Terry Francona Should not be a Candidate and may not be

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Terry Francona Should not be a Candidate and may not be |

According to David Kaplan, Terry Francona should not be the next Cubs manager. An excellent baseball source told Kaplan than Epstein and Francona are not as close as many reports have mention. Many tweets went out yesterday saying Terry Francona is on Epstein’s and co. list of potential manager candidates. By saying if the Cubs did decide to hire Francona he would not need an interview.

Why would the Cubs want to hire Terry Francona? Don’t get me wrong, Francona did do magic with the Boston Red Sox. However, the last 2 years was anything but good. Definitely the end to the 2011 season where the Red Sox did not make the playoffs. The Red Sox had a big lead in the Wild Card until September hit. They posted a 7-20 record in September and the Tampa Bay Rays swoop in and stole the Wild Card crown from them. If the Red Sox just posted 1 more win in September…maybe Epstein and Francona would still be in Boston, but both are out now. As the Red Sox would have made the playoffs. After the season concluded, reports came out that Terry Francona lost the clubhouse. That doesn’t come as a surprise, but players drinking before games did and the use of pain killers. We don’t know if this is true or not, but would make sense if it is. So… I just don’t see Francona as a good fit right now.

Also, do we seriously want the Cubs to be the new Red Sox? If Terry Francona were to get hired, Epstein is bringing a lot of his former co-workers over. Theo Epstein will be back with Jed Hoyer, Jason McLeod and then Terry Francona. Also, maybe more could come over that we don’t know of right now. Theo Epstein said he wants the Cubs to have a new culture and that wouldn’t be doing so.

Ken Rosenthal has stated recently that the Cubs will not hire any current managers or Terry Francona. He has not said anything about the new news of Francona possibly being considered. Hopefully this holds up.

Cubs chairman and owner Tom Ricketts is not having a say in the first round of interviews. However, when Theo Epstein and co. is close to naming the Cubs next manager, Theo Epstein will be let in and voice his opinion. As of right now, that does not seem close.

I honestly don’t think the Cubs will hire Francona and I think Epstein will eventually do the ‘Ryne Sandberg’ treatment. By calling Terry Francona and saying he’s not a candidate for the Cubs position. That will also shut down the media reports of all Terry Francona.

Is it a good or bad move by sayin’ NO to Terry Francona?!
 

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I can't see Francona being hired here because I would think one of the reasons Theo took this job was to be known as "that guy" that turned around the Red Sox and the Cubs droughts. I know he brought over Hoyer and McLeod but he'll still be the hero. If he brings over Francona, he'll be a co-curse breaker.

This is just my opinion and I don't mean it negatively, in some businesses an ego is a good thing.
 

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Yeah I feel the same. Francona should not be with the Cubs.
 

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So Francona shouldn't be with the Cubs because it makes us like another team or takes credit away from Epstein?

Wow, just wow.

You go for the best out there to try to make the team the best it can be. You don't go "He was with Boston, I don't want him because I don't want us to be Boston."

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Yes... Francona is not what this team needs. I don't want the Cubs to be Boston jr. Keep it in the front office and that's it.
 

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Also, Francona is not the best. Not even cose.
 

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Yes... Francona is not what this team needs. I don't want the Cubs to be Boston jr. Keep it in the front office and that's it.

So you don't want anybody from Boston no matter how much they'll help the team because you don't want to be more like them?

Stupidity at its finest (not saying Francona is the best choice, but your logic is terrible).

It's about doing whatever it takes to win, not doing whatever it takes to not be like a team that has 2 World Championships in the last decade.
 

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I completely disagree... and that's all I want to say right now. Maybe I'll go in depth a little later, but have shit to do right now.
 

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if we end up with a guy like Mike Maddox we my well of just kept Quade and Quade was terrible. I want a guy with experience I would take Bobby Valentine over the candidate being named. Doubt he is interested.
 

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i wouldnt mind francona at all...hard to compare boston and the cubs especially at the present moment...and no one has brought up the argument about francona and theo's experience together....i dont think its bad to have a FO in which the members have a good understanding of the other

certainly we need a proven and competent manager(unlike quade)
 
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Let's put it this way...I don't want Francona on the Cubs. Everything else I say is just a reason for Francona not tocome to the Norh side.

Mike Maddux will be a good hire... We could see Greg Maddux as the pitching coach. I can se than happening. But Greg will be back with the cubs from reports I've read.
 

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Let's face it. None of us really know enough about most of these guys to say either way. This is especially true when you considere that part of the job is what goes on when no one is watching. Does a guy know a lot but at the same time, does he have a personality that wears on a team for 162 games. There's just too much that we don't have access to where a significant part of this job is concerned.

I'm not going to go setting anything on fire if they hire Francona but I'm also not convinced that he's the best guy out there. He might be but there's simply no way of knowing.
 

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Let's face it. None of us really know enough about most of these guys to say either way. This is especially true when you considere that part of the job is what goes on when no one is watching. Does a guy know a lot but at the same time, does he have a personality that wears on a team for 162 games. There's just too much that we don't have access to where a significant part of this job is concerned.

I'm not going to go setting anything on fire if they hire Francona but I'm also not convinced that he's the best guy out there. He might be but there's simply no way of knowing.

That's very true...I think most of us are going off of what the media says.
 

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Let's put it this way...I don't want Francona on the Cubs. Everything else I say is just a reason for Francona not tocome to the Norh side.

Mike Maddux will be a good hire... We could see Greg Maddux as the pitching coach. I can se than happening. But Greg will be back with the cubs from reports I've read.

Greg is only coming back part time at best. Probably not at all.

Maddux’ focus on daughter, not Cubs - DailyHerald.com
 

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