Unemployment

[Capt. Serious]

Anyone else here unemployed like me?

I've tried my ass off to get a job & no dice.

 

[DewsSox79]

Anyone else here unemployed like me?

I've tried my ass off to get a job & no dice.

what is your bakround? how old are you? etc etc....i can give you some advice.

 

[JCM]

i couldn't find a job for quite some time this year. luckily i got one right now.

 

[Crystallas]

I'm not drawing unemployment, but I'm technically unemployed. All I do is "free lance" technical/development work to break even, and occasionally an old boss calls me up to run a workshop for Six Sigma or Physical Security. I don't want to be an outside consultant forever, but this is slowly becoming a temp-staff nation in so many fields.

 

[Scoot26]

I'm not drawing unemployment, but I'm technically unemployed. All I do is "free lance" technical/development work to break even, and occasionally an old boss calls me up to run a workshop for Six Sigma or Physical Security. I don't want to be an outside consultant forever, but this is slowly becoming a temp-staff nation in so many fields.

I've been looking for full-time work for well over a year, though I'll admit I've basically done nothing the past 5 months except apply to a couple of jobs. Today I started researching temp-staff agencies to get a feel for what they are offering and such ( I have looked at them before, just not for awhile)...I am curious as to why this nation is becoming a temp-staff nation? What are you thoughts to that?

And to address this thread's topic and the starter of this thread, JoeHawks: Wish I could help you, but sorry, I cant.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Ive been in and out of some small shit for 3 years..

I continually have 30-50 apps out a month..

Yeah.. This shit blows.

 

[Crystallas]

.I am curious as to why this nation is becoming a temp-staff nation? What are you thoughts to that?

Well, first off, I don't like the growth of temp-staffing in this country, as well as many others. There needs to be a natural balance that allows use of temps, as a gateway between business growth, and quick manpower. Temp associates being a permanent means of staying staffed, and moving to this means of business uncovers a lot of problems that lie with both government and private business alike.

How do you get around offering and paying for employees benefits? Well, you can delay their hiring and benefit enrollment dates on the average of 6 months, if that's what you want to do.

How do you work around a large set of liabilities with new employees?
How do you minimize the risk of a non-union workforce, unionizing?
How do you retain rights, to terminate bad associates with the least amount of in-house paperwork?
How do you save money on human resources and headhunting?

On paper, temp-staffing solutions are ground-level solutions for nearly every production based business. And production is the only way to make money, every other service is just a way to enhance the value of production.

In the real world, temp-solutions are just a means of inflating the value of the production. There is a much smaller ROI on temps, but in today's America, litigation and regulation are such extreme costs to both small and large businesses, temps become a safe solution, more than the BEST solution.

The issue is much more complex than that, so I did miss a a lot of points. It's easy to hate the solution, when it's more about greater problems outside of most industries control.

 

[Scoot26]

Well, first off, I don't like the growth of temp-staffing in this country, as well as many others. There needs to be a natural balance that allows use of temps, as a gateway between business growth, and quick manpower. Temp associates being a permanent means of staying staffed, and moving to this means of business uncovers a lot of problems that lie with both government and private business alike.

How do you get around offering and paying for employees benefits? Well, you can delay their hiring and benefit enrollment dates on the average of 6 months, if that's what you want to do.

How do you work around a large set of liabilities with new employees?
How do you minimize the risk of a non-union workforce, unionizing?
How do you retain rights, to terminate bad associates with the least amount of in-house paperwork?
How do you save money on human resources and headhunting?

On paper, temp-staffing solutions are ground-level solutions for nearly every production based business. And production is the only way to make money, every other service is just a way to enhance the value of production.

In the real world, temp-solutions are just a means of inflating the value of the production. There is a much smaller ROI on temps, but in today's America, litigation and regulation are such extreme costs to both small and large businesses, temps become a safe solution, more than the BEST solution.

The issue is much more complex than that, so I did miss a a lot of points. It's easy to hate the solution, when it's more about greater problems outside of most industries control.

I have noticed the growth of temp-staffing, and how more companies are use it as a go around to cut their costs elsewhere. I'll agree the solution is much more complex than what you just stated. I would have more to say..but havent got the time right now.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

Hold your politicians accountable

(202) 225-4000

John Boehner's DC office.. Call and ask where the jobs are.

 

[Crystallas]

LOL

Contrary to popular belief, when politicians try to create jobs, more are lost. And this isn't an attack on politicians, it's just a misconception on how economics work.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

LOL

Contrary to popular belief, when politicians try to create jobs, more are lost. And this isn't an attack on politicians, it's just a misconception on how economics work.

Yeah its more of a joke. :tongue:

Maybe some businesses in the private sector need to stop hoarding profits and start employing people.. Then the fed wouldn't have to take steps to try and "boost" the economy all the time.

 

[Scoot26]

Yeah its more of a joke. :tongue:

Maybe some businesses in the private sector need to stop hoarding profits and start employing people.. Then the fed wouldn't have to take steps to try and "boost" the economy all the time.

I have read somewhere that alot of corporations are just sitting on hordes of cash doing absolutely nothing with it (not even giving it to themselves). I'm just curious as to what they are waiting for?

And what the Fed does doesnt really boost the economy it just makes the stock market go up giving an allusion to an boost in the economy. I mean all my stocks are up big today, but doesnt mean jobs are opening up everywhere.

