The Faux 2014 Bulls offseason/draft thead

[JosMin]

It's never too early to start dreamin' and believin'! Thought this would be a good spot for everyone to put their faux offseason wishlists, mock drafty-type things, etc.

ib4 SIGN MELO/**** GARPAX/KEEP TANKING LOLOLOL

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

PG: Robertson
SG: Jordan
SF: Lebron
PF: Duncan
C: Olajuwon

Sixth Man: Kukoc

 

[nwfisch]

PG: Robertson
SG: Jordan
SF: Lebron
PF: Duncan
C: Olajuwon

Sixth Man: Kukoc

Dude....where's Diaw?

 

[clonetrooper264]

Dude....where's Diaw?

And AK-47

 

[BNB]

This is what I can see happening

Amnesty Boozer.
Trade Dunleavy for a future whatever pick.

re-sign DJ Augustin

bring Nikola Mirotic over.

Draft SF Jerami Grant with the Bobcats pick.
Draft C Willie Cauley-Stein with our pick.

In free agency, sign Trevor Ariza and Jodie Meeks for shorter deals

Roster:

PG: Derrick Rose/ DJ Augustin
SG: Jimmy Butler/Jodie Meeks/Snell
SF: Trevor Ariza/Jerami Grant/Snell
PF: Taj Gibson/Nikola Mirotic
C: Noah/ Cauley-Stein


Sooo.... I see nothing big happening.

 

[The Hawk]

1. Amnesty Boozer

2. Trade Donlevy

3. Trade Hinrich

4. Sign Melo in FA

5. Re-sign Augustin

6. Sign Mirotic

7. Draft Saric with Charlotte pick

8. Draft Cauley-Stein with own pick

9. Draft the Ohio State guard(forget his name) with 2nd round pick.

Roster:
PG: Rose/ Augustin/ Ohio State draft pick
SG: Butler/Snell
SF: Anthony/ Saric
PF: Gibson/ Mirotic
C: Noah/ Cauley-Stein

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

1. Amnesty Boozer

2. Trade Donlevy

3. Trade Hinrich

4. Sign Melo in FA

5. Re-sign Augustin

6. Sign Mirotic

7. Draft Saric with Charlotte pick

8. Draft Cauley-Stein with own pick

9. Draft the Ohio State guard(forget his name) with 2nd round pick.

Roster:
PG: Rose/ Augustin/ Ohio State draft pick
SG: Butler/Snell
SF: Anthony/ Saric
PF: Gibson/ Mirotic
C: Noah/ Cauley-Stein

Thibs and Craft sounds like heaven

 

[Scoot26]

SIGN MELO/**** GARPAX/KEEP TANKING LOLOLOL

 

[nwfisch]

SIGN MELO/**** GARPAX/KEEP TANKING LOLOLOL

Quit being creepy.

Also sign JR Smith and Ben Gordon.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Please keep in mind I have no idea, or the ability to see if $$ matches up

1. Hinrich, Taj, Bobcats pick, Cleveland pick for Anthony

2. Amnesty Boozer

3. Bring over Mirotic

4. Aaron Gordon, PF Arizona 1st round

5. Lamar Patterson SG/SF Pittsburgh 2nd round

6. Resign Augustin

7. Sign Cole Aldrich.

8. Sign Andre Blatche

9. Bring back Ron Adams.

Rose/Augustine
Butler/Snell
Anthony/Dunleavy/Patterson
Mirotic/Blatche/Gordon
Noah/Blatche/Aldrich

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Note, I originally wanted James Young from Kentucky first round, but I figured we needed a Gordon to make everybody happy.

 

[JosMin]

I've been thinking about the whole Mirotic thing more and more and figured that this is our wild card for the off-season. AKA -- now that Phil is in New York, there's a 99.9% chance Melo is staying. I feel like the whole off-season is hinging on how much cap space Mirotic is going to end up eating up. This is kind of how I see our off-season unfolding.

Salaries on the books after end of 2013-14 season

Derrick Rose, PG $18,862,876
Carlos Boozer, PF $16,800,000
Joakim Noah, C $13,150,000
Taj Gibson, PF $8,000,000
Mike Dunleavy, SF $3,000,000
Tony Snell, SF $1,472,400
Jimmy Butler SG/SF $2,119,214

Total committed salary: $63,404,490

Bulls draft selections
Note: Using current pick positions

First-round, selection #16, Tyler Ennis, PG Syracuse (first year salary of $1,419,200)
First-round, selection #19 , PJ Hairston, SG NBA Development League by-way of North Carolina (first year salary of $1,223,200)
Second-round, selection #48, Patric Young, F/C Florida (non-guaranteed salary, $490,180)

