Teams To Be In A Cap Situation Next Season

[IceHogsFan]

Okay, here's a question for all you stat and salary cap pro's;



What are the teams to have a major salary cap issue next season like the Hawks did this season? And for those teams bound to have issues are there players there that would be a fit for us?



Certainly there were teams that were hungry after our players for knowing that the cap issue was going to hit us hard.



Thoughts?

 

[the canadian dream]

I am not seeing many teams in cap situations next year. But there are a hell of a lot of UFA's and RFA's next season. Should be a veeeeeery bust Summer. Depends on what teams do with all their UFA's and RFA's. Really is a boat load of them. There will be a lot of new look teams next season.



Not that this answered your question. I am still looking around. But it looks like it will be a busy market this year. Exciting for hockey fans. Might not be exciting for Hawk fans seeing we don't have the money to get involved. But what it does do is it opens up space for a lot of teams to perhaps take some contracts off of us so we can get involved.



Who knows maybe Campbell will be a commodity for another team. Doubt it but hey you never know. And not like I want Campbell gone but cap space def needs to be cleared somehow.



Wings might actually have to spend some money on a goalie next year who knows. But they also get Lidstrom off the books (bet he comes back at 2 million though for the Wings).



No surprise the Flyers are probably going to be the team against the Cap the most next season. Figures that's why they are gunning for the cup this year adding Steeg and whoever they will next.



Sharks and Caps will be tight also. Esp the Caps.



Looks like the Lightening will be tight up against it also. Depending on what crazy contract Stamkos gets Tampa may be tight. Vinnys 10 mill a year is really looking bad for them although they do lose Gagnes 5 mill which can be put towards Stamkos and they do have a lot of cap space banked. But gotta fill a roster. Crazy Ohlunds contract there I just noticed it. 5.5 next year for Ohlund? hmmmm



But yah stunned to see all the UFA and RFA's Some really big names too.

 

[Pez68]

Flyers. Not a very strong free agent summer.

 

[the canadian dream]

Flyers. Not a very strong free agent summer.

For the Hawks? No it can't be unless there are contracts removed ie Campbell or Hossa. I am not really sold that anything really drastic has to be done though accept trim some fat and give the team a little regrouping. Not saying I wouldn't like for a contract to be removed but I don't think Hawks are in desperation mode. All be it we have some names to re-sign too so maybe we are a little desperate.



I have never been good with the cap stuff.



For the league? It's going to be busy. Esp for teams filling rosters. Besides the big names like Brad Richards the bulk of UFA's and RFAs are depth character players. Something we should all know by now are vital pieces.



Anyways I want David Koci back. He and Scott would make a deadly duo out there. Not sure why you couldn't just stack those two guys up infront of the goal like a pile of snow.

 

[chasman]

I think the Flames will be in deep shit, I believe they have over 50 mil in 11 players.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Good responses and exactly what I was looking for.



One of the advantages to the Hawks last year and even the previous year was the depth of players ready

to make the jump to the show from Rockford. It afforded us some great talent for a few years at a very

inexpensive cost and I do not see that coming out of Rockford for the next season or so.



Does it mean that other teams being in cap situations that are going to have problems affording players

like we did this season? It appears so and makes me wonder can we draw on a player or two willing to take

a lesser contract to be here with us (ie Turco)?

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

This is from http://www.capgeek.com that has the cap for teams in the 2011-2012 season as things stand right now: http://www.capgeek.com/charts_index.php?charts_year=2011

 

[MassHavoc]

This is from http://www.capgeek.com that has the cap for teams in the 2011-2012 season as things stand right now: http://www.capgeek.c...harts_year=2011

Looking at the last link I would say the Stars look to be in the best position. Biggest number of players signed next year already at a low cap bringing back the highest $/per slot remaining. For a very good winning team. They have the money this offseason to make a big run next year. (if not this year of course)

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

This reflects no cap increase for next season.

 

[BiscuitintheBasket]

Must be a hot topic today: http://committedindians.com/the-blackhawks-cap-situation-is-not-bad-for-2011-12/

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah the hawks just need to sign about 10 players for an average of 1.3 mil. Piece of cake.

 

[IceHogsFan]

Must be a hot topic today: http://committedindians.com/the-blackhawks-cap-situation-is-not-bad-for-2011-12/

Nice

 

[Ton]

Good responses and exactly what I was looking for.



