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greenWas a joke @Biscuitboy that's what the JK meant, just kidding. I couldn't remember what color the sarcastic font was LOL
greenWas a joke @Biscuitboy that's what the JK meant, just kidding. I couldn't remember what color the sarcastic font was LOL
A head coach also needs to be able to put together a good staff.This is what I care about:
A head coach needs to be a leader and administrator first, detail guy on a given side of the ball second (or maybe 3rd). Sounds like Eberflus has some of that in him based on his reputation but we'll find out.
Right, which would probably be the second most important thing for him. Perhaps:A head coach also needs to be able to put together a good staff.
I think overall he did a good job. I give the overall hirings in general, from GM to HC on down a solid B, with upside to be an A. But that's just me. What I like is that Flus immediately started addressing the issues that Nagy/Pace seemed to ignore for years, and has put his full support behind Fields.A head coach also needs to be able to put together a good staff.
The NFL needs to foster more Black candidates going into coaching. Thats really the long and short of it.About the ROONEY RULE:
If we're not going to penalize for not hiring Black coaches, how about we reward FOR minority hires? XX number/level of coaches, there is a value assigned, based on the number/level of the coach, and that allows you either (1.) extra draft picks (2.) an expanded cap. The racist owners are just going to find loopholes and exploit the Rooney rule, bring in token interviews, like Texas just did. The teams that actually address it. Maybe if you have a Black GM/MC you get an extra 1st round pick and $5 million extra in cap. And then that scales down for other minority coaches, with lower picks. Thoughts?
I disagree, and Leftwich and Bieniemy would concur.The NFL needs to foster more Black candidates going into coaching. Thats really the long and short of it.
Lovie spoke on this the other day. They need more Black players who want to get into coaching.
At the NFL level to start and in college.
The problem isn't the lack of teams hiring black coaches as HC, its the amount of viable candidates they have to choose from.
Bieniemy has some issues that people may not believe he is ready.I disagree, and Leftwich and Bieniemy would concur.
New study: Minority coaches still fare worse during NFL hiring process
African Americans and other minorities don’t have the same opportunities as white people to become head coaches in the NFL or get rehired after leaving a head c…theundefeated.com
"Because of the public outcry, high-powered civil rights attorneys Johnnie Cohran and Cyrus Mehri released a study entitled Black Coaches in the National Football League: Superior Performance, Inferior Opportunities, revealing that Black head coaches, even with higher winning percentages of games played, were less likely to be hired and more likely to be fired than their white counterparts. Not only do Black coaches have a slim chance to be hired but a recent study has shown that Black coaches are rarely considered again as viable candidates once they have been released from other assignments, unlike their white contemporaries who are often rehired and kept their jobs even with mediocre results."
Eight Reasons Why the NFL Should Kill the Rooney Rule & Update Its Policy On Hiring Black Coaches
In 2003, The Rooney Rule was put in place to ensure more people of color were in head coaching positions. The rule didn't work. Here's why.www.okayplayer.com
We do need to change the Rooney Rule as well.
That why teams are awarded two 3rd round picks if a minority is hired away from them to be a GM or HC. It is incentive to promote minorities to higher ranking positions within your organization, as that’s the only way you get rewarded.About the ROONEY RULE:
If we're not going to penalize for not hiring Black coaches, how about we reward FOR minority hires? XX number/level of coaches, there is a value assigned, based on the number/level of the coach, and that allows you either (1.) extra draft picks (2.) an expanded cap. The racist owners are just going to find loopholes and exploit the Rooney rule, bring in token interviews, like Texas just did. The teams that actually address it. Maybe if you have a Black GM/MC you get an extra 1st round pick and $5 million extra in cap. And then that scales down for other minority coaches, with lower picks. Thoughts?
Oh cool, I didn't know that. Thanks. That's good. Maybe something for lower-level coaches as well? A fifth or seventh for every minority coach on the roster. IDK. Just spitballing here.That why teams are awarded two 3rd round picks if a minority is hired away from them to be a GM or HC. It is incentive to promote minorities to higher ranking positions within your organization, as that’s the only way you get rewarded.
