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Funny how I've never seen Barry at any of the Hawks games or events....
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[quote name="TJD"]Funny how I've never seen Barry at any of the Hawks games or events....[/quote]
Oh but he plays hockey on the weekends, and loves to talk about when he was on the 'Hawks beat in the 80's...
The part I love best about the article is when he throws out the Dudley vs Bowman theory...Interestingly enough, it was Dudley who was Stan's most active trading partner (and it is not like he screwed Stan with the trades either).
Oh but he plays hockey on the weekends, and loves to talk about when he was on the 'Hawks beat in the 80's...
The part I love best about the article is when he throws out the Dudley vs Bowman theory...Interestingly enough, it was Dudley who was Stan's most active trading partner (and it is not like he screwed Stan with the trades either).
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Oh but he plays hockey on the weekends, and loves to talk about when he was on the 'Hawks beat in the 80's...
The part I love best about the article is when he throws out the Dudley vs Bowman theory...Interestingly enough, it was Dudley who was Stan's most active trading partner (and it is not like he screwed Stan with the trades either).[/quote]
I sometimes like Rozners articles, but this past year I've found myself skipping his space in the herald more and more.
Oh but he plays hockey on the weekends, and loves to talk about when he was on the 'Hawks beat in the 80's...
The part I love best about the article is when he throws out the Dudley vs Bowman theory...Interestingly enough, it was Dudley who was Stan's most active trading partner (and it is not like he screwed Stan with the trades either).[/quote]
I sometimes like Rozners articles, but this past year I've found myself skipping his space in the herald more and more.
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[quote name="TJD"]Funny how I've never seen Barry at any of the Hawks games or events....[/quote]
he doesn't need to be. he gets all his info from the biggest ****** bag on the planet.
he doesn't need to be. he gets all his info from the biggest ****** bag on the planet.
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[quote name="fanof19"]Here's one of Barry's
If this all sounds familiar, there's probably a good reason.
Of Brian Campbell's $56 million deal, Blackhawks GM Dale Tallon said, "We had to make a statement.''
Consider what then-Cubs president John McDonough said when his club signed Alfonso Soriano: "We had to make a statement to our fans.''
Interesting.
In his first big move as the boss, McDonough sent GM Jim Hendry out on the free-agent market, told him to get the biggest name for any amount of money, and overpay if you must, but get Soriano - even as most in baseball believed Soriano to be one-dimensional and consistently unable to perform in the postseason.
The result was almost universally cheered in the Chicago media, which led to increased ticket sales, bigger radio and TV advertising revenue, and a splendid convention.
Now, the Hawks have done essentially the same thing.
Campbell is a wing dressed in a defenseman's sweater, exceptional on the power play and moving the puck, but often invisible in his own end.
Tallon and his scouts must have watched Campbell play for San Jose in the Western Conference playoffs - which are more physical than the East - noted how small he looked when the game got rough, and how ineffective he was at the most crucial time of the season.
If the coaches hated Dustin Byfuglien's turnovers, how are they going to like Campbell's for $7 million a year?
To his credit, Tallon admitted he overpaid and even explained why he did it. As Hendry was told to get whoever was perceived as the top free agent at any price, so was Tallon. He followed orders, so this purchase rests only partially on his shoulders.
Soriano came here because the Cubs offered the most money, and who can blame him?
It's no sin for Brian Campbell or Cristobal Huet to drain every possible dollar out of free agency, just as Nikolai Khabibulin and Adrian Aucoin did a few years back, when they chose money over other factors, like a chance to win.
But what's really key here is that no one sells hope and sunshine - not to mention tickets - better than John McDonough.
The buzz is back, and the Hawks Convention will feature cheerleading the likes of which the Hawks haven't seen in decades.
The fans will be able to celebrate a championship in July, just as Cubs fans do every January.
Let's just hope the Hawks go deeper than the Cubs did last year - when Soriano disappeared and the Cubs went home early.
