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So what have you done if anything?



Did you panic like Jr. here because you really did not know what you were doing in the first place?





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Not really. I'm not a heavy investor. The really only large investment I have is my 401k, and more of that has to do with the fact that I opened it when I was 21 and less of the marrket climate year-to-year. Unless the market tanks over a period of a decade or more, I think I'll be fine when I retire.
 

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I increased my bond holdings from 10% to 30%. I left everything else where it is. I never panic sell but I realize I had 94% in stocks and it was time to up the bonds more.
 

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Let's just say the rumble in the jungle has played into me trying to re-fi my house this week.

Rates have jumped twice today.
 

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As long as I have a damn job im fine, I aint retiring anytime soon, i mean Ive only been out of school and in the workforce just a hair under 5 years.



Im so Lucky i had to join the real world when it all started going to shit.



I keep thinking if only I were 10 years older and could have thrived in the plentiful 90's, but then Id be 10 years older. id trade money for youth any day of the week.
 

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As long as I have a damn job im fine, I aint retiring anytime soon, i mean Ive only been out of school and in the workforce just a hair under 5 years.



Im so Lucky i had to join the real world when it all started going to shit.



I keep thinking if only I were 10 years older and could have thrived in the plentiful 90's, but then Id be 10 years older. id trade money for youth any day of the week.

The late 90s were a great time - my 401k ballooned, my tech stocks went up 400% in 1999 alone. But it was all just another balloon - the dot com era, which in March 2000 went dot bomb. But still it was the best years I can remember in this country. We had peace, a booming economy, and a great stock market.
 

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The late 90s were a great time - my 401k ballooned, my tech stocks went up 400% in 1999 alone. But it was all just another balloon - the dot com era, which in March 2000 went dot bomb. But still it was the best years I can remember in this country. We had peace, a booming economy, and a great stock market.



Thank you Bill Clinton?
 

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Thank you Bill Clinton?

Partially. I give him credit - I even voted for him twice and don't regret it. But I also credit the Republican House and Republican Senate that he had to work with and compromise with to pass legislation. It worked nicely - even with Clinton banging interns in the process. I would take Clinton in a heartbeat over Obama or even Bush for that matter. It's not that way today with this President and Congress.
 

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The late 90s were a great time - my 401k ballooned, my tech stocks went up 400% in 1999 alone. But it was all just another balloon - the dot com era, which in March 2000 went dot bomb. But still it was the best years I can remember in this country. We had peace, a booming economy, and a great stock market.



It was great for us too. Your dollar was worth like 1.50 Canadian and boy oh boy did you guys ever cross the line to spend spend spend...our hotels and restaurants were booming and packed. Your film industry was all over the place up here spending money filming. You were buying televisions, booze, cars and all sorts of goods up here and hell a lot of people were buying condos esp in Vancouver. And spend spend spend you all did.....it helped put us at a zero deficit for the first time in a very very long time. That's all gone now and we miss it even though some really love our dollar being stronger (I don't know why).





We Canadians really do owe you a lot for that time and for a lot of other times and for a lot of other reasons. I really hope you all can pull yourselves out of the current mess..and hey if it does help any Canadians are now crossing the line again to shop in the States. I know we aren't going to lift you out of your deficit but if there is a time where one should be promoting tourism to those outside of your own boarders it would be now. You want your money back right?
 

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It was great for us too. Your dollar was worth like 1.50 Canadian and boy oh boy did you guys ever cross the line to spend spend spend...our hotels and restaurants were booming and packed. Your film industry was all over the place up here spending money filming. You were buying televisions, booze, cars and all sorts of goods up here and hell a lot of people were buying condos esp in Vancouver. And spend spend spend you all did.....it helped put us at a zero deficit for the first time in a very very long time. That's all gone now and we miss it even though some really love our dollar being stronger (I don't know why).





We Canadians really do owe you a lot for that time and for a lot of other times and for a lot of other reasons. I really hope you all can pull yourselves out of the current mess..and hey if it does help any Canadians are now crossing the line again to shop in the States. I know we aren't going to lift you out of your deficit but if there is a time where one should be promoting tourism to those outside of your own boarders it would be now. You want your money back right?





the funny thing is, The bolded is a fact but why does shit still cost more canadian than US. Still (books are the most obvious) still cost more in canadian than US.





I dont really give a shit, as long as a motherfucker makes enough bank to live. Ive never had this "were better than everyone else" attitude.
 

