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Luck is by far the best young qb in the nfl right now and it's not even close imho
Luck is by far the best young qb in the nfl right now and it's not even close imho
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Now for the real question: would you want the Bears to pay $25M/year to sign Wilson?
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He's definitely lived up to the hype.
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Rodgers is the best QB around. I'm responding to the idea that he had carried the Packers any where.
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I consider the playoffs an accomplishment. I watched a lot of non-playoff Packer seasons. Rodgers got hurt and they went 8-7-1 and still made the playoffs. If by anywhere, you mean the Super Bowl? Well you have lofty goals for your team. The playoffs are just fine by me watching the Packer teams I grew up with.
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I like Luck a LOT......but Wilson has the #'s and the ring.
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compared to what we're getting outta' jay.....YES
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I get tied of this argument. Lynn got shut down in the first SB yet Wilson did enuff to help them win. The marginalization of Wilson's effect on the 'Hawks needs to stop
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Russ #'s, playoff production and SB performances say yes
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you obviously are not familiar with Wilson's passing stats over his 3yr career. go look it up and get back to us
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So you saw many a 80's Packer teams?
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You mean like how the Packers were 6-2 in games in which Rodgers threw more than 3 passes in 2013, while they were 2-5 -1 otherwise without him? That kinda carrying a team doesn't work for you?
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OT: Russell Wilson Offered $21m/yr - He declines
Jim McMahon would disagree
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Jim McMahon would disagree
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Trent Dilfer's elite 2000 season would also disagree.
Honorable mention...Kyle Orton's 2005 elite season.
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Well since he went 39-7 with a SB ring as a starter with such, and since the premise of this thread is that mediocre passing stats don't determine worth, winning does. McMahon was elite during that stint.
Oh and that doesn't even take into account his effect on the defensive. The Bears were #14 in PPG the year before he arrived, top 5 every year(#1 3x's) he was the starter, and dropped to #20 the season he left. That is elite.
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So you're saying that teams can win SB's with #1 defenses and great running games and QB's that just make a few plays when needed? Interesting.
But Baltimore gave up 108 and 100 more points in the seasons bookending Trents SB with Balt. Are you ignoring his effect on the defense? Or is that just a R Wilson effect?
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Nope, I'm merely pointing out how elite these QBs seemed
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You know they also didn't have the star RB in either of those two seasons, since he was a rookie the SB year and he missed the entire next season with an injury. Jamal Lewis was a big factor to that team and they also didn't even have the backup the year after the SB who happened to be a yet to really flourish Priest Holmes.
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So, QB's that have #1 D's and great running games can seem elite while truthfully not being so...except, of course, R Wilson. Hell, he took Seattle's above average defense made them #1 3 years running and carried them to a SB victory, all while abstaining from sex and fielding phone calls from God. Truly Elite.