Ivan Boldirev-ing
GM Dale Tallon is playing it perfectly in saying he intends to keep and play both Nikolai Khabibulin ($6.7 million) and Cristobal Huet ($5.6 million) in net next season.
Of course this will never work and Tallon wants desperately to move Khabibulin, but he can't announce that and risk having to pay too much of that salary when he gets the deal done.
Along the same lines, how fast can Tallon get the poisonous Martin Havlat ($6 million) a plane ticket to Whocareswhere?
Phil Housley-ing
The power play, one of the worst in hockey for about a decade, should improve dramatically with the addition of specialist Brian Campbell.
He's got his critics, to be sure, but the Hawks have guaranteed with Campbell that the power play will be one of the best in the NHL next season.
It's not Campbell's fault the Hawks paid him to be Bobby Orr, because he can't possibly live up to the hype or that pressure, just as Soriano couldn't be Willie Mays when he doesn't even own a glove.
Bank it
What's Duncan Keith going to be worth considering he's probably a better all-around hockey player than the man the Hawks just gave $56 million?
Keith's at $1.6 million and $1.9 million the next two years, and then he's a restricted free agent.
The Hawks have a bunch of kids coming due within a couple of years, including The Big Two, and there'll be tagging issues left and right.
This isn't baseball where you can backload contracts all day and never pay a price. At some point, the Hawks will have to make some tough calls.
Front and center
When the Hawks dump some dead weight and salary, how about finding a No. 1 center to take the load off Jonathan Toews, like Wayne Gretzky just did for Kyle Turris in Phoenix?
"We got Olli Jokinen,'' said Gretzky, "so that Turris wouldn't have to face the other team's best every shift. That's a lot for a kid.''
Hmmm.
Runneth over
Not every free agent takes the best deal or most money. Marian Hossa (one year, $7.4 million) and Ty Conklin (one year, $750,000) signed with Detroit for less - and a chance to win a Stanley Cup.
Water bottle shot
Speaking of Detroit, should the Hawks have saved some money for next summer, when Henrik Zetterberg will be an unrestricted free agent?
Final four?
The way the Hawks have sold the upcoming season, anything short of the Western Conference finals appearance will be a huge disappointment.
They might want to get off to a fast start in October, because the pressure on Campbell, the super sophs, the coaching staff and the GM will increase dramatically if they don't.
Bull stuff
Bulls GM John Paxson could take a page from Dale Tallon's book and not announce to the NBA that he intends to work through the Ben Gordon and Luol Deng contracts before deciding whether to trade Kirk Hinrich.
When he does that, he shows his cards and risks getting nothing in return for Hinrich.
And finally-
Comedian Alex Kaseberg: "With the Cubs and White Sox leading their divisions, and in the event both make the playoffs and reach the World Series, Illinois farmers are being advised to clip the wings on their pigs earlier than usual this fall.''
brozner@dailyherald.com[/quote]
you should send this to the ass. I called him out on FB and he told me reading was a skill. Apparently writing does not use the same skill. I then told him his hands on the Stanely Cup were a disgrace to the Stanley Cup. He then blocked me LOL.
TJ he's been going to Hawk games pretty regularly since McMoron came aboard. Before than I rarely saw hime because everyone there knew he was a ******.
Rozner----Class A ****** Bag.
If this all sounds familiar, there's probably a good reason.
Of Brian Campbell's $56 million deal, Blackhawks GM Dale Tallon said, "We had to make a statement.''
Consider what then-Cubs president John McDonough said when his club signed Alfonso Soriano: "We had to make a statement to our fans.''
Interesting.
In his first big move as the boss, McDonough sent GM Jim Hendry out on the free-agent market, told him to get the biggest name for any amount of money, and overpay if you must, but get Soriano - even as most in baseball believed Soriano to be one-dimensional and consistently unable to perform in the postseason.
The result was almost universally cheered in the Chicago media, which led to increased ticket sales, bigger radio and TV advertising revenue, and a splendid convention.
