OT: Rondo against Bulls vs Magic???

[cool007]

Okay, after watching Rondo against Bulls in the first round, we pretty much knew that he was just playing OUT OF HIS MIND against Bulls.

First, Bulls are a BAD defensive team and Second, they were really focusing on stopping Pierce and Allen by either blitzing them or switching everything. That meant leaving guys like Perkins, Rondo, Big Baby free to roam here and there for offensive boards or put backs and other crap.

Rondo is the one who took SUPER advantage of that. He was getting more offensive boards, with mis-matches everywhere and either he scored himself or passed it to others for an easy score.

Also, he was just flat out shooting the ball well against us and was playing MAJOR - BIG TIME minutes against us. I saw 50-53minutes in Overtime games - meaning he had ton of opportunities to get his triple doubles against us.

Check out his averages:

Vs Bulls: 19.4ppg 9.3rpg 11.6apg 2.7spg 0.4bpg 2.1TOpg 45.4%fg 44.4%3pt

vs Magic: 14.2ppg 9.8rpg 8apg 2.0spg 0.0bpg 3.4TOpg 36.8%fg 36%3pt


His assist numbers are skewed vs Magic coz of 1 BIG TIME assist game when he had 18 but all other games he has been way below avg. He is also not getting as many steals and turning it over a LOT more.

His shooting is abysmal - and has came back down to earth in a HURRY (law of averages?).

Your thoughts?

 

[RPK]

cool007 wrote:

Okay, after watching Rondo against Bulls in the first round, we pretty much knew that he was just playing OUT OF HIS MIND against Bulls.

First, Bulls are a BAD defensive team and Second, they were really focusing on stopping Pierce and Allen by either blitzing them or switching everything. That meant leaving guys like Perkins, Rondo, Big Baby free to roam here and there for offensive boards or put backs and other crap.

Rondo is the one who took SUPER advantage of that. He was getting more offensive boards, with mis-matches everywhere and either he scored himself or passed it to others for an easy score.

Also, he was just flat out shooting the ball well against us and was playing MAJOR - BIG TIME minutes against us. I saw 50-53minutes in Overtime games - meaning he had ton of opportunities to get his triple doubles against us.

Check out his averages:

Vs Bulls: 19.4ppg 9.3rpg 11.6apg 2.7spg 0.4bpg 2.1TOpg 45.4%fg 44.4%3pt

vs Magic: 14.2ppg 9.8rpg 8apg 2.0spg 0.0bpg 3.4TOpg 36.8%fg 36%3pt


His assist numbers are skewed vs Magic coz of 1 BIG TIME assist game when he had 18 but all other games he has been way below avg. He is also not getting as many steals and turning it over a LOT more.

His shooting is abysmal - and has came back down to earth in a HURRY (law of averages?).

Your thoughts?

Well, the Magic are right now a much better defensive team then the Bulls. Rondo gets a majority of his scores and assists on drives to the bucket. He's never been a great spot up shooter. It's definitely a more difficult task with the reigning 'Defensive Player of the Year' patrolling the paint.

 

[dougthonus]

I think it's the law of being defended by Derrick Rose for a full series. When it comes straight down to it, the Bulls didn't have enough good defenders to take on three good guards. We had to leave Rose on someone, that someone was Rondo. That someone destroyed us.

 

[Rerisen]

Though Derrick played terrible defense and enabled Rondo, I think he was boosted even more by our sloppy defense overall and especially our terrible transition defense.

We gave him so many free baskets for doing nothing more than pushing the ball hard up the floor that it was sickening.

We also gave him so many easy baskets in the lane, tip ins, and lay ups off offensive rebounds, that could have been stopped just by boxing out, or altered by a big man rotating over at the the right time. Though the defense was compromised and he might have been able to find a open shooter somewhere, most of the series, we didn't even make him do that but gave him a open lane.

If we defended Rondo the way Boston defended Rose, just played 5 to 8 feet off of him and forcing him to take a jumper or move the ball on, we probably win the series.

 

[RPK]

Rerisen wrote:

Though Derrick played terrible defense and enabled Rondo, I think he was boosted even more by our sloppy defense overall and especially our terrible transition defense.

We gave him so many free baskets for doing nothing more than pushing the ball hard up the floor that it was sickening.

We also gave him so many easy baskets in the lane, tip ins, and lay ups off offensive rebounds, that could have been stopped just by boxing out, or altered by a big man rotating over at the the right time. Though the defense was compromised and he might have been able to find a open shooter somewhere, most of the series, we didn't even make him do that but gave him a open lane.

If we defended Rondo the way Boston defended Rose, just played 5 to 8 feet off of him and forcing him to take a jumper or move the ball on, we probably win the series.

Yeah, and let's not forget how bad the Bulls were at defending the pick and roll all year

 

[TheStig]

Derrick Rose is a bottom 5 defender at his postion. I hope that is the main thing he improves this summer because he was a good defender in college and has the size and athletic ability to be an elite one in the league. Hopefully he starts getting star calls so he can be more aggressive and not get called for fouls.

 

[Dpauley23]

One thing I've noticed about Rose on defense is he always is looking around which causes him trouble and second thing is he doesn't really get seem defense philosophy. I don't know if there is one, but seems like he wants big man to help out but they never do

 

[cool007]

Actually, Rondo beat us more in fast break, offensive rebounds, pick and rolls - more than he did 1-on-1.

Also, being at right place at right time also helped him a lot. On top of that, he WAS MAKING HIS JUMPERS - EVEN 3pt SHOTS.

Last couple of games the series though, we (Rose) played good defense on Rondo IMO.