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the funny thing is, The bolded is a fact but why does shit still cost more canadian than US. Still (books are the most obvious) still cost more in canadian than US.





I dont really give a shit, as long as a motherfucker makes enough bank to live. Ive never had this "were better than everyone else" attitude.



taxes (those hidden and those not) and our min wage is higher.
 

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I don't plan on retiring at the normal 60-65 years. I'll continue to work as long as I'm physically able.



The only big change I made as far as investments was liquidating my money market account when the interest rates crashed a couple years ago and putting it in a savings account. Everything else is pretty much the same; low-medium risk diversified/balanced mutual fund investing through my retirement annuity and IRA.



Best investment I've made in the last 10 years is my home, despite the hosing crash. The work we've put into the house has dramatically increased the equity we have.
 

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I don't plan on retiring at the normal 60-65 years. I'll continue to work as long as I'm physically able.



The only big change I made as far as investments was liquidating my money market account when the interest rates crashed a couple years ago and putting it in a savings account. Everything else is pretty much the same; low-medium risk diversified/balanced mutual fund investing through my retirement annuity and IRA.



Best investment I've made in the last 10 years is my home, despite the hosing crash. The work we've put into the house has dramatically increased the equity we have.

Careful with that - you're home is not an investment. You always will need someplace to live.
 

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the funny thing is, The bolded is a fact but why does shit still cost more canadian than US. Still (books are the most obvious) still cost more in canadian than US.





I dont really give a shit, as long as a motherfucker makes enough bank to live. Ive never had this "were better than everyone else" attitude.



We were/are the strongest (okay were) currency everyone wants to beat the top dog.
 

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Careful with that - you're home is not an investment. You always will need someplace to live.





No worries, Obama will provide a roof over my head and cake to eat.
 

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See? If everyone just lived hand to mouth all this wouldn't matter.
 

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Interesting article on the recent ups and downs of the market. Even better is the source, a guy who has made millions or even billions on the stock market, Mark Cuban.



http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201108/did-mark-cuban-predict-market-crash



It's been a year of vindication for Mark Cuban. The owner of the Dallas Mavericks quieted a lot of the critics who said he was a loudmouth who didn't know how to run a basketball franchise. Now his team is the best in basketball.



But Cuban is also proving somewhat prophetic in a much more unsettling way. In the spring of last year, only three days after the harrowing May 6 "Flash Crash" that temporarily plunged the Dow Jones Industrial Average more than 1,000 points within minutes, he wrote a blog post that seems chilling today. He titled it, "What Business is Wall Street In?" And toward the end, he wrote in bold, "There will be another crash."



Granted, there are a lot of doomsayers out there. But Cuban is not that. He's a successful businessman -- he sold his Internet start-up in 1999 for $5.9 billion in Yahoo! stock -- and he says he's been involved in the stock market for the better part of a decade. But what makes his post stand out even more is that he named a specific reason for the predicted "crash" -- professional traders.



"The only people who know what business Wall Street is in are the traders," Cuban wrote on May 9, 2010. "They know what business Wall Street is in better than everyone else. To traders, whether day traders or high frequency or somewhere in between, Wall Street has nothing to do with creating capital for businesses, its original goal. Wall Street is a platform. It's a platform to be exploited by every technological and intellectual means possible."



And more than a year later, a lot of Wall Street experts are blaming high frequency trading for this month's extreme stock market volatility. The swings are wild, to the tune of hundreds of Dow points within minutes, and "the machines" profiled last year by 60 Minutes are getting a lot of the blame.



Cuban went on to make another point, about how entire nations are now bought and sold within seconds and even nanoseconds:



"It’s hard to believe," he wrote, "but evaluating countries as an investment is now easier than evaluating companies."



Lo and behold, the current malaise on Wall Street is tied not to the earnings of public companies -- which are largely strong -- but to the debt load of national economies.



But Cuban came back again to the traders, who he called "hackers" because, he said, they look for weaknesses in the system to exploit for short-term gain.



"The Government needs to create incentives for this business," he wrote, "and extract compensation from the traders/hackers for the systemic failure level of risk they introduce."



He concluded again in bold text with a scary forecast that, although not completely unique to him, now looks more and more accurate:



"There will be another crash, because there are too many players looking for the trillion dollar score."



As of this writing, the Dow Jones sits at 10,719, within 200 points of the 10,520 price at the close of trading on May 6, 2010, the day of the Flash Crash. The Dow has dropped almost exactly 2,000 points in the last month.
 

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