Now, the Hawks have done essentially the same thing.
Campbell is a wing dressed in a defenseman's sweater, exceptional on the power play and moving the puck, but often invisible in his own end.
Tallon and his scouts must have watched Campbell play for San Jose in the Western Conference playoffs - which are more physical than the East - noted how small he looked when the game got rough, and how ineffective he was at the most crucial time of the season.
If the coaches hated Dustin Byfuglien's turnovers, how are they going to like Campbell's for $7 million a year?
To his credit, Tallon admitted he overpaid and even explained why he did it. As Hendry was told to get whoever was perceived as the top free agent at any price, so was Tallon. He followed orders, so this purchase rests only partially on his shoulders.
Soriano came here because the Cubs offered the most money, and who can blame him?
It's no sin for Brian Campbell or Cristobal Huet to drain every possible dollar out of free agency, just as Nikolai Khabibulin and Adrian Aucoin did a few years back, when they chose money over other factors, like a chance to win.
But what's really key here is that no one sells hope and sunshine - not to mention tickets - better than John McDonough.
The buzz is back, and the Hawks Convention will feature cheerleading the likes of which the Hawks haven't seen in decades.
The fans will be able to celebrate a championship in July, just as Cubs fans do every January.
Let's just hope the Hawks go deeper than the Cubs did last year - when Soriano disappeared and the Cubs went home early.
Ivan Boldirev-ing
GM Dale Tallon is playing it perfectly in saying he intends to keep and play both Nikolai Khabibulin ($6.7 million) and Cristobal Huet ($5.6 million) in net next season.
Of course this will never work and Tallon wants desperately to move Khabibulin, but he can't announce that and risk having to pay too much of that salary when he gets the deal done.
Along the same lines, how fast can Tallon get the poisonous Martin Havlat ($6 million) a plane ticket to Whocareswhere?
Phil Housley-ing
The power play, one of the worst in hockey for about a decade, should improve dramatically with the addition of specialist Brian Campbell.
He's got his critics, to be sure, but the Hawks have guaranteed with Campbell that the power play will be one of the best in the NHL next season.
It's not Campbell's fault the Hawks paid him to be Bobby Orr, because he can't possibly live up to the hype or that pressure, just as Soriano couldn't be Willie Mays when he doesn't even own a glove.
Bank it
What's Duncan Keith going to be worth considering he's probably a better all-around hockey player than the man the Hawks just gave $56 million?
Keith's at $1.6 million and $1.9 million the next two years, and then he's a restricted free agent.
The Hawks have a bunch of kids coming due within a couple of years, including The Big Two, and there'll be tagging issues left and right.
This isn't baseball where you can backload contracts all day and never pay a price. At some point, the Hawks will have to make some tough calls.
Front and center
When the Hawks dump some dead weight and salary, how about finding a No. 1 center to take the load off Jonathan Toews, like Wayne Gretzky just did for Kyle Turris in Phoenix?
"We got Olli Jokinen,'' said Gretzky, "so that Turris wouldn't have to face the other team's best every shift. That's a lot for a kid.''
Hmmm.
Runneth over
Not every free agent takes the best deal or most money. Marian Hossa (one year, $7.4 million) and Ty Conklin (one year, $750,000) signed with Detroit for less - and a chance to win a Stanley Cup.
Water bottle shot
Speaking of Detroit, should the Hawks have saved some money for next summer, when Henrik Zetterberg will be an unrestricted free agent?
Final four?
The way the Hawks have sold the upcoming season, anything short of the Western Conference finals appearance will be a huge disappointment.
They might want to get off to a fast start in October, because the pressure on Campbell, the super sophs, the coaching staff and the GM will increase dramatically if they don't.
Bull stuff
Bulls GM John Paxson could take a page from Dale Tallon's book and not announce to the NBA that he intends to work through the Ben Gordon and Luol Deng contracts before deciding whether to trade Kirk Hinrich.
When he does that, he shows his cards and risks getting nothing in return for Hinrich.
