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Every decade we see teams moving around...

The Kansas City Kings became the Sacramento Kings,

The San Diego Clippers became the Los Angeles Clippers.

The Vancouver Grizzlies went to Memphis, the Hornets to New Orleans...

These moves came about for a plethora of reasons (corrupt ownership, lack of revenue, a depleted fanbase,etc.) but the fact is, every decade we see at least two teams leaving a city and starting over where fans are perhaps, more enthusiastic and not restless as they were in their original city.

My question is...in 10 years which 2 teams do you see moving? What about contraction?

As much as I hate to say this, I feel I must...

If Jerry Reinsdorf and his yes man, John Paxson run this team much longer where else could this team go but lower and lower and yet still, even lower?

The Bulls are a historical franchise in the NBA but if you think the Bulls are immune from being re-located, take a look at the locker room, folks.

Michael Jordan ain't walkin' through that door. Scottie Pippen and Ho Grant ain't walking through that door. Phil Jackson ain't walkin' through that door.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. I want to see the Bulls get a squad together and win 2 or 3 more chips. All I'm saying is...it could happen.

When John Salmons is your best player you have reason to be nervous. When the team gets rid of instant offense relief from the bench like Tim Thomas and brings in Jannaero Pargo and all these 10th-tier guys you've never heard of the future is very polluted and bleak.

Would it really surprise any of you if in 5 years the Chicago Bulls packed up all their stuff and left Dodge and went to Seattle or St. Louis?
 

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Jerry would never ever do that and your crazy to think so. He makes insane money even during horrid seasons (99-03). Jerry would also never do this because he would fear the backlash from fans who would most likely boycott the Whitesox.
 

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We are one of the most profitable teams in the league in one of the biggest markets. So no.

Take a look at the cities that the teams moved from and it will answer your question.
 
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Fair points, but when it comes to the big bucks and financial security, how can it really be trusted?

In this economic climate?

At one time Mike Tyson was sitting on 300 million.

Where's it at now?

I've seen guys lose millions because of one bad decision...

Where's the money then?
 

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Until Chicago goes downhill like Detroit, I don't see the Bulls moving. And it's not even a given that they'd move if that happens. (See the Pistons).

I would think that the Bucks and Bobcats are the two teams most likely to move.
 

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yeah, cuz we're gonna leave the third biggest market in the whole league...
 

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Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:
Fair points, but when it comes to the big bucks and financial security, how can it really be trusted?

In this economic climate?

At one time Mike Tyson was sitting on 300 million.

Where's it at now?

I've seen guys lose millions because of one bad decision...

Where's the money then?

what are you high?
 

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Bulls will never move. Only Chicago teams to ever move were the Cardinals in the NFL, but we had the Bears too at the time & the Chicago Zephyrs, early NBA team eventually became the Wizards. Quite simply, Chicago teams don't move. Chicago teams dissolve & disband. The owner that moved a team would be committing financial suicide. If you can't thrive in the 3rd largest market in the US, 25th most populous city in the world, then you're gonna have trouble succeeding anywhere.
 

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Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:
Every decade we see teams moving around...

The Kansas City Kings became the Sacramento Kings,

The San Diego Clippers became the Los Angeles Clippers.

The Vancouver Grizzlies went to Memphis, the Hornets to New Orleans...

These moves came about for a plethora of reasons (corrupt ownership, lack of revenue, a depleted fanbase,etc.) but the fact is, every decade we see at least two teams leaving a city and starting over where fans are perhaps, more enthusiastic and not restless as they were in their original city.

My question is...in 10 years which 2 teams do you see moving? What about contraction?

As much as I hate to say this, I feel I must...

If Jerry Reinsdorf and his yes man, John Paxson run this team much longer where else could this team go but lower and lower and yet still, even lower?

The Bulls are a historical franchise in the NBA but if you think the Bulls are immune from being re-located, take a look at the locker room, folks.

Michael Jordan ain't walkin' through that door. Scottie Pippen and Ho Grant ain't walking through that door. Phil Jackson ain't walkin' through that door.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. I want to see the Bulls get a squad together and win 2 or 3 more chips. All I'm saying is...it could happen.

When John Salmons is your best player you have reason to be nervous. When the team gets rid of instant offense relief from the bench like Tim Thomas and brings in Jannaero Pargo and all these 10th-tier guys you've never heard of the future is very polluted and bleak.

Would it really surprise any of you if in 5 years the Chicago Bulls packed up all their stuff and left Dodge and went to Seattle or St. Louis?

This may be the most Special person post ever. I don't know if you have been to Chicago in a while, but its a rather large city. Third biggest market in the US. Way back when, alot of big market teams moved because the NBA wasnt big yet. Look at the teams that have moved in the last 20 years. No major market team has left. The Bulls could suck for the next 30 years and they won't move.
 
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mlewinth wrote:
Would it really surprise any of you if in 5 years the Chicago Bulls packed up all their stuff and left Dodge and went to Seattle or St. Louis?[/quote]

This may be the most Special person post ever. I don't know if you have been to Chicago in a while, but its a rather large city. Third biggest market in the US. Way back when, alot of big market teams moved because the NBA wasnt big yet. Look at the teams that have moved in the last 20 years. No major market team has left. The Bulls could suck for the next 30 years and they won't move.[/quote]

I'll take that as a no. I was just wondering...

Nope...i'm not high and i'm not Special person. Just was wondering what everyone thought.

Hopefully the Bulls will be here to stay.
 

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Frank Breakfast-Styleham wrote:
mlewinth wrote:
Would it really surprise any of you if in 5 years the Chicago Bulls packed up all their stuff and left Dodge and went to Seattle or St. Louis?

This may be the most Special person post ever. I don't know if you have been to Chicago in a while, but its a rather large city. Third biggest market in the US. Way back when, alot of big market teams moved because the NBA wasnt big yet. Look at the teams that have moved in the last 20 years. No major market team has left. The Bulls could suck for the next 30 years and they won't move.[/quote]

I'll take that as a no. I was just wondering...

Nope...i'm not high and i'm not Special person. Just was wondering what everyone thought.

Hopefully the Bulls will be here to stay.[/quote]

Don't think you have much to worry about in our lifetimes. I realize the loss of BG has everyone very jaded right now and thinking crazy stuff. Though the heart of our team is gone, the team will remain! :)
 

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The Kings could be back on the move again, if they can't get funding for a new stadium, could move back to Kansas City or end up in St. Louis

Depending on the stadium situation, the Nets could also be on the move.

The Pacers could be moved as well
 
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All I'm saying is...if the Bulls have 4-6 consexutive losing seasons i dont think the banners themselves could prevent the Bulls from leaving Dodge.

Losing seasons= No one coming to games.
 

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i want you to do something. look at the 1999-2005 seasons. look at how many people coming to games. then i'll let you think about this again.
 

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you'd move a crappy team to a new city because the new city might offer either a better market or some sort of other incentive.

the bulls wont find a better a market. i doubt such incentives exist that could persuade the team to move to a worse market.

there is no more debate to this .
the reason we are appaulled by the fact you brought this up, is because it's tantamount to asking, "if santa claus existed".
 
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pinkizdead wrote:
you'd move a crappy team to a new city because the new city might offer either a better market or some sort of other incentive.

the bulls wont find a better a market. i doubt such incentives exist that could persuade the team to move to a worse market.

there is no more debate to this .
the reason we are appaulled by the fact you brought this up, is because it's tantamount to asking, "if santa claus existed".

Yeah...ya'll are probably right. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about.
 

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