*OFFICIAL* Offseason Rumors, Signings, and Shenanigans

[ThatGuyRyan]

No it does matter as it is relevant info as to whether he has gotten the help or not.

You are stupidly saying he should get help then acting like doing so means he can never play football again.



Yes and I am saying your opinion is ignorant. Ignorant of the facts of the situation and ignorant of how mental health issues play out.

Not all opinions are well thought out. Yours isn't.

It's pretty simple, did he quit mid season ? Y/N
Does it matter why ? Y/N
Would I TRADE for him regardless of the answer to #2 ? Y/N

Y, N, N. /discussion.

 

[Anytime23]

I mean, if that's your hardest punch, what a pussy way to go out.

/Iggy

I like talking Bears, not getting wrapped up in other people's bitch fests.

You lie about having people on ignore so you can conveniently ignore every good point someone makes. As soft a move as i've ever seen.

 

[remydat]

It's pretty simple, did he quit mid season ? Y/N
Does it matter why ? Y/N
Would I TRADE for him regardless of the answer to #2 ? Y/N

Y, N, N. /discussion.

Nothing in the above changes the fact your decision is based on ignorance.

It is one thing to say as others have that you dont want to trade because we have limited draft capital but you are hanging your hat on a situation you know nothing about ie that you are ignorant of.

Look you are entitled to be ignorant. I am just telling you that by definition you are being ignorant.

 

[Canth]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490688531089346563

Matt Eberflus isn’t an offensive coach. But he does have an offensive philosophy, believe it or not. The new Bears coach wasn’t born yesterday, and he didn’t spend the last 15 years with horse blinders on—so he knew all along, coming up as a defensive coach, how hard it would be for him to find the sort of opportunity Chicago just gave him.

“You have eight jobs open, six of them are going to offensive guys, that’s already a given,” Eberflus said over the phone on Saturday. “So you have to be spot on when you’re doing your interviews to make sure that you have a plan in place for the offense. And I wouldn’t say that’s No. 1; I would say that’s No. 2. Because what’s really going to be the one that gets you the job is the type of man you are and the type of leader you are.”

Eberflus, of course, went into No. 1 with Bears ownership over the last month, explaining to them how any piece of the team would fit with the next, how he wanted to develop coaches through the program and all of that. But, sure, he knew that he had to sell the people on the other side of the table on his vision for an offense, one that someone else would be calling, and for second-year quarterback Justin Fields.

His vision was clear when we talked.

“I want an offense that’s going to be attacking, that stretches the defense horizontally and vertically, and I want them to be willing to have the ability to punch the defense right where it counts and to be able to move the ball down the field,” he said. “I want the attitude and the style to be right. Are we going to talk about route concepts that hurt defenses, and run schemes that hurt the defense? Yeah, that’s important. But the way in which you play is more important, and that’s what I want in the offense.”

And the triggerman is important too, which is why Eberflus spent an hour and a-half with Fields on his first day on the job. He explained his vision to make Fields as efficient as he can be, and to build an offense around, and for, the former first-round pick.

“I just see a guy that’s ready to develop. He’s so ready to develop and wants to be sponge,” said Eberflus. “We’ve talked about giving him an education on the defensive side in terms of coverages as well as the offensive side in terms of schemes. He’s ready to develop and excited to get going. Certainly, he has the skill set to move the ball with his legs, and we’re also looking at the concept of him being able to get the ball out of his hands, take what the defense gives you, and not only the underneath throws, but also the deep throw.”

Which is to say, yes, even though Eberflus is a defensive coach, he not only knows how important Fields’s development will be, he’s also not afraid to get in the weeds of it.

Here are a few more things from our conversation …

• The Bears also immediately landed Packers pass-game coordinator Luke Getsy, then got most of Eberflus’s defensive infrastructure, led by new DC Alan Williams, out of Indy. And that’s a pretty good sign for how things are getting off the ground. “I pulled out my list that I had when I interviewed, and I’m looking at it and I’m going, ‘Jeez, I wanted to be right around 65 to 70%, and if I could get those guys, I’m doing pretty good,’” Eberflus said. “I told those guys in the interview, I said, ‘Yeah, I think I can give you a little close to that.’ And things happen and guys decide for different reasons what they want to do. But we have a lot of good relationships with these coaches, and they’re all like-minded.” Safe to say the Bears did better than 65 to 70%? “Yes,” Eberflus said, “it’s safe to say that.”

• New GM Ryan Poles and Eberflus, who share an agent, were introduced a couple of years back through mutual friends—the kind of matchmaking that commonly happens with rising young execs and coaches—and it didn’t take long for the two to realize something was there. The first conversation lasted over an hour. They talked about style of play and preferences in personnel, and they resolved to keep in touch afterward. “I was just like, ‘Man, that was really good.’ And he said the same thing after talking to him later,” Eberflus said. “And we just kept our conversations going and the relationship going, and sure enough, this year during this cycle, he was up for a bunch of jobs, I was up for a couple jobs and it just worked out.”