Total committed salary after draft: $66,536,890
Roster commitments: 10 players

Free agency period activity


**Carlos Boozer is released VIA NBA's one-time amnesty provision. $16,800 salary commitment is removed from Bulls payroll
**Bulls agree to terms with Real Madrid F Nikola Mirotic on a 4-year, $36 million dollar deal
**Bulls agree to terms with former Lakers SG Jodie Meeks on a 3-year, $12 million dollar deal
**Bulls agree to terms with former Nuggets PG Aaron Brooks on a 2-year, $5.5 million dollar deal
**Bulls agree to terms with former Timberwolves PF Dante Cunningham on a 1-year, $1.8 million dollar deal

Bulls roster heading into 2014-15 season

Starters
C Joakim Noah
PF Taj Gibson
SF Nikola Mirotic
SG Jimmy Butler
PG Derrick Rose

Bench
PG: Aaron Brooks, Tyler Ennis
SG: Jodie Meeks, PJ Hairston
SF Mike Dunleavy, Tony Snell
PF: Dante Cunningham
C: Patric Martin

Total salary commitments: $67,286,890

This was a quick one I did on a break... would like a better frontcourt option off the bench. Butttttt, again, this was a quick run through. I just don't see the Bulls pulling the trigger on a massive trade. I think GarPax plays it safe in hopes of Rose returning to form, Noah maintaining what he's done this year, another mini-step from both Butler and Gibson and one of the rookies in Mirotic, Hairston and Ennis to make an impact. I still think this kind of offseason that potentially makes us a #2 in the East, definitely a solid option to get first-round homecourt. I just don't see the Heat losing Wade, Bosh or LeBron -- they're still the team to beat in the East.

 

[BNB]

I think we can get Mirotic for less than 8 million a year.

League sources say Mirotic would be looking for a deal in the $3 million-$4 million range. (He's no longer governed by the rookie scale, and the Bulls have planned for needing the bulk of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception of $5.3 million on him, sources say.) CBSSports.com

 

[Axl Rose]

Aaron Gordon is gonna suck

i'd like to trade our 2 picks to move up for LaVine or Harris

 

[JosMin]

I think we can get Mirotic for less than 8 million a year.

League sources say Mirotic would be looking for a deal in the $3 million-$4 million range. (He's no longer governed by the rookie scale, and the Bulls have planned for needing the bulk of their non-taxpayer mid-level exception of $5.3 million on him, sources say.) CBSSports.com

IIRC, part of his salary is going to need to include his buyout from Real Madrid. On top of that, Mirotic is making $4MM right now in Spain. It wouldn't make sense for him to take a paycut when he's the star of his team. I think the best case scenario would call for the entire MLE, including his buyout, but I think a number between 8 and 10 million is more likely because it'll have to include his buyout.

http://www.blogabull.com/2014/2/11/5401280/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-nba-free-agency-2014

 

[BNB]

IIRC, part of his salary is going to need to include his buyout from Real Madrid. On top of that, Mirotic is making $4MM right now in Spain. It wouldn't make sense for him to take a paycut when he's the star of his team. I think the best case scenario would call for the entire MLE, including his buyout, but I think a number between 8 and 10 million is more likely because it'll have to include his buyout.

http://www.blogabull.com/2014/2/11/5401280/nikola-mirotic-chicago-bulls-nba-free-agency-2014

I've never heard of the buyout being part of the contract. In the link you posted, they say that Mirotic will have to pay a large chunk of his buyout which means his annual salary could be close to 10 than 7 because it may take that much to convince to come here.

How it works, I think, is that an NBA team has a certain amount of money they can contribute to the buyout without it being part of the cap at all. If they go over that amount, it's taken out of the player's paycheck, which does count against the cap. Next season, we can pay 600k in the buyout without it affecting us. Everything after that, that the Bulls contribute, gets taken out of Mirotic's contract.

So let's say Mirotic negotiates a 2 million dollar buyout and the Bulls sign him to a 5 million dollar deal and they pay for the buyout. Mirotic would really make 3.6 million after the 1.4 million goes towards the buyout.

I think 3-4 million is too little as well, but I think we can get him for less than 8. 8 just seems like way too much for a guy who's never even played in an NBA game. I think 6 tops would do.

One thing to keep in mind... If the Bulls sign Mirotic to a 3-year 15 million dollar deal, that would be the richest first contract an international player has received in NBA history. So why would the Bulls go to 3-years 24-30 million?

 

[JosMin]

I've never heard of the buyout being part of the contract. In the link you posted, they say that Mirotic will have to pay a large chunk of his buyout which means his annual salary could be close to 10 than 7 because it may take that much to convince to come here.

How it works, I think, is that an NBA team has a certain amount of money they can contribute to the buyout without it being part of the cap at all. If they go over that amount, it's taken out of the player's paycheck, which does count against the cap. Next season, we can pay 600k in the buyout without it affecting us. Everything after that, that the Bulls contribute, gets taken out of Mirotic's contract.

