OT: The Pitcher the Cubs Should Get is.....

[brett05]

Jake Peavy

Clayton Kershaw leads the majors with a quality start percentage of .817 over the past three seasons. Jake Peavy ranks 26th, but that puts him ahead of a number of high-profile peers:
Pitcher QS% since 2012 Overall rank
Jake Peavy .655 26th
Jon Lester .653 27th
Madison Bumgarner .646 30th
Anibal Sanchez .642 32nd
Yu Darvish .639 33rd
Zack Greinke .628 35th
Jeff Samardzija .628 36th
Ervin Santana .613 44th
Matt Cain .610 46th
Mat Latos .605 48th

 

[TL1961]

I'm not the biggest Jake Peavy fan around (OK, I think he's an ass), but that is interesting.

For all the stats and metrics, isn't the % pf games a pitcher pitches well the best reflection of how he gives you a chance to win?

Certainly one can argue the measurement of "quality start" - 3 ER in 6 IP? But this is interesting to see where he ranks compared to some others. It doesn't mean you want him on the mound in the postseason, but he may help you get there.

I could live with Peavy if he and Lester come in the package deal as Peavy has suggested. (Love how he wants to ride Lester's coattails to a payday for himself. )

But I would be happy with that package deal.

P.S. Brett, tell me why discussing a FA pitcher during the offseason is Off Topic.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

Listen, personally I like Peavy. Anyone that gets traded and the first order of business is to pick up the guitar and record a cover of Pancho and Lefty in the clubhouse is alright with me but I watched him last year and despite his numbers I can't figure out why he isn't getting pounded by opposing bats. He doesn't pass the eye test and again why don't other teams see that and they have to eventually right? I don't want him on my team when they do.

 

[brett05]

I'm not the biggest Jake Peavy fan around (OK, I think he's an ass), but that is interesting.

For all the stats and metrics, isn't the % pf games a pitcher pitches well the best reflection of how he gives you a chance to win?

Certainly one can argue the measurement of "quality start" - 3 ER in 6 IP? But this is interesting to see where he ranks compared to some others. It doesn't mean you want him on the mound in the postseason, but he may help you get there.

I could live with Peavy if he and Lester come in the package deal as Peavy has suggested. (Love how he wants to ride Lester's coattails to a payday for himself. )

But I would be happy with that package deal.

P.S. Brett, tell me why discussing a FA pitcher during the offseason is Off Topic.

Uhm...Uhm...

Yeah I got nothing.

 

[DewsSox79]

peavy does nothing to help the cubs in the future if all these specs pan out.


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[chibears55]

Why dont the whitesox get him

 

[brett05]

Why dont the whitesox get him

He's not a number two anymore

 

[Icculus]

Oh he is a number 2, just not a 2nd starter.

 

[chibears55]

He's not a number two anymore

Oh.. So the sox dont need to improve on anyone after sales

You posted those great numbers of his

 

[2323]

Quality start...total misnomer...must have been made up by an agent. 4.50 ERA = quality start...yeah, ok. Lol

 

[JZsportsfan]

Agreed. But he isn't "THE" pitcher the Cubs should get. Getting a guy like Peavy means nothing if he's the only other piece they add. Now adding Lester + Peavy and you are putting the franchise is a position to take the next step toward playoff contention.

 

[brett05]

Oh.. So the sox dont need to improve on anyone after sales

You posted those great numbers of his

Our sp need is a rh #2. The Sox need is not really sp outside of that

 

[brett05]

Quality start...total misnomer...must have been made up by an agent. 4.50 ERA = quality start...yeah, ok. Lol

It is important else the percentages would be much higher of success if it was so easy

 

[DewsSox79]

Oh.. So the sox dont need to improve on anyone after sales

You posted those great numbers of his

sale and quintana. we need a real number 2 to split them up. peavy is a 4th starter. he is also annoying as **** to watch pitch.


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[2323]

It is important else the percentages would be much higher of success if it was so easy

How many times did those pitchers you listed give up less than three runs during their quality starts? One if the flaws here is, a "quality" start doesn't differentiate between a 0.00 Era and a 4.50 Era. And of the 3X % of their other games did Peavy give up a ton of runs vs 4 runs? And what about the other guys you listed?

 

[SilenceS]

Funny thread, why? Peavy has been position himself all offseason to go where ever Jon Lester goes. Why is it funny? Because he is a smart fudger(for you Brett) and he is trying to tie on as a package deal to a team. Read the rumors. Peavy is trying to push Lester where ever they will sign him.

 

[brett05]

How many times did those pitchers you listed give up less than three runs during their quality starts? One if the flaws here is, a "quality" start doesn't differentiate between a 0.00 Era and a 4.50 Era. And of the 3X % of their other games did Peavy give up a ton of runs vs 4 runs? And what about the other guys you listed?

A line has to be drawn somewhere.

But I understand your questions. The info comes from ESPN.

 

[2323]

A line has to be drawn somewhere.

But I understand your questions. The info comes from ESPN.

Yeah, it's an obtuse premise using a stupid, lazy stat. For all we know, in 3X% of the games, the other guys you listed are giving up around 4 runs every game, while Peavy is giving up 10+ every game out of that 3X% population. Furthermore, for all we know the other guys are only giving up 1 during the 6X% of the outings you're referencing, while Peavy is giving up almost exactly 3 every time. Also, for all we know those other guys are going 8 innings while Peavy is gog almost exactly six in the 6X% of games you're referencing.