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Ryan Pace and Matt Eberflus are getting their fists ready
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Butkus34
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Kid is on the next level mind game wise, total reverse psychology. I don't blame him and he probably doesn't have to worry.
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Not pickens, he's clearly a bust, but guys like stevenson, dexter, gordon, brisker, Wright, Odunze, etc should all be expected to make jumps this year.
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Why is Billings gone? are we presuming he isn't going to play well after injury or something? He's the best player on the DL
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Ive been saying this since the combine when Stewart starting getting all the Danielle Hunter comps. He is elite NFL size and athleticism but has 0 technique. And while that perhaps can be fixed, its a giant red flag to me that he's had 3 years of college ball and still looks like its his first year playing the sport. Maybe Texas A&Ms coaching staff are god awful but 3 years is a lot of time to make 0 improvements to your game. Not every athlete is able to make the jump to being a football player, even with time and effort - there is a mental hurdle that not every mind is able to overcome and Stewart to me is a giant red flag. If he was like a Nigerian import who just started playing football at 18 I think I could get passed those concerns - but Shemar been playing ball since he was 8.
Switching topics, as far as DT in the first, I personally like that path a lot especially if it can be paired with a trade down. I know there are posters on here who have already made up there minds and arent open to changing them, and thats OK you cant save every soul. But PHI is not a good example of why drafting a DT at 10 is a bad idea, here is their DT rotation in '23 after they drafted Carter at 10 - a lot of similarities with the Bears roster in that they had an aging veteran DT, a promising young 3T on a rookie contract in his 3rd year, and a NT already on the roster:
You dont need to get guys snaps just to hit a number, unless you have a superstar at the position or absolutely no depth behind starters 50-60% snaps keeps legs fresh so youre getting higher quality reps from each person in the rotation.
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I think this is part of the pains in developing a big board. He probably needs to go to a team that doesn't need him to play right away. He can ideally learn behind great coaching and/or a superstar edge. Anything else is setting him up for failure. I think a lot of the teams in the 20s give him his best shot... maybe the Steelers being the ideal landing spot for him. The Hunter comp gives an obvious Vikings pairing as a good one too. I think Flores can leave sooner than later though and that would leave him in flux.
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He’ll drop to Philly and become a 15 sack a year guy and hall of famer. Bears draft him and he’d look like Shea McClellan or whatever his name was.
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From Finley at the Sun Times today…
He predicts the top ten.
“10. Bears — Penn State TE Tyler Warren
Yes, the Bears need help at left tackle — it’d be surprising if their plan is really to let Braxton Jones and Kiran Amegadjie fight it out, particularly because the former might not be fully recovered from ankle surgery until training camp. The fact remains, though, that the Bears think there are fewer than 10 top-tier players in the draft. If one makes it to No. 10, the Bears have to take him. If they draft Warren, they could worry about drafting an offensive lineman and running back with one of their two Round 2 picks.
Part of what drew the Bears to coach Ben Johnson was the creativity he showed in creating not only a playbook but also clever personnel usage. The fact that the Bears already have Cole Kmet as an in-line tight end will only encourage Johnson to move Warren around the field, and that’s a good thing. Warren played all over in Happy Valley, even taking 40 snaps as a Wildcat quarterback.
With the Lions last year, Johnson used two or more tight ends on the field 35% of the time, the third-most in the NFL. Having two capable tight ends isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.”
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He predicts the top ten.
“10. Bears — Penn State TE Tyler Warren
Yes, the Bears need help at left tackle — it’d be surprising if their plan is really to let Braxton Jones and Kiran Amegadjie fight it out, particularly because the former might not be fully recovered from ankle surgery until training camp. The fact remains, though, that the Bears think there are fewer than 10 top-tier players in the draft. If one makes it to No. 10, the Bears have to take him. If they draft Warren, they could worry about drafting an offensive lineman and running back with one of their two Round 2 picks.
Part of what drew the Bears to coach Ben Johnson was the creativity he showed in creating not only a playbook but also clever personnel usage. The fact that the Bears already have Cole Kmet as an in-line tight end will only encourage Johnson to move Warren around the field, and that’s a good thing. Warren played all over in Happy Valley, even taking 40 snaps as a Wildcat quarterback.
With the Lions last year, Johnson used two or more tight ends on the field 35% of the time, the third-most in the NFL. Having two capable tight ends isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.”
Mock draft: Predicting the Bears' pick — and the rest of the top 10
With the No. 10 overall pick on April 24, the Bears could justify picking a prospect who plays offensive or defensive line, tight end, running back or even cornerback.
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The segment in the middle where Poles talks is must listen stuff IMO. Poles actually goes into Caleb’s body language.
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He’ll be 31 and I think they go in a different direction. We don’t know how he’ll come back after this injury too.
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Perfect timing considering the DT convo here.
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Sooooooo you're saying young players do get better each year until they reach their ceiling? LOL
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He'll be here this year but quite likely he'll be gone after that. Add in old man Grady and DT is a sneaky big need for us.
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Also skeptical on the shelf life is on a NT whose best trait is high motor. Dont think the '23/'24 version of Billings can last long into his 30s. Thats a big draw to grab a guy like Kenneth Grant for me if they can talk someone in the late teens/early 20s to trade up to 10.
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Ben Devine is a hack who pretends to have sources.
(NVM. I see he’s regurgitating Matt Miller)
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Don't think Stewart got any D.Hunter comps, people were just finding guys who didn't have high sacks rates in college but went on to become big time sack artists in the NFL and Hunter was one of those. I'm the one who first brought up Hunter when someone asked that question and i know i in no way made it a comp that Stewart would become Hunter. Now maybe i missed someone else making that comp because i don't go through every thread or post.
I guess that still is a comp but not in the way you were making it sound. LOL
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He’s the best player on the DL, I agree we don’t know how he will come back but the idea to move on from him because he’s 31 is kinda wild
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I tried to see if Miller tweeted it and didn't see it, so I reluctantly just ran with the Devine tweet. I assume it's on youtube somewhere.