Sometimes I'm really tired of Luol Deng

[NealKleren]

"Luol Deng scored 32 points and grabbed nine rebounds in a 91-82 defeat of Hungary in Britain's first game."

Seriously if the Bulls were smart they would say no to Deng playing overseas in the off season because he always does good for them but then when it comes to coming back to the Bulls its the "Im hurt" card.Complete bullshit im seriously mad about how the bulls always let him go over and play for them. He gets hurt for us and when its his offseason to heal and workout he'll go and play for them and then comeback for us hurt. Im not knocking him saying hes terrible or anything but I hate how sometimes it seems like he cares about playing overseas more than say training in the offseason and getting ready for the Bulls.We're paying you!!!!

 

[houheffna]

The Bulls can't tell Deng to stop playing if they are going to let Rose play. There is nothing there to get angry about. Deng missed 12 games, he played hard in the playoffs and I don't believe his health was a factor at that time. He should be allowed to play.

 

[TheStig]

As long as GB gets insurance for Deng, there is nothing we can do about it.

 

[NealKleren]

I know that.But I'm just saying even before hes done this before and has missed more than 12 games before. Sure he didnt do that bad last year,but for once I would like Deng to play a whole season,idk just venting thats all.

 

[Shakes]

I think he has every right to play for his country. I know people will spin the injury risk as a negative, but the fact he wants to play during his off-season rather than taking a break is because he loves playing basketball and loves his country (which granted him political asylum).

Honestly can't be down on a guy for wanting to do that. And even if we could do something about it, it'd be stupid move to piss off one of your key players.

 

[NealKleren]

I agree.I think he should be able to play it just annoys me that he does since there is that injury risk if you guys understand what im saying.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

I think he has every right to play for his country. I know people will spin the injury risk as a negative, but the fact he wants to play during his off-season rather than taking a break is because he loves playing basketball and loves his country (which granted him political asylum).

Honestly can't be down on a guy for wanting to do that. And even if we could do something about it, it'd be stupid move to piss off one of your key players.

Shakes, I have no problem with him playing for his country but his body clearly can't handle it. All the years he has played for GB, he has followed it up with an injury year plagued year. The years he has done well, he has spent training. Its not like he sits on his ass if he doesn't play. He needs to add strength so he can take a full nba season.

 

[houheffna]

Since when did Deng's fragility cause him to miss games? He suffered injuries no different from others.

Again, did he not play in the playoffs last year? Was he not healthy? What strength does he need to build?

I am concerned about all players playing in the summer, including Rose, especially Rose. They choose to play, you hope for the best. Nothing wrong with a man playing for his country.

A lot of these players play basketball during the summer anyway.

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

Shakes wrote:

I think he has every right to play for his country. I know people will spin the injury risk as a negative, but the fact he wants to play during his off-season rather than taking a break is because he loves playing basketball and loves his country (which granted him political asylum).

Honestly can't be down on a guy for wanting to do that. And even if we could do something about it, it'd be stupid move to piss off one of your key players.

Shakes, I have no problem with him playing for his country but his body clearly can't handle it. All the years he has played for GB, he has followed it up with an injury year plagued year. The years he has done well, he has spent training. Its not like he sits on his ass if he doesn't play. He needs to add strength so he can take a full nba season.

I don't think there's really any evidence that his injuries are caused by playing for his country. AFAIK his injuries have been wrist, achilles tendon, stress fracture of the leg, and a hamstring. It's not like he's had the same injury over and over that might have been caused by not resting up during the off-season.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

TheStig wrote:

Shakes wrote:

I think he has every right to play for his country. I know people will spin the injury risk as a negative, but the fact he wants to play during his off-season rather than taking a break is because he loves playing basketball and loves his country (which granted him political asylum).

Honestly can't be down on a guy for wanting to do that. And even if we could do something about it, it'd be stupid move to piss off one of your key players.

Shakes, I have no problem with him playing for his country but his body clearly can't handle it. All the years he has played for GB, he has followed it up with an injury year plagued year. The years he has done well, he has spent training. Its not like he sits on his ass if he doesn't play. He needs to add strength so he can take a full nba season.

I don't think there's really any evidence that his injuries are caused by playing for his country. AFAIK his injuries have been wrist, achilles tendon, stress fracture of the leg, and a hamstring. It's not like he's had the same injury over and over that might have been caused by not resting up during the off-season.

Im not saying that Deng is injured in GB. I am saying it wears him down and when he plays for GB it leads to more injury problems during our season.

 

[Shakes]

Lets say we're a second round team this year. Our players will be playing around 100 games by the time you factor in pre-season games & the playoffs. I find it a bit of a stretch that playing half a dozen games for the national team is going to make much of a difference. That his least injured years were when he didn't play for the national team is likely just a coincidence.

(BTW I'd love to know where people are finding what games Deng has played for GB, a google search doesn't really turn up a decent source of international box scores or anything)

 

[TheStig]

He plays more than a half a dozen games for GB. There are also a ton of practices and other things involved. If I am so crazy in this line of thinking, why do deng's injury years coincide with the years he played for GB.

 

[Shakes]

Probably coincidence. I mean getting injured two years out of two is hardly a huge sample, given he also got injured two of his other four years. He got injured in his rookie year and he wasn't even a British citizen back then, let alone playing for the team. He also got injured last year, and he didn't play for GB during the off-season because his stress fracture was still healing.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes, I am not talking about him missing 12 games last year. I would consider that in the normal range. I am talking about when he gets close to the 15-20 game mark or more. The point that he missed more games in his two olympic years than the other four combined prove this. And its a pretty big margin at 52 to 37 considering the 52 is half the years of the 37. Clearly he doesn't hold up well in his olympic years. You have to admire his commitment to his country but really question his commitment to the team that made him vastly wealthy. I really don't see Deng playing much more than 60 games this year. Which is why I don't mind getting another guy capable of playing a bit of sf.

 

[Bullsman24]

getting back to his actual gameplay:

i wouldn't take much from this performance at all. i saw a box score somewhere, he scored i think 14 points off of free throws and only shot 30% from 2 point range. a player in the NBA is almost always good enough to score a decent amount if he is the go to scorer on a team. even kirk hinrich or james johnson could dominate on an international stage.

 

[NealKleren]

It could be coincidence but I think him in his Olympic years have put more of a tear on him during those years.Thats all im saying idk how the rest of this blew up,but either way thats what I think. Who knows but imo thats what I think.