Recouping Rose's cap space

[Crystallas]

I just wanted to get a topic going, before a lot of people point out misconceptions.


Retirements alone do not wipe a player off the books. The player has to either waive the remainder of their salary, OR have their injury deemed(meaning the league investigates and applies an injury exclusion) to be career ending.

If Rose is retired with the injury exclusion, then he can't come back into the NBA, unless he pays back all of the salary that he missed between the time he announces retirement and the remainder of his contract. There is a loophole, he can play 24 games before being obligated to pay anything back. But once he plays 25 games after a return, he's on the hook. So this is unlikely, because Rose will want to get paid, and not owe if he by some miracle, comes back.

I don't believe the NBA will issue an Injury Exclusion for Rose, just because they didn't issue one for Brandon Roy, who fought hard to get one. Thus forcing the Blazers to use the Amnesty clause on him. Rose doesn't qualify for Amnesty.

The other way, is if the Bulls buy his contract out. Then he requires league reinstatement. Reinstatement has never been a problem before for informal or formal medical retirements, I don't think this would be a problem now.

 

[Scoot26]

I highly doubt the Bulls are going to buy out his contract. The Bulls are going to be on the hook for the entire salary. Rose will come back, but to me his superstar days are gone.

 

[Crystallas]

I think there is one way the Bulls buy Rose's contract out. If a buyout helps them avoid the luxury tax that winds up costing them more.

Another one that is a possibility, but not saying that it is likely. MAYBE if Rose negotiates(hah, Rose's reps, not Rose himself) a different deal that allows him some guaranteed money for life as a buyout, in case he never plays again. Like the Curry deal, but with different options and a higher settlement pay.

 

[Axl Rose]

its not THAT serious

he'll be able to play still but hes just gonna be one high priced role player...so if Rose did indeed tear his ACL we're set back for awhile

 

[Crystallas]

its not THAT serious

he'll be able to play still but hes just gonna be one high priced role player

in other words if Rose did indeed tear his ACL we're set back for awhile

That's the key to everything. Confirming the injury. If he tore his ACL....

It's the most serious set-back to happen to the Bulls since Jordan retired. It's easier to climb out of Tom Floyd era dumps, than it is to climb out of purgatory.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

wow.

Im still in shock..

Fire John paxson

 

[Scoot26]

wow.

Im still in shock..

Fire John paxson

Yes, fire John Paxson because Rose tore his ACL. That makes a ton of sense.

 

[DrGonzo]

Let's assume Rose is out for another year and returns as a decent, not great player. How many more years are left on his contract before the Bulls can get out from under it?

 

[BNB]

Let's assume Rose is out for another year and returns as a decent, not great player. How many more years are left on his contract before the Bulls can get out from under it?

After this season, 3.

 

[clonetrooper264]

You can't really be that mad at anyone for this. IF Rose actually tore his other ACL that's like getting struck by lighting twice.

It does suck though because regardless he will be more of a cap burden than anything. I'm hoping he just has a really bad sprain which will at least still allow the possibility of him coming back at least to this level of play. Two torn ACLs? That's just a sad scenario all around.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Yes, fire John Paxson because Rose tore his ACL. That makes a ton of sense.

What?

If Derrick had another athlete and offensive threat who could draw double and triple teams away, Derrick would NOT have to drive and push so damned hard. Every damned thing being thrown on his shoulders and too much pressure on the court has not helped his health cause..............Its like sending a soldier into battle without the right personel and weapons.


Whos responsible for creating the roster and sending him into battle without another platoon leader and sniper?

Jon Paxson.

Make sense?

End of story.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

How ironic is it that as soon as Jimmy is taken off the roster, (the only sort of threat on the backcourt with Rose) Derrick then has to overexcert himself.....hence, he had to push harder and now back in the hospital.

 

[clonetrooper264]

How ironic is it that as soon as Jimmy is taken off the roster, (the only sort of threat on the backcourt with Rose) Derrick then has to overexcert himself.....hence, he had to push harder and now back in the hospital.

:enough:

 

[Flacco4Prez]

Yes, fire John Paxson because Rose tore his ACL. That makes a ton of sense.

Fire Paxson because he failed to get Rose appropriate help the past 4 years and counting. You never know how long your window will be open. Looks like the Bulls missed theirs due to incompetence in the front office

 

[sicko]

Rose not going anywhere! Just turned 25 years old, still very young!

The focus should be on surrounding him around more talent so that way when he returns he won't have to try and do everything by himself and risking MORE INJURIES! Rose came back to the team he left, a team depending on him to carry them Offensively!

Before making any more moves to the Roster...how about FIRING GAR FOREMAN AND JOHN PAXSON!

 

[sicko]

Fire Paxson because he failed to get Rose appropriate help the past 4 years and counting. You never know how long your window will be open. Looks like the Bulls missed theirs due to incompetence in the front office

The Ron Adams Situation, not adding another scorer, our depth this season is by far the worse we had in a long time. Our bench is fuckin Hinrich, Dunleavy and Gibson at the moment. You lose Nate Robinson and Marco Belinelli and you replace them with...Dunleavy? And you expect that to be enough to beat Miami or the Pacers in a Playoff Series?

 

[ChiSoxCity]

The Bulls are paying $6MIL over two years for 8 ppg off the bench... :cookiemonster:

 

[jooo83]

I highly doubt the Bulls are going to buy out his contract. The Bulls are going to be on the hook for the entire salary. Rose will come back, but to me his superstar days are gone.

Assuming he's even allowed to, why would a player agree to a buyout of a guaranteed contract?

 

[NCChiFan]

What?

If Derrick had another athlete and offensive threat who could draw double and triple teams away, Derrick would NOT have to drive and push so damned hard. Every damned thing being thrown on his shoulders and too much pressure on the court has not helped his health cause..............Its like sending a soldier into battle without the right personel and weapons.


Whos responsible for creating the roster and sending him into battle without another platoon leader and sniper?

Jon Paxson.

Make sense?

End of story.

No it doesn't, one does not adjust his game to who he is playing with. Lebron in Miami isn't a different Lebron to the Lebron in Cleveland. D. Rose would be D. Rose no matter where he played, bad knees and all. I've not often disagreed with you, but on this one I do.

 

[Crystallas]

How ironic is it that as soon as Jimmy is taken off the roster, (the only sort of threat on the backcourt with Rose) Derrick then has to overexcert himself.....hence, he had to push harder and now back in the hospital.

First, that is not irony.

Second, I know what you mean. When a partner of mine takes a day off, I have to work twice as hard and always wind up in the hospital because I had to pick up the slack. /sarcasm