Eberflus always says what’s on the tape is a coach’s résumé—it’s one way he’s worked out his staff hires with guys like Getsy whom he hasn’t worked with before. All the same, he correlated Chiefs tape with conversations he and Poles had, and there was a lot he wound up liking. “What I see in terms of their length, the explosive athletic ability, the speed is all over the tape when you watch those guys,” Eberflus said. “And I just love the way they have put together that roster. … The 80-20 rule, to me it’s 80% skill and talent you have on the field, and then the 20% is the other part, the coaching, the scheme, the culture, how we play, the physical style, all that. But really, 80% of it’s the players. This is the NFL. It’s about having the best players you can on the field, and that’s really what Ryan and his group are going to do, is bring those guys in.”

Doing that would build on an already good start for the new Bears brain trust, which was manifested in all the staff hires Poles and Eberflus made. And from there, yup, getting the quarterback going would be a pretty good next step.

What an interesting read on Eberflus. I found it interesting that he was just hoping to get 65%-70% of his coaching list - speaks to the realities and what I have seen elsewhere. It's not just having a list, but back-up plans to the back-up plans for filling out the staff.

I also found the extra detail in how long Poles and Eberflus have talked to each other and kept it touch a fascinating bit of insight to how these prospective coaches and GM's get to know each other.

Also, I found the 80/20 rule on point. You can have the best scheme in the world and it won't matter if you don't have the players to execute it.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Nothing in the above changes the fact your decision is based on ignorance.

It is one thing to say as others have that you dont want to trade because we have limited draft capital but you are hanging your hat on a situation you know nothing about ie that you are ignorant of.

Look you are entitled to be ignorant. I am just telling you that by definition you are being ignorant.

lol I don't need you to tell me shit. He quit on his team, I really don't care why that is an immediate turn off (to me) regardless of draft capital.

 

[remydat]

lol I don't need you to tell me shit. He quit on his team, I really don't care why that is an immediate turn off (to me) regardless of draft capital.

Ok revel in your ignorance sir. Good talk!

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Ok revel in your ignorance sir. Good talk!

You too <3

 

[remydat]

You too <3

On the contrary. I accept I am ignorant of the situation hence why I would want to find out what happened prior to deciding whether to pursue him or not.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Ok revel in your ignorance sir. Good talk!

Remy I've never known you to just end a conversation so quick

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

On the contrary. I accept I am ignorant of the situation hence why I would want to find out what happened prior to deciding whether to pursue him or not.

cool story.

 

[remydat]

Remy I've never known you to just end a conversation so quick

Chinese New Year's resolution. Once people accept they are being ignorant or stupid then move on.

 

[Dejo]

What an interesting read on Eberflus. I found it interesting that he was just hoping to get 65%-70% of his coaching list - speaks to the realities and what I have seen elsewhere. It's not just having a list, but back-up plans to the back-up plans for filling out the staff.

I also found the extra detail in how long Poles and Eberflus have talked to each other and kept it touch a fascinating bit of insight to how these prospective coaches and GM's get to know each other.

Also, I found the 80/20 rule on point. You can have the best scheme in the world and it won't matter if you don't have the players to execute it.

Agree with you. This was a good real overall and I think this should help us understand how pre-set a ton of decisions are. You get X GM, your pool of HC are Y

 

[Chicago4Life]

Guy had mental health issues. The brain is a muscle like any other body. You wouldn't say a guy was a quitter if he had a torn ACL. Would you rather he killed himself due to depression and/or anxiety? I do hear what you're saying about him being unreliable right now. That's true, but don't have such a shitty attitude about mental health. I hope he gets the help he needs and can play again. A lot of guys get brain injuries playing football. It's a tough sport. You see fallout much like in the military. Hard to come back from a place where you are killing people and then assimilate. Hard to get on the field with a violent mindset and then turn it off.

i think his problem also was related to something happening in atlanta, if it were just mental health, he could have gone back to the falcons....instead the letter was that the falcons would be trading him. If the bears are able to give up a day 3 pick for his services its a good deal, the guy is on his 5th yr option and so if he cant get back to that stud form you walk away but if he can make it back then you have a stud to extend and pair with mooney.

 

[Dejo]

Got a little Mike Glennon neck vibe to him.

? status reached for him

 

[remydat]

? status reached for him

You mean ? status. Get it right.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490726918374760449

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490718075104022531

 

[remydat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490726918374760449

As a coach maybe. As a GM no. He completely fucked that team.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490715662775431174

 

[Dejo]

As a coach maybe. As a GM no. He completely fucked that team.

You could argue he had a large hand in the downturn of talent. Ton of headscratchers there.

That front office though and ownership is a big woof