Other Offseason Possibilities

[Basghetti80]

Most of offseason trade talk has been centered about Bosh, Amare and to a lesser extent Melo. I wanted to throw out some other names and see if you thought there were any possibilities there. Name any others that come to mind.


AK47
Kevin Martin
Elton Brand
Vince Carter
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Joe Johnson

 

[dougthonus]

Basghetti80 wrote:

Most of offseason trade talk has been centered about Bosh, Amare and to a lesser extent Melo. I wanted to throw out some other names and see if you thought there were any possibilities there. Name any others that come to mind.


AK47
Kevin Martin
Elton Brand
Vince Carter
Andrew Bogut
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Joe Johnson

AK47 wouldn't be a good fit for us IMO. He's sort of a tweener PF with a mediocre offense, I think we just keep Tyrus instead.

Kevin Martin won't be available. Jason Levien is now the Kings guy in charge of trades, and he was Martin's former agent and Martin is like his son basically. There's no way that he'd trade Martin, pretty much regardless of what we offered. I mean he might hesitate at a Rose/Martin swap.

Elton Brand is an interesting target. He looks way overpaid now, and Philly would probably do anything to get out of that deal right now. At the same time, that should be a sign that we shouldn't be looking to get into it.

Andrew Bogut would be a great target. I have no idea if the Bucks would trade him or what they'd want back. His contract is large, but it's not crazy large for his ability. Maybe it's big enough they consider moving him though. I would love to deal for him, but I'm not sure what makes sense. Maybe Brad Miller + 1st, but I just have no idea what his health looks like (I know he's out for the year, but don't remember for what) or whether Milwaukee is open.

Pau Gasol/Andrew Bynum? Come on are either of these guys really available? Unless I missed something in Lakerland, I can't imagine them trading either guy. LA is one of the few teams that can afford to pay big money to everyone in this economy.

Dunleavy Jr doesn't seem like a guy who'd fit in, he's a non-dominant SF on a pretty pricey deal. Might as well keep Deng/Salmons whom are both better IMO.

Joe Johnson would be great to obtain, but I don't knwo that Atlanta moves him after finally getting somewhere with him. However his impending FA may force the hand of someone. I'd like to get him for sure if possible.

 

[Basghetti80]

Brand would be interesting but with that Philly team struggling fitting him into their up tempo offense I wonder if it would be different here. Bogut is an excellent fit and taking a chance on him would make more sense than Kaman because of his passing ability, we see how much impact Miller has in that regard. I only mentioned Gasol or Bynum because I don't think the Lakers win the title this year and Gasol looks much better at C than PF and perhaps Lakers would get impatient with Bynum and use him to improve team to try and get Kobe that ring. I know they Hinrich and either of our young bigs plus picks for Bynum and filler might be interesting. Admittedly that is a huge longshot. Bogut is probably realistic considering our expirings and an ability to send Milwaukee an extra pick. Milwaukee needs to cut some salary. Joe Johnson is someone I would love but not sure what it would take. Salmons, Noah, James and the #16 for Johnson and then use the Thabo pick on a big like Jerome Jordan. Don't know if that is even enough though. Bogut is probably the best non Bosh/Amare summer.


Rose,Hinrich
Salmons
Deng, late 1st rd pick
Tyrus,Timmy
Bogut,Noah

 

[dougthonus]

Basghetti80 wrote:

Brand would be interesting but with that Philly team struggling fitting him into their up tempo offense I wonder if it would be different here. Bogut is an excellent fit and taking a chance on him would make more sense than Kaman because of his passing ability, we see how much impact Miller has in that regard. I only mentioned Gasol or Bynum because I don't think the Lakers win the title this year and Gasol looks much better at C than PF and perhaps Lakers would get impatient with Bynum and use him to improve team to try and get Kobe that ring. I know they Hinrich and either of our young bigs plus picks for Bynum and filler might be interesting. Admittedly that is a huge longshot. Bogut is probably realistic considering our expirings and an ability to send Milwaukee an extra pick. Milwaukee needs to cut some salary. Joe Johnson is someone I would love but not sure what it would take. Salmons, Noah, James and the #16 for Johnson and then use the Thabo pick on a big like Jerome Jordan. Don't know if that is even enough though. Bogut is probably the best non Bosh/Amare summer.


