is right. It appears Jeanty isn’t that fast or am I reading this upside down?

College Football’s Fastest Players: Most Appearances at 21.0+ mph​

  • Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State: 4 times
  • Jeremiah Smith, WR, Ohio State: 2 times
  • Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama: 2 times
  • Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina: 2 times
  • Isaac Brown, RB, Louisville: 2 times
  • Moochie Dixon, WR, SMU: 2 times
  • Nicholas Singleton, RB, Penn State: 2 times
  • Rayshawn Pleasant, DB, Tulane: 2 times
  • Amare Thomas, WR, UAB: 2 times

College Football’s Fastest Players: Most Appearances​

  • Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State: 5 times
  • Jeremiah Smith, WR, Ohio State: 4 times
  • Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama: 3 times
  • Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina: 3 times
  • Kanye Udoh, RB, Army 3 times
  • Duke Watson, RB, Louisville: 2 times
  • Isaac Brown, RB, Louisville: 2 times
  • Moochie Dixon, WR, SMU: 2 times
  • Jeremiyah Love, RB, Notre Dame 2 times
  • Nicholas Singleton, RB, Penn State: 2 times
  • Rayshawn Pleasant, DB, Tulane: 2 times
  • Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado 2 times
  • Amare Thomas, WR, UAB: 2 times
  • CJ Campbell Jr., RB, FAU: 2 times
  • Ashton Daniels, QB, Stanford: 2 times
 

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There has been sooooo many scouts say that Campbell will not do well at LT. Please do not draft him at 10!
 

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I didn’t see his 2 fumbles after his 3.5 YPC, sorry.

I don’t hate the guy and can live with at 10 since we have BJ here now and I trust him, but using other picks to move up for him is my problem. We aren’t there yet. Give me trenches at 10 and Hendrickson or Judkins at 39.
The fumbles are an issue but talking about his ypc when the other roster is infinitely better at almost every position is a real bad take. He can't beat a top 5 college team by himself. He was still breaking a ton of tackles but there was just a lot more guys there to tackle him after because his teammates can't compete against PSU.
 

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Oh great cryin Ryan has his new “Rudy” olineman draft pick. This T-Rex can not play LT in the NFL consistently.
Poles is going to give Johnson what he wants..........................if that's Campbell I can't complain. Don't think he will be there at 10 though.
 

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If Jeanty is the pick, it’s more Poles accommodating his new coach than something he would have at the top of his list.

You’re just lashing out. I’ve said all over this board I want Banks Jr. at 10.

Plus, Jeanty is a much better player than you’re suggesting.


He’s not Saquon. I will call anyone out making that comparison. But he is definitely a great prospect
 

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Nolen is super talented but there are some character/work ethic concerns there. That always bothers me but this staff might be able to get the most from him. Definitely would not take him at 10 though.
I think if you have issues with Nolen, you don't take him later in 1 or at 39 either. I'd be fine with him at 10 or not at all... but mostly fine.

He takes plays off? Comes out when tired? That happens when you expend the sort of energy he does when he's on song. If he needs that to keep fresh, like every DT trying to penetrate, rotate as required. It's why we need another one anyway. I suspect Allen would love to have him and any Bear mention of Nolen has been suspiciously quiet.

I could easily see the Bear drafting Graham or Nolen at 10 and actually think that's where they should go.
 

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Poles is going to give Johnson what he wants..........................if that's Campbell I can't complain. Don't think he will be there at 10 though.

Then just make Ben Johnson the GM. Poles needs to bring value and if BJ really wants this guy as his LT he needs to sit the coach down and explain why it ain’t happening.
 

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I am to the point that if that’s the route they go I am just going to golf clap and enjoy him while he’s here.
I want the bears to spend 3 picks on trenches in the first 4 picks. But I'm definitely a fan of jeanty. If he fell to 10 and they take him, I think he'll be a lot of fun to watch.

I'm good if they don't take him too because there is some nice OL/DL options at 10.
 

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Yup, speaking of Wirfs, I think this one sold me:

According to NFL Research, Membou is one of four offensive linemen ever to jump better than a 30-inch vertical and run a sub-5.00 40 at 315 pounds or heavier. Two other men on the list also happen to be two of the NFL's best blockers currently: the 49ers' Trent Williams and the Buccaneers' Tristan Wirfs. That's pretty good company.


This also helps:
I think Membou is assuredly gone by 10
 

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Yup, speaking of Wirfs, I think this one sold me:

According to NFL Research, Membou is one of four offensive linemen ever to jump better than a 30-inch vertical and run a sub-5.00 40 at 315 pounds or heavier. Two other men on the list also happen to be two of the NFL's best blockers currently: the 49ers' Trent Williams and the Buccaneers' Tristan Wirfs. That's pretty good company.


This also helps:
That Theo ash character clearly hasn't watched membou. Questioning his play strength is an embarrassing lack of awareness of the player.
 

