Pre-Combine Mock Offseason (Haul Cult Edition)

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InB4 Caleb, Blah blah blah...

Cuts: Travis Homer - Always injured, highest paid RB on the team - Save $2M
Dominique Robinson - he's had plenty of opportunity and shown nothing. Save $1M

Re-sign : Jaylon Johnson
5y -$18.5M AAV - (incentives added to allow him additional $2M AAV). The secondary was getting torched without him last season, he is still improving, and he has the character and leadership of a player you want on the team.


Marcedes Lewis 1y - $2M
Patrick Scales - 3y - $1.25M AAV
Josh Blackwell - 2y - $1.5M AAV


Free Agency:

FS Antoine Winfield Jr.


5y - $19.5M AAV - I love Brisker but he is 50/50 to get injured on every big hit. Adding Winfield Jr can lead to a Legion of Boom 2.0 caliber secondary.

DE Jonathan Greenard


4y - $15M AAV - Still only 26 and coming off of a 12.5 sack season, the Bears add an ascending pass rusher that doesn't break the bank and has a strong work ethic and character.

WR - Curtis Samuel


3y - $11M AAV - The Bears find a Mooney replacement standing 5'11 196lb, who ran a 4.31 in the 40 & 37" vert. Career catch % is 65%, he is besties with DJ and he also happens to be an Ohio St. alumni.


DRAFT...

Trade #1:


I decided to keep it reasonable, for two second rounders and next year's 1st the Bears sacrifice the rights to King Caleb.

Trade #2:

The Bears move back into the 1st round by sacrificing next year's second and 3rd rounder to a team strapped in cap space that will consider adding more young players.

HAUL:


Poles adds two elite weapons MHJ and Bowers on offense in the first round, he also trades up to give Flus the engine to his defense. The trenches are further enforced with a highly rated young center and a LT prospect that has a high ceiling to push Braxton.

Blake Corum is a DAWG and his power and low center of gravity is the solution to short yardage and goal to go situations. Zack Zinter is the future replacement for whichever current OG on the team that can't stay out of the medical tent.

Roster:
QB - Fields, Bagent

WR - Moore, Harrison, Samuel, Scott, Jones

TE - Kmet, Bowers, Lewis

RB - Corum, Johnson, Herbert
FB - Blasingame

LT Jones, Foster
LG Jenkins, Zinter
C Van Pran, Kramer
RG Davis, Carter
RT Williams, Collins

CB - Johnson, Stevenson, Gordon, Smith, Blackwell, Jones

FS/SS - Winfield Jr, Brisker, Hicks

DT - Newton, Dexter, Billings, Pickens

DE - Sweat, Greenard, Walker, Khareem

LB - Edwards, Edmunds, Sanborn, Sewell

LS Scales
P Gill
K Santos

 

[monkforasia]

How do u get Winfield when he's going to get tagged.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Jaylon isnt taking 18.5 either.

List is already in flames

 

[clenbuterol_clint]

The Bears are now at least 8 million over the cap and locked in to another giant safety deal and the starting center is the third best prospect in the draft as a rookie. Perfect!

 

[Xplosive]

How do u get Winfield when he's going to get tagged.

They can't tag him AND Mike Evans, plus they are cash strapped, plus they want to keep and pay Baker Mayfield.... Someone has to go.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

They can't tag him AND Mike Evans, plus they are cash strapped, plus they want to keep and pay Baker Mayfield.... Someone has to go.

Buccaneers' Antoine Winfield Jr. receives franchise tag after All-Pro season, per report

Tampa Bay is reportedly keeping one of its best

www.cbssports.com

 

[Xplosive]

Jaylon isnt taking 18.5 either.

List is already in flames

Ok his franchise number is $19M for one year, but if they offer 5yr $18.5M plus incentives to make more and you claim he won't bite...??

If he doesn't tag and move on.

 

[greg23]

Jaylon Johnson ain't taking your crappy offer

Wash ain't giving up 2 1sts and 2 2nds to move up a spot

And none of this matters....the bears ain't keeping Fields

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Ok his franchise number is $19M for one year, but if they offer 5yr $18.5M plus incentives to make more and you claim he won't bite...??