Well, there are few ways of looking that:Bieniemy has some issues that people may not believe he is ready.
Leftwich will be a HC. But he pulled out of consideration because he didn't want to work with Baalke as the rumor goes.
You are also highlighting my exact point of not enough viable candidates.
Well, Fields has only been here for one year, so I'm not sure how Nagy/Pace ignored that for years...I think overall he did a good job. I give the overall hirings in general, from GM to HC on down a solid B, with upside to be an A. But that's just me. What I like is that Flus immediately started addressing the issues that Nagy/Pace seemed to ignore for years, and has put his full support behind Fields.
I am going off what Lovie Smith said, and I think he is more connected than us.Well, there are few ways of looking that:
In this country, Black Americans make up for 12% of the population. As far as HEAD coaches, last I checked it was about 6% of the NFL. Almost 60% of the players are Black. IDK. Numbers are low. I don't know if I can find statistics on coaches that are not head coaches, or if these stats include AC, DLC, OLC, QBC, etc.
- There actually are a lot of viable candidates, but they aren't being hired for various reasons, sometimes, due to race.
- There are NOT enough viable candidates because teams aren't hiring them at lower levels, teaching them, and then promoting them from within.
- There isn't enough interest, talent, intellect, experience in general for Black men in and around the league. I don't tend to believe this one.
One season, multiple years. Drafted him one year, season extended into 2021. Mostly that they didn't seem to have a plan, didn't adjust, didn't alter it to the players but instead were very rigid about executing an OFF no matter what.Well, Fields has only been here for one year, so I'm not sure how Nagy/Pace ignored that for years...
I think it's an OK staff, with my favorite hire being the OC Getsy. However, I think the DC Williams hire is Mel Tucker level bad.
Kinnard and Metchie but 1000% Kinnard. He's a wrecking Machine.
Kerby Joseph was pretty good last year. Wouldn't mind the Bears drafting him
Wait! Are they talking about that McGowan guy that used to play for the Bears???
Well, there are few ways of looking that:
In this country, Black Americans make up for 12% of the population. As far as HEAD coaches, last I checked it was about 6% of the NFL. Almost 60% of the players are Black. IDK. Numbers are low. I don't know if I can find statistics on coaches that are not head coaches, or if these stats include AC, DLC, OLC, QBC, etc.
- There actually are a lot of viable candidates, but they aren't being hired for various reasons, sometimes, due to race.
- There are NOT enough viable candidates because teams aren't hiring them at lower levels, teaching them, and then promoting them from within.
- There isn't enough interest, talent, intellect, experience in general for Black men in and around the league. I don't tend to believe this one.
Bieniemy has some issues that people may not believe he is ready.
Leftwich will be a HC. But he pulled out of consideration because he didn't want to work with Baalke as the rumor goes.
You are also highlighting my exact point of not enough viable candidates.
I hear you, but what do you do about racism in the NFL then? We have to address the issue in some way.d
The NFL hires head coaches that are black as shown throughout time. In the past 15 years, what candidates should have been hired that were not hired? Who got passed over because they were black? Good candidates get opportunities. I am still of the belief that this last cycle has just had uninspiring choices.
Which would indicate #2, but the statistics should that blacks are have seen substantial increase in representation at all levels.
I think this is issue is quite moot because the issue is not that we're making progress, but rather that people are impatient. The pool of black NFL coaches has increased significantly. As they continue to grow and get experience, so will the desire to bring them in for higher positions.
With that said, I do not know what ratio people are truly looking to achieve. I do not think there should be a definitive number associated with this issue. I think people are disappointed with the floor and just do not want to accept that the current list of candidates is bad, mediocre, or uninspiring.
I bet if Leftwich has a great year without Brady, he will get a job. If Tampa regresses significantly without Brady, then I imagine some people will suggest that BL needs more time to keep progressing.