 

[Crystallas]

Yeah its more of a joke. :tongue:

Maybe some businesses in the private sector need to stop hoarding profits and start employing people.. Then the fed wouldn't have to take steps to try and "boost" the economy all the time.

Yeah, sure. I know it's not a joke. My issue is that people read these stray comments, and take it as some sort of truth LOL! And guess what, those gullible morons, are the same people pressured to vote

The FED doesn't help either, but then, I'll stay out of that, as I think Keynesian theories are 99% fail.

 

[cubsneedmiracle]

It is more of a joke.. Just to see who would actually even try it..

Anyone that even calls their local politicians to complain about jobs.. or anything for that matter usually just get laughed at.

 

[Crystallas]

I have read somewhere that alot of corporations are just sitting on hordes of cash doing absolutely nothing with it (not even giving it to themselves). I'm just curious as to what they are waiting for?

Liability. 200 million of 1 product set, sells over 10 years. 5 kids get injured. The mass-media makes a set of scare-stories for whatever reason. Regulatory agencies mandate changes, the company that makes that set of products is pressured to recall the items.
So because 5 kids get injured, how many thousands lose their job? How many of the kids, of those parents who lost their job, are now being neglected?
I'm not debating or arguing with you, but I can certainly understand why some of these tycoons, sit on their money.
Hell, if I had top 2% money, I wouldn't want to grow my business either, unless I was in some kind of business where liability was minimal.

And what the Fed does doesnt really boost the economy it just makes the stock market go up giving an allusion to an boost in the economy. I mean all my stocks are up big today, but doesnt mean jobs are opening up everywhere.

There is a lot of truth in this statement. It's all covered up by inflation, and maxing out on the movement of micro-transactions before adjustments.

 

[Scoot26]

Liability. 200 million of 1 product set, sells over 10 years. 5 kids get injured. The mass-media makes a set of scare-stories for whatever reason. Regulatory agencies mandate changes, the company that makes that set of products is pressured to recall the items.
So because 5 kids get injured, how many thousands lose their job? How many of the kids, of those parents who lost their job, are now being neglected?
I'm not debating or arguing with you, but I can certainly understand why some of these tycoons, sit on their money.

Maybe, but I think thats kinda overblown. I understand the media over-reacts to everything and that causes regulatory agencies to over-react, but most big corporations that are sitting on cash, can make more in the long run by investing it in the company other than just watching the money accumulate and sit there. Though I can certainly understand why some do do it. I agree to an extent.

To me its the same type of thinking of those who think they are saving money by constantly refinancing their mortgages instead of just paying it off because they want a small tax write-off. You will keep more of your own money over time by not having to pay a mortgage than having a tax write off for it every year.

 

[Crystallas]

The media overblows only a small part. You also have compliance. Compliance is expensive and the media does not have enough SMEs(subject matter expert)to do compliance stories, in terms that the average person would understand.
IE: I have my 10 year old business. New regulations say that my company needs to do X, Y, and Z. But in 10 years I have zero complains, accidents, ect. It will cost me 1 years worth of profit to be within compliance, during a time where I'm not sure if I can survive 1 year of bad business.
The media may choose to run a report in favor of the business, but not many businesses want that kind of attention. It backfires!

It's a loop between Liability, Expendability, and Compliance. There is nothing more to it, than that. We can manipulate liability and dictate compliance, but we can't control expendability, which leads to uncertainty. If you're caught in this loop, you will liquidate. It's true for big business, small business, and everyday people.

I only knew a few people who refinance mortgages often. But they only do so, because the banks were selling off loans, and changing terms with the end users. I don't know anyone who does it, just to save a quick buck. I might be lost on that connection.

 

[Scoot26]

The media overblows only a small part. You also have compliance. Compliance is expensive and the media does not have enough SMEs(subject matter expert)to do compliance stories, in terms that the average person would understand.
IE: I have my 10 year old business. New regulations say that my company needs to do X, Y, and Z. But in 10 years I have zero complains, accidents, ect. It will cost me 1 years worth of profit to be within compliance, during a time where I'm not sure if I can survive 1 year of bad business.
The media may choose to run a report in favor of the business, but not many businesses want that kind of attention. It backfires!

It's a loop between Liability, Expendability, and Compliance. There is nothing more to it, than that. We can manipulate liability and dictate compliance, but we can't control expendability, which leads to uncertainty. If you're caught in this loop, you will liquidate. It's true for big business, small business, and everyday people.

I understand your point, and really have nothing else to say because while I do think some regulations are necessary, I can see your point on this.

I only knew a few people who refinance mortgages often. But they only do so, because the banks were selling off loans, and changing terms with the end users. I don't know anyone who does it, just to save a quick buck. I might be lost on that connection.

I know of a few that do (People I work with). They are the type of Americans that do anything at all possible to lower their tax bill..even if they end up spending more of their money.

 

[Crystallas]

I understand your point, and really have nothing else to say because while I do think some regulations are necessary, I can see your point on this.

I hope that any previous discussions didn't give you the impression that I'm against regulations as a whole. Rules and regulations are necessary, just never in favor of special interest(my opinion).

 

[Scoot26]

I hope that any previous discussions didn't give you the impression that I'm against regulations as a whole. Rules and regulations are necessary, just never in favor of special interest(my opinion).

Oh yeah..definitely agree there.