If he doesn't tag and move on.

Jaire is at 21 and Jaylon wants to reset the market. I'd be surprised if he took 18.5

 

[dentfan]

InB4 Caleb, Blah blah blah...

Cuts: Travis Homer - Always injured, highest paid RB on the team - Save $2M
Dominique Robinson - he's had plenty of opportunity and shown nothing. Save $1M

Re-sign : Jaylon Johnson
View attachment 351615y -$18.5M AAV - (incentives added to allow him additional $2M AAV). The secondary was getting torched without him last season, he is still improving, and he has the character and leadership of a player you want on the team.


Marcedes Lewis 1y - $2M
Patrick Scales - 3y - $1.25M AAV
Josh Blackwell - 2y - $1.5M AAV


Free Agency:

FS Antoine Winfield Jr.
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5y - $19.5M AAV - I love Brisker but he is 50/50 to get injured on every big hit. Adding Winfield Jr can lead to a Legion of Boom 2.0 caliber secondary.

DE Jonathan Greenard
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4y - $15M AAV - Still only 26 and coming off of a 12.5 sack season, the Bears add an ascending pass rusher that doesn't break the bank and has a strong work ethic and character.

WR - Curtis Samuel
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3y - $11M AAV - The Bears find a Mooney replacement standing 5'11 196lb, who ran a 4.31 in the 40 & 37" vert. Career catch % is 65%, he is besties with DJ and he also happens to be an Ohio St. alumni.


DRAFT...

Trade #1:
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I decided to keep it reasonable, for two second rounders and next year's 1st the Bears sacrifice the rights to King Caleb.

Trade #2:
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The Bears move back into the 1st round by sacrificing next year's second and 3rd rounder to a team strapped in cap space that will consider adding more young players.

HAUL:
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Poles adds two elite weapons MHJ and Bowers on offense in the first round, he also trades up to give Flus the engine to his defense. The trenches are further enforced with a highly rated young center and a LT prospect that has a high ceiling to push Braxton.

Blake Corum is a DAWG and his power and low center of gravity is the solution to short yardage and goal to go situations. Zack Zinter is the future replacement for whichever current OG on the team that can't stay out of the medical tent.

Roster:
QB - Fields, Bagent

WR - Moore, Harrison, Samuel, Scott, Jones

TE - Kmet, Bowers, Lewis

RB - Corum, Johnson, Herbert
FB - Blasingame

LT Jones, Foster
LG Jenkins, Zinter
C Van Pran, Kramer
RG Davis, Carter
RT Williams, Collins

CB - Johnson, Stevenson, Gordon, Smith, Blackwell, Jones

FS/SS - Winfield Jr, Brisker, Hicks

DT - Newton, Dexter, Billings, Pickens

DE - Sweat, Greenard, Walker, Khareem

LB - Edwards, Edmunds, Sanborn, Sewell

LS Scales
P Gill
K Santos

I think the trade back into the first is a great idea. I would have taken the top IOL on the board there, maybe JPJ, over Newton. A DT in the second would be okay. Otherwise, let’s get that haul.

 

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I think the trade back into the first is a great idea. I would have taken the top IOL on the board there, maybe JPJ, over Newton. A DT in the second would be okay. Otherwise, let’s get that haul.

JPJ and Barton were gone so no one else was worth it on the simulator. In reality I would have considered trading down from #2 to #6 and taken Nabors by giving the Giants a chance to move on from D. Jones.

With #9 I would have liked to trade back with the Raiders and taken Barton/JPJ but I got no accepted trades until the Bucs.

 

[dennehy]

Spends a ton on S and basically nothing on OL, and way too much $ for a S. Brutal OL depth. You give up way too much to move from 36 to 26 and it's unrealistic in that TB isn't going to take solely 2025 capital to make the move. It's actually a great trade to do 36 and 75 for 26, works out well on the points chart. You didn't even bother to use the 40th pick.

Greenard would be great but no reason for HOU to let him walk. They have plenty of cap.

