The Penalty Kill

[Raskolnikov]

This penalty kill is the worst I have ever seen. Who did we trade off the team and what is the coaches name that is brutal?

What do we do?

How do we fix this?

Totally unacceptable and would have cost us the game if Crawford wasn't better than ever, and our team couldn't score like a little league team from Japan.

Never seen anything so pathetic, I thought the game was fixed until we won.

 

[ClydeLee]

Did you watch the Blackhawks in 2011? They had some pure garbage pk games and overall that year.

Washington is an elite PP, and 2 goals were off deflections directly in front. Letting guys open clean has been a consistent problem but effectiveness on pk is not

You don't make generalizations based on 1/82 vs the recent best.

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[Flacco4Prez]

Chill out

There was a lot of emotion in the game tonight I wouldn't take much from it. Usually the Cup winner comes out a lays an egg so a win is more than enought

 

[Diehardfan]

Ok, its just one game and Im sure the staff is gonna look at the game film and make some corrections. You can't totally give up the perimeter which the Hawks did alnight on the PK. On the 5 on 3, you pretty much have to but 5 on 4 you have to challenge the point and force them into decisions and into making a play. That's where they're gonna miss Frolik, he was able to get to the pointman and quick enough to recover afterwards.

 

[DMelt36]

 

[Raskolnikov]

People here last year will remember the PK started to fail us near the end of the playoffs, with Detroit and the Bruins. It was a topic of much hair pulling and frustration, and Frolik was the one energy guy that forced teams into trouble, so after the trade it was talked about again.

Then we come out and just stand there all night, giving up 3 goals of the 4 I believe. Committing lots of penalties, and not even trying to defend them, forcing Crawford to go hero mode and dehydrate and nearly collapse.

We could have easily given up 8 goals if not for him. So I realize its one game, but there is more into this than that and I have nothing else to be concerned about, so there you go.

How does everyone think Pirri played? I think that is the second biggest storyline for us, to justify the Bolland loss.

 

[Diehardfan]

People here last year will remember the PK started to fail us near the end of the playoffs, with Detroit and the Bruins. It was a topic of much hair pulling and frustration, and Frolik was the one energy guy that forced teams into trouble, so after the trade it was talked about again.

Then we come out and just stand there all night, giving up 3 goals of the 4 I believe. Committing lots of penalties, and not even trying to defend them, forcing Crawford to go hero mode and dehydrate and nearly collapse.

We could have easily given up 8 goals if not for him. So I realize its one game, but there is more into this than that and I have nothing else to be concerned about, so there you go.

How does everyone think Pirri played? I think that is the second biggest storyline for us, to justify the Bolland loss.

You'll either need a feed to the Rockford games or ask Icehog.

 

[Raskolnikov]

You'll either need a feed to the Rockford games or ask Icehog.

Oh yeah....I was just reading about that. I was looking for him last night, and it was a fruitless search, I thought maybe I didn't pay close enough attention flipping back and forth from MLB playoffs.

I missed this storyline? is he that small? or did he play poorly in pre-season? The guy has been an AHL star for two years, he can't develop there anymore if he is already the best. I want to see his creativity and passing with our third line.

 

[Diehardfan]

I think he got hurt and only played in one pre-season game and was pretty unremarkable. I'm sure he'll back when the injury bug hits.

 

[ClydeLee]

I only saw the highlights of the final preseason game.. And Pirri was on them making poor plays when the Caps we're scoring.

Though it's not permanent, remember Kruger was sent to Rockford to start a year in 2011 but pirri played a game or two before they were swapped. Could happen to Nordstrom, who looked well, if he makes mistakes like he did at the end of the game.

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[Raskolnikov]

One penalty..... one goal against. Jesus...they know they look clueless at PK right?

 

[DMelt36]

Yeah, still not freaking out about this, when less than 2.5 percent of the season schedule has been completed.

 

[DMelt36]

And I'm sorry but I don't recall the Hawks PK "started to fail near the end of the playoffs."

This handy statistic here says the Hawks had the 3rd best PK in the postseason, and the two teams in front of it played only a handful of games: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20122013&gameType=3&viewName=penaltyKill#

The Hawks gave up ONE power play goal in the 7-game series with Detroit, by the way. 23/24, which is roughly 95 percent.

 

[Raskolnikov]

And I'm sorry but I don't recall the Hawks PK "started to fail near the end of the playoffs."

This handy statistic here says the Hawks had the 3rd best PK in the postseason, and the two teams in front of it played only a handful of games: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20122013&gameType=3&viewName=penaltyKill#

The Hawks gave up ONE power play goal in the 7-game series with Detroit, by the way. 23/24, which is roughly 95 percent.

I think it was the Kings series we started to falter, with the exception of Frolik who would go max out effort. Remember, Crawford covered up some penalties against the Caps, where the defense wasn't even trying.

 

[DMelt36]

First two games weren't good. But when you take two of the team's top PKers off the roster (Frolik and Bolland), there's bound to be some growing pains, especially when one of those guys is new to the NHL (Nordstrom). Don't know if he's been out there yet, but Ben Smith, I'd read, was real good on the PK down in Rockford. I'd like to see what he can do on the kill, as long as Q actually puts him in the lineup.

 

[Raskolnikov]

It was better in game 3, killing 4 of 5 penalties, while our own power play was deadly.

 

[Raskolnikov]

Still horrendous at PP, crawford is a freak

 

[DMelt36]

I want to say that I'm developing small concerns about the PK's continued struggles.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I want to say that I'm developing small concerns about the PK's continued struggles.

lol.....I just don't like the way they look playing it. It looks like they either don't understand the strategy, or its a terrible strategy. The energy is bad. The play is bad and indecisive. I have never seen such a good team be this bad at it, clueless really. Like they don't know they need energy on it to kill it.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I want to say that I'm developing small concerns about the PK's continued struggles.

Are they full on concerns yet? I mean.....10 games in only, but last in the league? Dead last?

Unfortunately that IS a statistically significant number. Strong enough data over enough games to be highly significant from a pure numbers standpoint.


Of course we can improve, and all that matters is playoffs for us because we are that bad ass. However, a long road up hill to fix this. Its bad. 3rd last year, to dead last. And if there were twenty more teams, we would still be dead last. We are that bad, and that pathetic. Its like we don't even play shorthanded, just stand there and watch. wtf?