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Have a couple Samsungs for my desktop (830) and old laptop (840 EVO). Love them both. Really nice speed increases. Looking at a Sandisk Pro Extreme 240 GB right now ($134 on Amazon) for something different and a bit faster. Would also be happy with a Samsung 850 EVO ($97) for a few less dollars. Been reading the former can be glitchy, so I will probably stick with the old reliable latter.

What brands/models do you guys use? Any ones to really stay away from?
 

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I've only heard you can't go wrong with the Samsung.
 

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Man, prices have really come down. I bought a Samsung 128GB about 4-5 years ago, and I think I paid around $300. It works great, though.


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My main question is what the differences between the Samsung pro and evo are and can you tell a difference, I assume you can because of the price, but if I'm putting it in a PS4 is it going to matter?
 

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My main question is what the differences between the Samsung pro and evo are and can you tell a difference, I assume you can because of the price, but if I'm putting it in a PS4 is it going to matter?

I've read the Pro has better benchmarks, but in real life there's not as much noticeable difference.

Here's a link to some good info.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1767466/samsung-840-pro-ssd-samsung-840-evo-ssd.html

Didn't find enough about huge performance increases to justify the cost of the Pro when I bought my Evo.
 

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Difference between the pro and the evo is the controller. MEX vs MDX. The pro is a little faster. I don't think you will notice a difference unless you are working with/moving huge files or lots and lots of files. In terms of gaming, all a ssd really does is decrease load times and save times so the difference is probably fractions of a second.

Also, for pc, if someone is adding more SSD drives to a system, I would personally try to buy a new one that matches the original and then just put them both in raid 0 for blazing speed. And get a HDD to back them up on.
 

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raid 0 will nearly double their speed, boss
 

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Also, newegg has 500gb samsung 850 evo for $177
 

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If I am going for raw speed I will go with an Intel NVMe PCI-E SSD. That absolutely destroys any bloody SATA SSD on the planet for under $1 per GB. Its some cutting edge shiznit though so unless you have a relatively new PC you can't use them as boot drives. Alas my beast can't use one as a boot drive. Only for storage purposes but I am still thinking about getting one for my games. They are literally Special person times faster than SATA SSDs.
 

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If I am going for raw speed I will go with an Intel NVMe PCI-E SSD. That absolutely destroys any bloody SATA SSD on the planet for under $1 per GB. Its some cutting edge shiznit though so unless you have a relatively new PC you can't use them as boot drives. Alas my beast can't use one as a boot drive. Only for storage purposes but I am still thinking about getting one for my games. They are literally Special person times faster than SATA SSDs.

That's the point of m.2, to merge the PCIe and SATA bus compatibility. But m.2 can boot in raid config, where PCIe has to be software(rendering it unbootable with current consumerspace chipsets). Although coreboot supported bios chipsets can *kind of* work around that.
 

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What are you talking about? X99 already supports NVMe PCI-E boot drives and so will the upcoming chipsets far as I know like the Z170. Asus is also considering bringing support for it on its X79, Z87 or Z77 motherboards. It would simply be a BIOS update. Although it would actually be a good bit of work on their end to accomplish this. Hence why its just a poll to test the waters for now:

https://pcdiy.asus.com/2015/04/asus-nvme-support-poll-voice-your-opinion/#comment-15334

If Asus does end up supporting it on X79 motherboards then I will dump my motherboard in a heartbeat for one of their boards.
 

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There is an existing bootable hardware raid support for PCIe in the consumerspace?
 

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I never said anything about RAID and neither did you until now...

Edit: You mentioned m.2 RAID, I missed that altogether. For what its worth I wouldn't have any need to RAID multiple of these SSDs together. One alone already beats quad SATA SSDs in a RAID array.
 
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Raid is good for more than just performance. It's good for keeping an active backup. For users like me where the data need to be local and secure, also backed up, raid is a must have feature. But my point was kind of, PCIe devices might not get the full treatment because m.2 is the merger of SATA and PCIe. So hopefully intel releases m.2 variants sometime soon. That IMO would be a real delight.
 

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Aye, I live on the enthusiast end so nothing I have is built for redundancy. I am confused though between m.2 and PCI-E. I was under the impression that m.2 drives aren't as fast as the PCI-E SSD variants.
 

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