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Dan Haren and Scott Baker pick-up woul not be bad at all and the best scenario probably. But I don't know if it'll happen because the Cubs aren't gunna contend (suppost) and players want a world series ring. But if it did happen, that would be nice. A rotation of Garza, Samardzija, Haren, Baker and Wood.
 

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He's not the best pitcher, but I'm all for him though. There's a great chance he'll come on a 1-year deal to try and pitch good and get a better offer next free agency turn. He could be a Paul Maholm type player. Also, he won't cost much. So, he really does make sense for the Cubs.
 

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What's the scouting report on him? I only know him via two White Sox games I've seen him pitch in.

Anybody have 2-8 grades on his stuff/pitchability?
 

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its a guy a year away from the game coming off tommy john surgery. granted he was good in 2011......he only pitched 134 innings that year. but hey he his league avg
 

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What's the scouting report on him? I only know him via two White Sox games I've seen him pitch in.

Anybody have 2-8 grades on his stuff/pitchability?

Just off Google...no number grades though.

http://releasepoints.com/2012/03/01/scouting-report-scott-baker/

Scott Baker, in a sense, is the perfect representation of the Minnesota Twins’ organizational pitching philosophy. He’s not overpowering – his fastball sits in the 90-91 mph range – but pounds the strike zone. He won’t produce a lot of swings-and-misses, but won’t walk many either. He does, however, work both sides of the plate and changes speeds well.


His fastball sits in the 90 mph but can touch a tick or two higher. It’s an average pitch though his two-seamer has decent tail. Baker will vary the speed and spin on his slider, and will try to backdoor it to good left-handed hitters. He shows good arm speed on his changeup, which is another solid offering with decent fade.
Given his lack of a strikeout pitch, he struggles at times with putting hitters away.
Baker’s the prototypical middle-of-the-rotation starter.

http://60ft6in.com/al-central/minnesota-twins/

Baker is a fly ball pitcher. His fastball gets some arm side run, but little sink. Scott will snap plenty of curveballs around 80 mph and guide some changeups to LHs and RHs. His fourth pitch is a slider normally thrown away from RHs. Baker is one of those pitchers that works quickly and won't hurt himself with walks.

Don't really know much about his "stuff".
 

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Sox should deal Floyd's horse shit ass & take a flier on Baker.
 

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Just off Google...no number grades though.

http://releasepoints.com/2012/03/01/scouting-report-scott-baker/



http://60ft6in.com/al-central/minnesota-twins/



Don't really know much about his "stuff".

Ahhh thanks.

Assuming he's a 5 on all his pitches the real question is this: Does he have enough swing and miss ability (K rate has sat at 20% over the past two years) in his game to perhaps benefit from the over-shifting the Cubs employ defensively. Seems like a flyball pitcher given the numbers so I dunno how much that matters...
 

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Ahhh thanks.

Assuming he's a 5 on all his pitches the real question is this: Does he have enough swing and miss ability (K rate has sat at 20% over the past two years) in his game to perhaps benefit from the over-shifting the Cubs employ defensively. Seems like a flyball pitcher given the numbers so I dunno how much that matters...

What I hope happens is that the Cubs dig up the manual on how they converted Garza from an extreme fly ball pitcher into a guy who generates slightly more ground balls than in the past. The swing-and-miss stuff is apparently lacking but the control of the strike zone is a good thing.
 

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What I hope happens is that the Cubs dig up the manual on how they converted Garza from an extreme fly ball pitcher into a guy who generates slightly more ground balls than in the past. The swing-and-miss stuff is apparently lacking but the control of the strike zone is a good thing.

even a slight uptick would probably do wonders if it's combined with moving to the NL. Even if the surface stats like ERA and WHIP don't go down any it might be a plus considering he's moving to a schizophrenic ballpark.
 

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Naturally this assumes that the Cubs are REALLY interested. The report by Morosi is sort of wishy-washy, as "variable" degrees of interest could mean that the Cubs threw a name into a hat rather than showing genuine "we must have you" interest.
 

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to go off of anything from his past is a bit much. He wasnt very good before the injury and now no one knows how he will be. to look at his past scouting reports is just too much for me to handle in a convo since it makes zero sense
 

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Naturally this assumes that the Cubs are REALLY interested. The report by Morosi is sort of wishy-washy, as "variable" degrees of interest could mean that the Cubs threw a name into a hat rather than showing genuine "we must have you" interest.

Oh of course. He is interesting on a purely statistical level to think about. He might be a Vogelsong type candidate too, someone who learns to put more run on his fastball and that makes all the difference.

Basically I'm bored now that baseball is over and I'm relegated to thinking about Scott Baker and how to fix him.
 

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to go off of anything from his past is a bit much. He wasnt very good before the injury and now no one knows how he will be. to look at his past scouting reports is just too much for me to handle in a convo since it makes zero sense

What else are GMs supposed to do? :lol: They only have past performance to look at, in which he was at least league average and actually decent before he went under the knife, and they have no crystal ball. If he's a cheap acquisition like Paul Maholm was, it's a good risk to take.
 

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Yeah I think the Cubs are checking in on literally every pitcher. Baker makes some sense as he could be a Maholm type signing (1 year plus club option), and the Cubs need guys to fill out the rotation because they only have 3 guys that could be ready to pitch (assuming Garza is healthy). If Baker pitches like he did prior to going down he would be an improvement over a lot of the arms that started games last year.
 

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Low risk, only giving up money (he shouldn't be getting all that much), if it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. Reward is a nice pickup of some medium-level prospects while stopgapping before the potential Vizcaino call-up.
 

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