Also relies on a rookie third round C who has been falling and goes into the draft without a 3T.

Josh Blackwell is a UDFA which means his offer is already set, and it will be for one year. You actually have him being paid below the league minimum. You don't really get any cap relief from cutting Robinson because it just puts another player who makes about the same onto the bottom of the cap. Guys who are signed as FA will almost certainly have cap hits that are lower than their AAVs in the first year, though.

 

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Spends a ton on S and basically nothing on OL, and way too much $ for a S. Brutal OL depth. You give up way too much to move from 36 to 26 and it's unrealistic in that TB isn't going to take solely 2025 capital to make the move. It's actually a great trade to do 36 and 75 for 26, works out well on the points chart. You didn't even bother to use the 40th pick.

Greenard would be great but no reason for HOU to let him walk. They have plenty of cap.

Also relies on a rookie third round C who has been falling and goes into the draft without a 3T.

Josh Blackwell is a UDFA which means his offer is already set, and it will be for one year. You actually have him being paid below the league minimum. You don't really get any cap relief from cutting Robinson because it just puts another player who makes about the same onto the bottom of the cap. Guys who are signed as FA will almost certainly have cap hits that are lower than their AAVs in the first year, though.

I respect your reply and critique...

The benefit of having a veteran QB is that you can feel comfortable having a rookie Center, Van Pran has faced SEC competition and held up just fine. He doesn't need to be an instant Pro Bowler, he just needs to be a major improvement over the last two UDFA Centers he's replacing, and he will be.

How you are calculating that a 1st team All-Pro safety doesn't deserve to be the highest paid safety in the league is beyond me. Derwin James is #1 at $19M AAV... $19.5M is fair and perhaps too low.

He is exactly the kind of big hitting, ball hawking player that is needed to limit the linebackers getting picked on in coverage late in games so his value to the team is well worth it.

I noticed but I'm not sure what happened to #40 pick in the simulator, but the result of trading the seconds to move back into the 1st would have been the same. If in Reality the Bears were able to get #36 & and future 1st from Washington I think that's plenty and it's what Peter King also hinted at. So again the results would still have turned out with the same players.

You're basically nit picking about the OLine depth when I added at minimum a swing tackle upgrade from Borum and Zak Zinter was likely a 2nd round LG before getting a torn ACL in the playoffs against Alabama.

Thanks for the reply however and Bear Down!

 

[pdxbearsfan]

InB4 Caleb, Blah blah blah...

Cuts: Travis Homer - Always injured, highest paid RB on the team - Save $2M
Dominique Robinson - he's had plenty of opportunity and shown nothing. Save $1M

Re-sign : Jaylon Johnson
View attachment 351615y -$18.5M AAV - (incentives added to allow him additional $2M AAV). The secondary was getting torched without him last season, he is still improving, and he has the character and leadership of a player you want on the team.


Marcedes Lewis 1y - $2M
Patrick Scales - 3y - $1.25M AAV
Josh Blackwell - 2y - $1.5M AAV


Free Agency:

FS Antoine Winfield Jr.
View attachment 35155
View attachment 35159
5y - $19.5M AAV - I love Brisker but he is 50/50 to get injured on every big hit. Adding Winfield Jr can lead to a Legion of Boom 2.0 caliber secondary.

DE Jonathan Greenard
View attachment 35156
View attachment 35158
4y - $15M AAV - Still only 26 and coming off of a 12.5 sack season, the Bears add an ascending pass rusher that doesn't break the bank and has a strong work ethic and character.

WR - Curtis Samuel
View attachment 35163
View attachment 35164
3y - $11M AAV - The Bears find a Mooney replacement standing 5'11 196lb, who ran a 4.31 in the 40 & 37" vert. Career catch % is 65%, he is besties with DJ and he also happens to be an Ohio St. alumni.


DRAFT...

Trade #1:
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I decided to keep it reasonable, for two second rounders and next year's 1st the Bears sacrifice the rights to King Caleb.

Trade #2:
View attachment 35166
The Bears move back into the 1st round by sacrificing next year's second and 3rd rounder to a team strapped in cap space that will consider adding more young players.