So let's say Mirotic negotiates a 2 million dollar buyout and the Bulls sign him to a 5 million dollar deal and they pay for the buyout. Mirotic would really make 3.6 million after the 1.4 million goes towards the buyout.

I think 3-4 million is too little as well, but I think we can get him for less than 8. 8 just seems like way too much for a guy who's never even played in an NBA game. I think 6 tops would do.

One thing to keep in mind... If the Bulls sign Mirotic to a 3-year 15 million dollar deal, that would be the richest first contract an international player has received in NBA history. So why would the Bulls go to 3-years 24-30 million?

Because he's the best player in what's considered the second best league in the world. Trust me, I agree with you 100% that it's ludicrous to pay what equates to a rookie money that you play a quality role player in the NBA. We have no idea what Mirotic is going to offer, and I would feel much safer giving him something similar to a top-tier rookie scale deal, but in this situation he holds all the cards. He can call the Bulls bluff if they do end up using the AC on Boozer and request some outlandish salary, knowing that replacing his offense is paramount to this team, especially when you consider how inept they are on that end of the floor anyway. That could push the Bulls to over commit in a trade or offer some undeserving free agent a total overpay.

I'm interested to see what kind of contract and salary structure are offered. Balancing his buyout and salary are going to be interesting, in regards to a looming extension for a guy like Jimmy Butler. What if Butler takes a big step forward next year and approaches Deng territory and is suddenly looking for $12MM annually, when they have tons of money wrapped up in Rose, Noah, Gibson, and potentially Mirotic? Would the Bulls have to look to deal Butler after next year when he's a RFA? The Bulls future could get murky, that's why this offseason, in regards to the draft and how the balance their payroll is so important. We don't want a redo of the LeBron sweepstakes offseason where we end up log jamming a bunch of glorified role players onto a team and force three guys (Deng, Noah and Rose) to win it all when none of them were ready for that stage yet.

Jesus, I just hope we can hit a solid double with one of our first-rounders and Mirotic doesn't cost Jrue Holiday money.

 

[BNB]

Because he's the best player in what's considered the second best league in the world. Trust me, I agree with you 100% that it's ludicrous to pay what equates to a rookie money that you play a quality role player in the NBA. We have no idea what Mirotic is going to offer, and I would feel much safer giving him something similar to a top-tier rookie scale deal, but in this situation he holds all the cards. He can call the Bulls bluff if they do end up using the AC on Boozer and request some outlandish salary, knowing that replacing his offense is paramount to this team, especially when you consider how inept they are on that end of the floor anyway. That could push the Bulls to over commit in a trade or offer some undeserving free agent a total overpay.

I'm interested to see what kind of contract and salary structure are offered. Balancing his buyout and salary are going to be interesting, in regards to a looming extension for a guy like Jimmy Butler. What if Butler takes a big step forward next year and approaches Deng territory and is suddenly looking for $12MM annually, when they have tons of money wrapped up in Rose, Noah, Gibson, and potentially Mirotic? Would the Bulls have to look to deal Butler after next year when he's a RFA? The Bulls future could get murky, that's why this offseason, in regards to the draft and how the balance their payroll is so important. We don't want a redo of the LeBron sweepstakes offseason where we end up log jamming a bunch of glorified role players onto a team and force three guys (Deng, Noah and Rose) to win it all when none of them were ready for that stage yet.

Jesus, I just hope we can hit a solid double with one of our first-rounders and Mirotic doesn't cost Jrue Holiday money.

Well, one reason why I think Mirotic would definitely consider taking 5-6 million a year is the potential earnings in the future. If he does wind up being as good as advertised and averages, let's say 18/10, he could easily make 15+ million a year, more than he'll ever make in Europe which would make it worth it for him to take less on his initial contract. And even if he's average, like around 14/7, there is always going to be that team out there in the NBA that will offer a ridiculous contract for a big man. I mean, Channing Frye got north of 6 million a year after an 11/5 year just because he was a big man with range. If Mirotic blows, well at least he has comfort knowing that he can dominate in Europe and there will be a team out there, maybe Spain again, that'll give him his 4 million a year back.

And I think Butler is going to need a huge step forward to get a sizable contract extension. As it stands now, I don't think Butler would get more than 4-6 million on an extension. He has been way too inconsistent on offense.

But yeah... hopefully we don't **** ourselves with expensive contracts on players that aren't worth the money.

 

[czman]

It is a bit early for an off season thread. I would have to wait a bit before I came up with an offseason "plan".

I am not sure that Boozer will be amnestied. Right now I think it is more likely the Bulls keep him. We will see where things are when they get closer to the offseason.