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-Toronto Raptors: I feel very strongly that the Raptors are going to be a very solid team next year. Dwane Casey emphasizes defense and has helped turn Andrea Bargnani from a liability on defense into a great pick-and-roll defender (though he is still a terrible rebounder for a 7-footer). The Raptors have a double-headed PG machine with Kyle Lowry (border-line top 10 PG) and Jose Calderon. They now added Landry Fields who can guard either wing position and rebound very well. They also might be the deepest team in the league next year:

C- Jonas Valančiūnas (Euro rookie stand-out).
----Ed Davis.
----Aaron Gray.
PF- Andrea Bargnani (finally in his natural position).
----Amir Johnson.
SF- Landry Fields.
-----James Johnson (much less raw from his Bulls' days).
-----Kleiza.
SG- DeRozan (another 15+ points per-gm).
-----Terrence Ross.
PG- Lowry.
-----Jose Calderon.

-Milwaukee Bucks: They gained Dalembert and re-signed Ersan Ilyasova this off-season. And it will be the first full season that Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings will play a full season together. Scott Skiles does like to run a disciplined half-court offense so it'll be interesting to see if he can tame or even adapt to this two young guards who like to push in transition.

-Cleveland Cavaliers: Tristan Thompson (PF with all-star potential), Tyler Zeller (C), and Anderson Varejao (C/PF) will be a nice three-man rotation to have on their front-line. I know Omri Casspi is a half-way decent all-around player and this Waiters guy is someone they say might be able to help the Cavs' lowly offense.

-Washington Wizards: Andray Blatche is the only knucklehead left in that locker room for the most part. They now have a mean C duo of Nene and Okafor (Nene can play a little PF as well). Trevor Ariza provides some stability in the middle of their line-up and Bradley Beal looks like a guy who can provide floor spacing and play some defense.

-Golden State Warriors: Andrew Bogut staying healthy is key but he and David Lee are a very capable starting front-court duo. Klay Thompson and Harrison Barnes are a couple of wings with a lot of potential (with Richard Jefferson as some insurance), and Stephen Curry is their PG (and a border-line top 10 one).

-Minnesota Timberwolves: They are trying to get Batum right now. But, even if they don't, they still have Derrick Williams who hasn't really gotten his chance yet to shine (and added Chase Budinger for depth). Nikola Pekovic is a very underrated starting center in the league and (even with Rubio out to start the season) they still have J.J. Barea (who was injured most of last season) and Luke Ridnour. Brandon Roy is an addition I am not too crazy about but it is low-risk/high-reward because the T-Wolves have been notoriously bad at the shooting guard position for a long time now.

-New Orleans Hornets: (Not really a surprise in the sense that they are talked about a lot. I just feel that Monty Williams is bound to make this a competitive team after seeing what he did with that group of scrubs last year.)
 

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For some reason I don't see the Raptors or Timberwolves going anywhere. And I highly doubt Toronto will be the deepest team in the league.

NO will definitely be better, as will Washington. Other than that, I don't really see a huge surprise from any team. I suppose it's possible that Kyrie might turn into a super stud and lead the Cavs Derrick Rose style, but other than that...meh.
 

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I think the every team in the East not named the Heat (50+ wins), Magic and Bobcats (sub-20 wins) will all finish between 30-45 wins. The Bulls (at best) will have 45 wins and probably won't do worse than 35 wins even worst-case.

The NBA will be very middle heavy in 2012-13.
 

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I think the every team in the East not named the Heat (50+ wins), Magic and Bobcats (sub-20 wins) will all finish between 30-45 wins. The Bulls (at best) will have 45 wins and probably won't do worse than 35 wins even worst-case.

The NBA will be very middle heavy in 2012-13.
Hasn't the NBA always been middle heavy? The West has had at least 2 teams over .500 not make the playoffs year after year. Between the top 11 teams in the West and the top 5 or 6 in the East, does that not fit pretty much a similar description (perhaps with higher win totals that 45 and 35...probably more like 50 and 40).
 

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For some reason I don't see the Raptors or Timberwolves going anywhere.