And finally-
Comedian Alex Kaseberg: "With the Cubs and White Sox leading their divisions, and in the event both make the playoffs and reach the World Series, Illinois farmers are being advised to clip the wings on their pigs earlier than usual this fall.''
brozner@dailyherald.com[/quote]
you should send this to the ass. I called him out on FB and he told me reading was a skill. Apparently writing does not use the same skill. I then told him his hands on the Stanely Cup were a disgrace to the Stanley Cup. He then blocked me LOL.
TJ he's been going to Hawk games pretty regularly since McMoron came aboard. Before than I rarely saw hime because everyone there knew he was a ******.
Rozner----Class A ****** Bag.
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you should send this to the ass. I called him out on FB and he told me reading was a skill. Apparently writing does not use the same skill. I then told him his hands on the Stanely Cup were a disgrace to the Stanley Cup. He then blocked me LOL.
TJ he's been going to Hawk games pretty regularly since McMoron came aboard. Before than I rarely saw hime because everyone there knew he was a ******.
Rozner----Class A ****** Bag.[/quote]
I meant Hawk sponsored events. I see Sassone around those a lot, but again he's the beat writer for the Hawks and Rozner is a "Chicago Sports" writer.
you should send this to the ass. I called him out on FB and he told me reading was a skill. Apparently writing does not use the same skill. I then told him his hands on the Stanely Cup were a disgrace to the Stanley Cup. He then blocked me LOL.
TJ he's been going to Hawk games pretty regularly since McMoron came aboard. Before than I rarely saw hime because everyone there knew he was a ******.
Rozner----Class A ****** Bag.[/quote]
I meant Hawk sponsored events. I see Sassone around those a lot, but again he's the beat writer for the Hawks and Rozner is a "Chicago Sports" writer.
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here's the thing those moronic writers tend to forget. In the beginning Dale HAD to overpay to get any form of talent in the city. Not until we missed the playoffs by 3 points did players realize hockey is actually back in Chicago. By then Campbell was already signed to his monster deal. Bulin was grossly overpaid to come to Chicago as well, among many others.
And if the rumors are true that McD told Tallon to McSplash on Campbell and Huet. How the hell can you blame Tallon? Huet should have never been signed, that was a damn mistake and is on McDouche's hands. The late qualifying offers again rumors of McDick screwing around with Tallon. Notice a pattern?
Sure Tallon overpaid Buff when he extended his contract. I'll fault him for that one sure but if Buff kept being the playoff MONSTER that he was, he would have been worth every penny. Hell Buff pissing off Luongo is worth his paycheck.
Scooter has done a fine job but personally Dale should have never been canned and I'd rather have DT as our GM still.
And if the rumors are true that McD told Tallon to McSplash on Campbell and Huet. How the hell can you blame Tallon? Huet should have never been signed, that was a damn mistake and is on McDouche's hands. The late qualifying offers again rumors of McDick screwing around with Tallon. Notice a pattern?
Sure Tallon overpaid Buff when he extended his contract. I'll fault him for that one sure but if Buff kept being the playoff MONSTER that he was, he would have been worth every penny. Hell Buff pissing off Luongo is worth his paycheck.
Scooter has done a fine job but personally Dale should have never been canned and I'd rather have DT as our GM still.
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I meant Hawk sponsored events. I see Sassone around those a lot, but again he's the beat writer for the Hawks and Rozner is a "Chicago Sports" writer.[/quote]
Yea before last year Sassone and Kuc, other than the comcast guys (Hawks partially own) were the ONLY two consistent media folks there. Would see them after every game. Now they are good the media, like many fans, hop right on the band wagon. Bad or good, whether they know hockey or not. Rozner, like Marriotti just wants to light flames. Worse he has an ax to grind with Tallon, whether it be to appease his ASS BUDDY, or just because he can't let it go. I don't really care. The guy is a joke, the ONLY reason I saw it was because the article was posted somewhere. Rozner is a shit sports journalist and I don't waste my time. Hell I don't read ANY of them unless the article is posted somewhere.
