Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only

[knoxville7]

It’s time for the @ILoveDick Mock Draft 1.0

Come on, log back in and go on the record with how you would like the Bears to use their draft picks. You love dissecting their choices in hindsight almost as much as you love dick, but rarely do you have an opinion when it counts.

Don’t you want to start the clock to burn off your name change?

We’ll give you extra credit if you know when the draft actually takes place too.

LFG!

@ILoveDick has to be the biggest biatch in the history of CCS(saying A LOT) for his running off and hiding

im sure captain hindsight is just busy "servicing" customers on the street corner

 

[--CyBear--]

@ILoveDick has to be the biggest biatch in the history of CCS(saying A LOT) for his running off and hiding

im sure captain hindsight is just busy "servicing" customers on the street corner

Is that your pegleg or are you happy to see me?

I think that may have been what he called his roomies member. Good ol' pegleg.

 

[thenewguy]

I've never understood why NFL scouting on TE's has been so historically awful. Wasn't Gates an UDFA? Same with Sharpe (maybe 7th round?) But to your point, DT & DE studs are best taken early.

After QB, TE is probably the biggest learning curve when entering the NFL. You need to understand OL blocking schemes and line calls, your own blocking assignments, motion calls, route trees that are equivalent to learning two different WR positions, and being able to effectively execute blocking and receiving against NFL players. Some teams are better at simplifying than others, but that's why it takes a couple of years to develop. Successful TEs need to have a good work ethic and usually need to be smart or disciplined and tough. It's a lot to scout and develop.

This is why I do like Warren. He handled a ton of different things at PSU and seems to just be a true football player with great instincts and awareness.

 

[legendxofxlink]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886998111836336130

This is kinda crazy. I like Hampton a lot, but he’s not jaw dropping, which you kinda need to be in a deep class as a 1st round RB…

 

[Xplosive]

They are going to add another DE. And they can add one for very cheap in the draft (even the #10 pick will cost like $5m against the cap) in the first or second round, where EDGE is one of the best positions in the draft. As I mentioned, there will be plenty of playing time at DE. I'd guess R2.

Yes, they can upgrade Billings but he is still a far, far more reliable player than Booker.

Not sure where $48m comes from, it's about $40 in aav and $34 in cap space for 26.

You could be right about them taking a DE somewhere in the draft but it all depends on how the picks play out. You also have to take a few things into consideration.

#1 Dennis Allen has a clear and obvious TYPE of player that he wants for the DE position, so that cuts out many players that may be good players but don't fit the scheme. This narrows down the options in each round, and at #10 its Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart and hopefully its not Stewart.

#2 Ben Johnson is a former OC & TE coach that will be looking to build an offense around players that fit his own prototypes and ideology, so who is to say that he wants his 1st pick to be another toy for the defense? Everyone knows that he didn't exactly demand that the Lions keep Swift and just because Bears fans love Kmet, who's to say that he does?

The $48 Millions is from Spotrac. They list how much the Bears are spending for the Defensive Line on their site ($48,309,461) which places them in the top 10 overall. Adding another $23M in guaranteed money to the DE position with the #10 pick would definitely be a big deal.

As for my mock, I used a mock simulator and made choices based on availability and needs of the team. I could have forced the Bears to take a DE like Landon Jackson at #41 but after taking a very good DT Prospect at #39 I felt that the need is greater at LB. I love Edwards but he is slow and in his last year. Perhaps next season the Bears keep Edwards and move him to MLB and save money by cutting Edmunds. So to me Schwesinger will be more valuable than the 3rd/4th DE on the team.

Same thing happened again at FS, I love what Mukuba brings to the table and he looks like he can develop into the kind of player the Bears haven't had since Mike Brown or even Mark Carrier in the 90s, big hitters that are also ballhawks. Plus he fills a need.

In reality Grant may not even last to #72 because of his measurables but I do know that Braxton needs more competition than Amegadjie. Perhaps I could have gone DE at #86 but since I want a TE out of this deep draft and Arroyo is great I took him... Etc, Etc, Etc.

 

[Xplosive]

This is kinda crazy. I like Hampton a lot, but he’s not jaw dropping, which you kinda need to be in a deep class as a 1st round RB…

He's had back to back seasons of +1500 yds rushing & 15 TDs each year against much tougher competion and with less usage than Jeanty. He is a better receiver and pass protector. Go look at the tape for Boise State's interior offensive line, they are much better than the line UNC had. I think if the players were able to switch teams Jeanty wouldn't have outperformed Hampton at all.