I think Minnesota (healthy and at their potential) could do some damage in the playoffs. What if Derrick Williams explodes and turns into a dominant scorer at the 3-spot? And we all know about Ricky Rubio's potential.

Rick Adelman is a great offensive coach and he has some nice parts to work with.

Nikola Pekovic. Darko Milicic.
Kevin Love.
Derrick Williams. Chase Budinger. (Nicholas Batum?).
Brandon Roy. Wesley Johnson.
Rubio. Luke Ridnour. J.J. Barea.
 

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I think Minnesota (healthy and at their potential) could do some damage in the playoffs. What if Derrick Williams explodes and turns into a dominant scorer at the 3-spot? And we all know about Ricky Rubio's potential.

Rick Adelman is a great offensive coach and he has some nice parts to work with.

Nikola Pekovic. Darko Milicic.
Kevin Love.
Derrick Williams. Chase Budinger. (Nicholas Batum?).
Brandon Roy. Wesley Johnson.
Rubio. Luke Ridnour. J.J. Barea.
:rofl:

Yeah I'll agree they have some nice pieces offensively, but they're still severely lacking defensively. Ultimately I see that being their downfall. Perhaps I wouldn't consider them a surprise personally because I saw how well they played with just having Rubio and Love together. Imo they were already a team like others in the West that if they were in the East could easily be the 5 or 6 seed. Them being slightly higher wouldn't surprise me a whole lot. :dunno:
 

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Hasn't the NBA always been middle heavy? The West has had at least 2 teams over .500 not make the playoffs year after year. Between the top 11 teams in the West and the top 5 or 6 in the East, does that not fit pretty much a similar description (perhaps with higher win totals that 45 and 35...probably more like 50 and 40).

MLB is more middle-heavy than the NBA.

Take last year for instance; 19 teams finished with a .600+ or sub-.400 winning percentage.

In the 2013 season, I expect there to only be a few teams to have a .600+ winning percentage (Miami, Lakers, Oklahoma City) and a sub-.400 percentage (Charlotte, Orlando, Phoenix, and maybe... Sacramento, Houston, and Portland.)

A lot of bad teams have improved since last season.
 

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Yeah I'll agree they have some nice pieces offensively, but they're still severely lacking defensively. Ultimately I see that being their downfall. Perhaps I wouldn't consider them a surprise personally because I saw how well they played with just having Rubio and Love together. Imo they were already a team like others in the West that if they were in the East could easily be the 5 or 6 seed. Them being slightly higher wouldn't surprise me a whole lot. :dunno:

I agree that defensively they aren't well-equiped. Rubio seems like he is a good defender but their best two defensive players are terrible at everything else (Milicic and Anthony Randolph). So it will be tough. We're going to need to see if Pekovic or Love can step up.
 

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MLB is more middle-heavy than the NBA.

Take last year for instance; 19 teams finished with a .600+ or sub-.400 winning percentage.

In the 2013 season, I expect there to only be a few teams to have a .600+ winning percentage (Miami, Lakers, Oklahoma City) and a sub-.400 percentage (Charlotte, Orlando, Phoenix, and maybe... Sacramento, Houston, and Portland.)

A lot of bad teams have improved since last season.
I don't see how that's any different than past years except the teams are shuffling around. So Portland becomes sub .400...Minnesota takes its place. Orlando drops to the bottom of the conference...Washington improves and gets into that in between area between the .400 and .600 teams. :dunno:
 

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adelman is a good offensive coach but has always been known for shortcomings regarding his defensive philosophy

doesn't help he's with a team that doesn't have alot of guys with defensive prowess

that said, with rubio healthy, i could see minnesota making noise in the playoffs

but there is going to be plenty of competition(grizzlies,lakers,spurs,thunder,clippers,nuggets,even the warriors maybe)
 

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I don't see how that's any different than past years except the teams are shuffling around. So Portland becomes sub .400...Minnesota takes its place. Orlando drops to the bottom of the conference...Washington improves and gets into that in between area between the .400 and .600 teams. :dunno:

What makes it different is that seeding and who will make/miss the playoffs will be much harder to predict than previous years, in my opinion.
 

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