I meant Hawk sponsored events. I see Sassone around those a lot, but again he's the beat writer for the Hawks and Rozner is a "Chicago Sports" writer.[/quote]
Yea before last year Sassone and Kuc, other than the comcast guys (Hawks partially own) were the ONLY two consistent media folks there. Would see them after every game. Now they are good the media, like many fans, hop right on the band wagon. Bad or good, whether they know hockey or not. Rozner, like Marriotti just wants to light flames. Worse he has an ax to grind with Tallon, whether it be to appease his ASS BUDDY, or just because he can't let it go. I don't really care. The guy is a joke, the ONLY reason I saw it was because the article was posted somewhere. Rozner is a shit sports journalist and I don't waste my time. Hell I don't read ANY of them unless the article is posted somewhere.
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[quote name="supraman"]here's the thing those moronic writers tend to forget. In the beginning Dale HAD to overpay to get any form of talent in the city. Not until we missed the playoffs by 3 points did players realize hockey is actually back in Chicago. By then Campbell was already signed to his monster deal. Bulin was grossly overpaid to come to Chicago as well, among many others.
And if the rumors are true that McD told Tallon to McSplash on Campbell and Huet. How the hell can you blame Tallon? Huet should have never been signed, that was a damn mistake and is on McDouche's hands. The late qualifying offers again rumors of McDick screwing around with Tallon. Notice a pattern?
Sure Tallon overpaid Buff when he extended his contract. I'll fault him for that one sure but if Buff kept being the playoff MONSTER that he was, he would have been worth every penny. Hell Buff pissing off Luongo is worth his paycheck.
Scooter has done a fine job but personally Dale should have never been canned and I'd rather have DT as our GM still.[/quote]
On the subject of overpaying, does anyone consider Bolland overpayed? Sometimes you overpay for potential and in the Hawks minds both Buff and Bolland were worth overpaying for.
And if the rumors are true that McD told Tallon to McSplash on Campbell and Huet. How the hell can you blame Tallon? Huet should have never been signed, that was a damn mistake and is on McDouche's hands. The late qualifying offers again rumors of McDick screwing around with Tallon. Notice a pattern?
Sure Tallon overpaid Buff when he extended his contract. I'll fault him for that one sure but if Buff kept being the playoff MONSTER that he was, he would have been worth every penny. Hell Buff pissing off Luongo is worth his paycheck.
Scooter has done a fine job but personally Dale should have never been canned and I'd rather have DT as our GM still.[/quote]
On the subject of overpaying, does anyone consider Bolland overpayed? Sometimes you overpay for potential and in the Hawks minds both Buff and Bolland were worth overpaying for.
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[quote name="Maiden"]
On the subject of overpaying, does anyone consider Bolland overpayed? Sometimes you overpay for potential and in the Hawks minds both Buff and Bolland were worth overpaying for.[/quote]
Hmm that's a hard one to answer only because of his injury really hurt him this season. I think he is overpaid as a 3rd line center, but as a 2nd line center I think his pay is correct.
I really don't have an answer for you. In hindsight no I don't think he was overpaid, I think Bolland is going to become a star in this league and I see his potential. His back killed his season until the playoff where again he made a significant impact. Maybe then he was overpaid kinda like buff so yeah I guess he was then.
On the subject of overpaying, does anyone consider Bolland overpayed? Sometimes you overpay for potential and in the Hawks minds both Buff and Bolland were worth overpaying for.[/quote]
Hmm that's a hard one to answer only because of his injury really hurt him this season. I think he is overpaid as a 3rd line center, but as a 2nd line center I think his pay is correct.
I really don't have an answer for you. In hindsight no I don't think he was overpaid, I think Bolland is going to become a star in this league and I see his potential. His back killed his season until the playoff where again he made a significant impact. Maybe then he was overpaid kinda like buff so yeah I guess he was then.
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