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"Trying to predict the Bears’ Big Board at 10​

Here’s an attempt to get inside the heads at Halas Hall

1. Ashton Jeanty, Boise State Running Back

I feel like the smoke here has to be from an actual fire. “Ben Johnson is smitten” is something that’s circulated in the league. People from every angle feel the Bears' interest in Jeanty is genuine. The question is, how strong is the interest? Would the Bears just wait and see if he drops to 10? Or will they be aggressive and trade up to the 5th or 7th spot to go grab the Boise State running back?

2. Will Campbell, LSU OL

There are plenty of questions as to where Will Campbell would play at the NFL level. I feel pretty confident that the Bears see him as an LT. Ryan Poles mentioned bringing in competition for Braxton Jones and Campbell would certainly be that, and allow the Bears to have their LT on a rookie contract through 2028, which would be helpful when they are paying three IOL, and Darnell Wright’s extension should be 12 months away. Ben Johnson wants a strong offensive line, and the IOL investment in free agency should only be the beginning.

3. Trade Back

I believe that if the Bears can’t land their weapon of choice in Jeanty or the OL they like the most, they would be comfortable moving back. The question is, can they find a partner? Plenty of NFL insiders are reporting that the Houston Texans want to move up aggressively to grab Kelvin Banks. Banks will most likely be there at 10 (but he could go before that). Could the Bears make a move that could net them a 2026 first-round pick? Even if it didn’t, the compensation could be something like the Texans' picks at 25, 58, 89, and a 2026 2nd or 3rd round pick as well. Perhaps a smaller trade back to Indianapolis so they can come up and get a tight end? It will be interesting to see if the Bears want to move back if they can find a partner willing to pay the capital one would need to move up.

4. Mason Graham, Michigan DT

The Bears have been softly tied to Graham a few times, but this isn’t too concrete and more of a projection from me. Graham had been assumed to be going in the top 5 or 6 for months, and now there’s some info leaking out that he could fall in the draft a little and might be available to the Bears at 10. Graham would give the Bears a loaded DT room with Gervon Dexter, Andrew Billings, and Grady Jarrett. Those four could come at teams in waves and give Montez Sweat and Dayo Odeyingbo more one-on-ones on the outside to open up the pass rush.

5. Kelvin Banks, Texas OL

If you had asked me two hours ago, I probably would have had Banks 7th on this list, but I’ve moved him up to 5th. I think Banks is probably more intriguing to the Bears than the tight ends, although I think there’s some level of interest from the Bears there as well. Do the Bears view Banks as a guard or a tackle? To take him at 10, they would have to see him as their future LT. If they trade down and Banks slides a little, the Bears might consider him if they believe he needs to be a guard in the NFL. There have been plenty of people tying the Bears to Banks.

6. Colston Loveland, Michigan TE

I think most people would assume that Tyler Warren would be ahead of Loveland on the Bears board, and he very well could be, but I see Loveland as a guy that would complement Cole Kmet better than Warren and of the two tight ends, Loveland is the better pass catcher and a higher upside in that area. Ben Johnson would be lethal in 12 personnel of Loveland is the real deal.

7. Tyler Warren, Penn State TE

If the Bears have Loveland over Warren, Warren would most likely not have strong consideration by Chicago because the odds that Loveland is off the board and Warren is available at 10 would be quite small. The Bears have been tied to both tight ends and, if we’re being honest, when you look at the Bears roster, they could use one more strong target for Caleb Williams so with the lack of WR options at this point, taking one of these two tight ends does make sense on a lot of levels.

8. Mykel Williams, Georgia Edge

The Bears have been rumored on a handful of defensive players, but it certainly seems like the lean with their first-round pick would be an offensive player. But if the board breaks poorly and the Bears' top choices aren’t there, taking what is probably their EDGE2 behind Abdul Carter makes a lot of sense. The Philadelphia Eagles have had a lot of success drafting Georgia defenders (Ryan Pace didn’t do poorly with it either), so Williams could be the move here.

9. Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M Edge

I have a lot of concerns about Stewart, but so many scout-types love how he projects. Stewart wasn’t very productive in college, but he has the perfect NFL body, and the hope would be that he develops and grows into his tools and becomes an elite defensive player. I prefer the Billy Beane philosophy of “If he’s such a good hitter, why doesn’t he hit good?” I want to see more production out of players in college, especially for a first-round pick, but the Bears have been connected to Stewart on more than one occasion.

10. Josh Conerly, Jr, Oregon OT

Conerly was expected to be a second-round pick for months. About two weeks ago, Conerly started being projected as a pick in the 20s, now we are starting to see that he could go in the teens. Taking Conerly at 10 seems like a long shot, but what if the Bears do a small trade down with the Colts and move to 14? Conerly would absolutely be in play there. Conerly is a true LT and has strong character both on and off the field, and feels like a guy the Bears organization would love."

 

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