One of the advantages to the Hawks last year and even the previous year was the depth of players ready

to make the jump to the show from Rockford. It afforded us some great talent for a few years at a very

inexpensive cost and I do not see that coming out of Rockford for the next season or so.



Does it mean that other teams being in cap situations that are going to have problems affording players

like we did this season? It appears so and makes me wonder can we draw on a player or two willing to take

a lesser contract to be here with us (ie Turco)?

You don't? Morin, Kruger (not in Rockford, but still important), Beach, Olimb, Smith, Pirri, Makarov, Klinkhammer all look like promising young forwards... Olsen, Lalonde, Connelly for d-men. Salak as goaltender.



Whats wrong with that? Next season I can see Morin, Olimb, and Klinkhammer with some time in Chicago, maybe even Beach, Kruger, or Makarov depending on how their summers go.

 

[IceHogsFan]

You don't? Morin, Kruger (not in Rockford, but still important), Beach, Olimb, Smith, Pirri, Makarov, Klinkhammer all look like promising young forwards... Olsen, Lalonde, Connelly for d-men. Salak as goaltender.



Whats wrong with that? Next season I can see Morin, Olimb, and Klinkhammer with some time in Chicago, maybe even Beach or Makarov depending on how their summers go.

I didn't say ever and I certainly did not imply that no one would be coming up. What was meant is that the team is struggling terribly in Rockford and the skill set needed to be up is not showing at the moment. There is a definite need of further growth by most of the players. Some of the players that I am enjoying and am most interested in seeing them move up are Morin, Olimb, Vishneskiy. Lalonde, Beach and a few others are still not there although sometimes we are surprised at the level of the game that appears from players once they get the call up. I am hopeful that Salak starts the season in Rockford before we decide that he is ready to be the backup in Chicago. I think that is very premature at this point although all things point in that direction for him.

 

[Larmer83]

Looking at the last link I would say the Stars look to be in the best position. Biggest number of players signed next year already at a low cap bringing back the highest $/per slot remaining. For a very good winning team. They have the money this offseason to make a big run next year. (if not this year of course)

Not the case. They have to make a decision on Brad Richards. He's a UFA this summer and this years cap hit is 7.8 million. Sign him and that space goes away. Let him go and the Stars are fucked.



Plus, this team has a self imposed cap due to the financial issues of the owner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hicks

In April 2010 Hicks’s company defaulted on $525-million in bank loans backed by the Stars and a 50-per-cent interest in the American Airlines Center.



BTW, the Stars are beginning to struggle.

 

[Ton]

I didn't say ever and I certainly did not imply that no one would be coming up. What was meant is that the team is struggling terribly in Rockford and the skill set needed to be up is not showing at the moment. There is a definite need of further growth by most of the players. Some of the players that I am enjoying and am most interested in seeing them move up are Morin, Olimb, Vishneskiy. Lalonde, Beach and a few others are still not there although sometimes we are surprised at the level of the game that appears from players once they get the call up. I am hopeful that Salak starts the season in Rockford before we decide that he is ready to be the backup in Chicago. I think that is very premature at this point although all things point in that direction for him.

Interesting, to be honest I was never too fond of him, but hey you are the one who gets to see them every game so I can't say you're wrong -- I'll have to pay closer attention to him next time. I don't think Lalonde or Beach are ready either. I think Salak will start the year in Rockford too, but he could certainly be with the Hawks by the end of the year.



Anyway, sorry to get side-tracked here, I think the Hawks cap situation probably isn't the most ideal but we can still make it work. There's no excuse, Stan should be fielding a competitive team next year without a doubt. The Sharks, Devils, and Canucks might have a problem. Flyers might have to make a trade or two just to get under and field a team.



The Oilers, Kings, and Preds are all in excellent position -- yes I know the Oilers suck but I guarantee they'll be better next year, they just need to learn how to win because the talent is there. The Stars are in good position as well, I don't think they will retain Richards, maybe its not a "great" thing but its not necessarily bad if he doesn't come back as long as they can grab another center on the market for cheaper. The Panthers are so far under the cap, wow... I wonder if DT is going to try and land a few big fish or keep developing within.

 

[dlrob315]

Yeah the hawks just need to sign about 10 players for an average of 1.3 mil. Piece of cake.

Or drop 3.5m from the 11 coming back and switch that to 11 players for an average of 1.7 mil. Still no piece of cake but a little better.