 

[--CyBear--]

This is kinda crazy. I like Hampton a lot, but he’s not jaw dropping, which you kinda need to be in a deep class as a 1st round RB…

He's 220lbs with a jump cut and gets to speed quickly. Not extra nifty but should be great in a zone run scheme. I think he'll be successful but might be getting too much hype right now. He should be a VG to great pro but may be drafted a little early due to being close to a sure thing.

 

[knoxville7]

Is that your pegleg or are you happy to see me?

I think that may have been what he called his roomies member. Good ol' pegleg.

did you got to school with @ILoveDick ?

 

[dennehy]

You could be right about them taking a DE somewhere in the draft but it all depends on how the picks play out. You also have to take a few things into consideration.

#1 Dennis Allen has a clear and obvious TYPE of player that he wants for the DE position, so that cuts out many players that may be good players but don't fit the scheme. This narrows down the options in each round, and at #10 its Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart and hopefully its not Stewart.

#2 Ben Johnson is a former OC & TE coach that will be looking to build an offense around players that fit his own prototypes and ideology, so who is to say that he wants his 1st pick to be another toy for the defense? Everyone knows that he didn't exactly demand that the Lions keep Swift and just because Bears fans love Kmet, who's to say that he does?

The $48 Millions is from Spotrac. They list how much the Bears are spending for the Defensive Line on their site ($48,309,461) which places them in the top 10 overall. Adding another $23M in guaranteed money to the DE position with the #10 pick would definitely be a big deal.

As for my mock, I used a mock simulator and made choices based on availability and needs of the team. I could have forced the Bears to take a DE like Landon Jackson at #41 but after taking a very good DT Prospect at #39 I felt that the need is greater at LB. I love Edwards but he is slow and in his last year. Perhaps next season the Bears keep Edwards and move him to MLB and save money by cutting Edmunds. So to me Schwesinger will be more valuable than the 3rd/4th DE on the team.

Same thing happened again at FS, I love what Mukuba brings to the table and he looks like he can develop into the kind of player the Bears haven't had since Mike Brown or even Mark Carrier in the 90s, big hitters that are also ballhawks. Plus he fills a need.

In reality Grant may not even last to #72 because of his measurables but I do know that Braxton needs more competition than Amegadjie. Perhaps I could have gone DE at #86 but since I want a TE out of this deep draft and Arroyo is great I took him... Etc, Etc, Etc.


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I'd imagine DL includes DT as well as DE on spotrac. Dennis Allen has also used an undersized EDGE player as kinda hybrid off ball LB/DPR, Kaden Ellis.

That mock would not be something I would like.

 

[dabears70]

Denver - YES

Chargers - YES

Pitt - YES

 

[bamainatlanta]

Gates didn't play college football, so it's understandable in that case. But in general I agree with you.

I always forget about that. His last collegiate game was in the elite 8 if I’m not mistaken.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I'd imagine DL includes DT as well as DE on spotrac. Dennis Allen has also used an undersized EDGE player as kinda hybrid off ball LB/DPR, Kaden Ellis.

That mock would not be something I would like.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they went with Jalon Walker since he can be used in a variety of ways. Walker could be the guy that Floyd was supposed to be when he was here (what he became after he left).

 

[dabears70]

I always forget about that. His last collegiate game was in the elite 8 if I’m not mistaken.

Wasn't he a basketball player in college?

Edit: elite 8......got it. LOL

 

[DefNextYear]

What you have to look at is what team needs a RB at the end of the 1st round?

Eagles - no
Chiefs - maybe (Hunt/Pacheco)
Bills - no
Was - maybe (Brian Robinson)
Det - no
Bal - no
Rams - no
Hou - maybe?

So I guess there ARE a few teams that might make that move.

The problem that's hard to account for will be trades. You can't really discount that possibility. Not only do you consider teams that may trade up into the 20s, you also have to factor any team that may trade down into the 20s.

 

[Xplosive]

I'd imagine DL includes DT as well as DE on spotrac. Dennis Allen has also used an undersized EDGE player as kinda hybrid off ball LB/DPR, Kaden Ellis.

Looks like Ellis was always an OLB in college and as a 7th round pick with very good athleticism he probably showed enough to stick around on the Saints roster. His Arm length was 32.75" and only 238lbs so definitely out of the norm for Allen at DE.

 

[thenewguy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886998111836336130

But what's his arm length measurement?

 

[playthrough2001]

But what's his arm length measurement?

30.5”

 

[thenewguy]

30.5”

Then I'm worried he might have to get moved to FB

 

[bamainatlanta]

But what's his arm length measurement?

How many bench press reps can he do though?

 

[SugarWalls]

But what's his arm length measurement?

I don't get this joke as if arm length does not matter for certain positions in the NFL.