HAUL:
View attachment 35167

Poles adds two elite weapons MHJ and Bowers on offense in the first round, he also trades up to give Flus the engine to his defense. The trenches are further enforced with a highly rated young center and a LT prospect that has a high ceiling to push Braxton.

Blake Corum is a DAWG and his power and low center of gravity is the solution to short yardage and goal to go situations. Zack Zinter is the future replacement for whichever current OG on the team that can't stay out of the medical tent.

Roster:
QB - Fields, Bagent

WR - Moore, Harrison, Samuel, Scott, Jones

TE - Kmet, Bowers, Lewis

RB - Corum, Johnson, Herbert
FB - Blasingame

LT Jones, Foster
LG Jenkins, Zinter
C Van Pran, Kramer
RG Davis, Carter
RT Williams, Collins

CB - Johnson, Stevenson, Gordon, Smith, Blackwell, Jones

FS/SS - Winfield Jr, Brisker, Hicks

DT - Newton, Dexter, Billings, Pickens

DE - Sweat, Greenard, Walker, Khareem

LB - Edwards, Edmunds, Sanborn, Sewell

LS Scales
P Gill
K Santos

I really like Poles as the GM but if he leaves, I would seriously petition you for the job. This is good work,
I could quibble over 1 or 2 of the picks but nothing major.

 

[msadows]

I have a feeling the size of that text is how you normally browse the internet

If so bro wow.

 

[dennehy]

I respect your reply and critique...

The benefit of having a veteran QB is that you can feel comfortable having a rookie Center, Van Pran has faced SEC competition and held up just fine. He doesn't need to be an instant Pro Bowler, he just needs to be a major improvement over the last two UDFA Centers he's replacing, and he will be.

How you are calculating that a 1st team All-Pro safety doesn't deserve to be the highest paid safety in the league is beyond me. Derwin James is #1 at $19M AAV... $19.5M is fair and perhaps too low.

He is exactly the kind of big hitting, ball hawking player that is needed to limit the linebackers getting picked on in coverage late in games so his value to the team is well worth it.

I noticed but I'm not sure what happened to #40 pick in the simulator, but the result of trading the seconds to move back into the 1st would have been the same. If in Reality the Bears were able to get #36 & and future 1st from Washington I think that's plenty and it's what Peter King also hinted at. So again the results would still have turned out with the same players.

You're basically nit picking about the OLine depth when I added at minimum a swing tackle upgrade from Borum and Zak Zinter was likely a 2nd round LG before getting a torn ACL in the playoffs against Alabama.

Thanks for the reply however and Bear Down!

If Van Pran isn't ready you have no one else who has played center. Pretty simple. Your top two backups are both rookies, one of whom is coming up a major injury and might not be ready. Zinter actually broke his fibula against Ohio State.
The other is like a 4th or 5th rounder and chances are he's not actually an upgrade from Borom. Which is fine, but the IOL depth is non-existent.

I'm not commenting on what Winfield is worth, just that I'm not dumping anywhere near that $ into any safety. To each their own I guess, but S just isn't a position that I would go top of market on.

 

[HearshotKDS]

A few interesting lines, but I feel like instead of doing that trade for #26 and then the controversial decision to not use #40, you could instead use 36 and 40 and take like Barton and Tvondre Sweat and might have a better team that keeps its future draft capital.

 

[Xplosive]

I have a feeling the size of that text is how you normally browse the internet

If so bro wow.

I did this on my phone and it looks perfectly normal. I suppose I will have to look on my laptop to see what the complaint is.

 

[Xplosive]

A few interesting lines, but I feel like instead of doing that trade for #26 and then the controversial decision to not use #40, you could instead use 36 and 40 and take like Barton and Tvondre Sweat and might have a better team that keeps its future draft capital.

Barton was long gone using the simulator. I find they at least select players similar to team needs and I adapt on the fly.

If I simply took the fill in the blank approach, I would have traded up with Miami instead and taken JPJ, and probably Sweat round 2

 

[Xplosive]

I have a feeling the size of that text is how you normally browse the internet

If so bro wow.