Rose,Hinrich
Salmons
Deng, late 1st rd pick
Tyrus,Timmy
Bogut,Noah

That's a lot to give up for Johnson given that he's a UFA the following year, so you'd need to throw in an extension.

I would love to trade for Bogut if we can get something reasonable done, but I don't know if that will be possible or not.

 

[Kush77]

I was all for the Bulls trying to get Brand last year. Now I don't know, the contract, he's been hurt for 2 straight years, he has to be going on 30 now right?

 

[dougthonus]

Side note:

Would you do Brad Miller for Elton Brand this summer?

Brand seems like an upgrade, but man his contract is massive now. He just turned 30 this month.

 

[Kush77]

dougthonus wrote:

Side note:

Would you do Brad Miller for Elton Brand this summer?

Brand seems like an upgrade, but man his contract is massive now. He just turned 30 this month.

I would. But I'm the guy who wants to Bulls to spend, spend, spend.

Knowing how the Bulls would really operate, I would say no.

 

[Dpauley23]

I don't want Brand. Your basically saying this is our second star next to Drose for the next 5 years. Plus you would have the 2 worst contracts in the NBA

 

[Kush77]

Dpauley23 wrote:

I don't want Brand. Your basically saying this is our second star next to Drose for the next 5 years. Plus you would have the 2 worst contracts in the NBA

That is true, you would have Brand (injured 2 years in a row), and Deng (always hurt). It would be like depending on Prior and Wood with the Cubs. You're right, that would be bad.

 

[Dpauley23]

Don't want to be negative or anything, but I could actually see Drose getting nagging injuries like Dwade

 

[Bullsman24]

the difference is i think that d-wade throws around his body, and d-rose tries to project his body, resulting in less foul calls.

 

[dougthonus]

Dpauley23 wrote:

Don't want to be negative or anything, but I could actually see Drose getting nagging injuries like Dwade

So far Rose has been the type to drive to avoid contact rather than generate it. That's been a downside in that he isn't getting foul calls, but it's an upside in injury protection.

 

[Basghetti80]

Piggybacking the Brand idea...

Deng, Tyrus, James, #16 for Brand, Young


Miller or Lou Williams
Iggy,Green
Deng
Tyrus,Speights
Dalembert,Smith

Plus two first rounders in 09


Rose,Hinrich
Salmons
Young
Brand
Noah,Miller

 

[Newskoolbulls]

AK47: Owed to much money for very little production offensive wise
Kevin Martin: injury problems plus his team has been on of the leagues worst
Elton Brand: Owed a good 50 mil and coming off his second injury riddled season
Vince Carter: 32 years old and his deal is not 2010 friendly
Andrew Bogut: Seems to be a complainer and another injury riddled player
Pau Gasol: Not availble
Andrew Bynum: see above
Mike Dunleavy Jr.: Why do we need another over priced 3?
Joe Johnson: He will be availble in 2010 but will be looking at 80 million and I doubt Bulls pay that.

 

[Dpauley23]

Kevin Martin been injured for one season how is that injury proned? Kevin Martin is probably top ten at how he plays and his contract

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Ellis and Crawford will be available this offseason for sure, I have no interest in either one.

 

[dougthonus]

Basghetti80 wrote:

Piggybacking the Brand idea...

Deng, Tyrus, James, #16 for Brand, Young

You'd have to really like Young a lot to do that trade IMO.

Deng's got to be looked at as more valuable than Brand at this point. Even with his contract I'm not sure if he's owed more than Brand, and he's younger and has a chance to rebound whereas Brand is more likely to get worse.

Tyrus is awfully valuable, James contract is really valuable due to insurance and a pick for that?

I wouldn't touch that one.

 

[kadeworld]

I agree with Doug, that trade doesn't look right to me.
But it may be because I don't want Brand anywhere near the Bulls now...

 

[Ralphb07]

I really don't want any moves unless it's for Bosh or Amare this summer. If we can't land a star big I wanna roll the dice with what we got.

 

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