What should the Cubs do about Ramirez?

[Lex L.]

Im going to hold off on adding a poll.

The Cubs are in a little bit of a precarious position with Aramis. Ive heard that Aramis says he's not big on rebuilding.

So, what should we do with him? Should we trade him? What would you want in return? Should we let the season play out and hope for the best?

Im not really big on trading him. Hes one of the most clutch Cubs I can remember. He ranks up there with Sandberg. And he plays a position that the Cubs tried to fill for many years. So, if they trade him, Id expect a bat in return and something big...not more prospects. Id like to maybe work out a deal that brings Adrian Gonzalez here but that might need a 3rd team because of Ramirez's salary.

So, what should the Cubs do about Ramirez?

 

[Captain Obvious]

We keep him.

 

[Northside_slugger]

No clue what they can get for him. He's injury prone and costs A LOT of money. Not sure if teams will be interested in him. Nobody was interested in Derrick Lee until this past year because it was a contract year. I think by trading Ramirez, they will need to eat up a bunch of money and also take a discount on what they get in return.

I wouldn't give him away for free. But, if a deal came, where Cubs can get some decent prospects, i would do it.

If not, keep him and ride out his contract.

 

[Lex L.]

We keep him.

Only for the year or do you mean try to resign him?

 

[Captain Obvious]

No clue what they can get for him. He's injury prone and costs A LOT of money. Not sure if teams will be interested in him. Nobody was interested in Derrick Lee until this past year because it was a contract year. I think by trading Ramirez, they will need to eat up a bunch of money and also take a discount on what they get in return.

I wouldn't give him away for free. But, if a deal came, where Cubs can get some decent prospects, i would do it.

If not, keep him and ride out his contract.

A) He doesn't cost a lot of money for the production he puts out.

B) Derrek.

C) That's not true, we weren't shopping him until this year.

D) Your logic makes no sense.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Only for the year or do you mean try to resign him?

Resign him, ideally. I'd let him stay till 2014 or so.

 

[Lex L.]

A) He doesn't cost a lot of money for the production he puts out.

B) Derrek.

C) That's not true, we weren't shopping him until this year.

D) Your logic makes no sense.

I agree with this. Ramirez has high impact at bats. He may hit .279 but but he produces like a .350 hitter. He has some of the most high impact at bats in baseball.

Ive heard the Red Sox want him. If the Red Sox could help us land Adrian Gonzalez, I would do it. But then again, if we can keep Aramis and sign Dunn, we might still be better off since we wouldnt have a hole at 3B, which is a tough position to fill.

 

[bobferg]

Aram is a bum. I tried to get his autograph at spring training in 08 and he pretended he didn't speak english. Sorry dude, I have heard you many times on post game interviews... that stuff wont work on me. I don't think lazy players have any spot on a rebuilding team.

But on the other hand he is the only real offensive weapon the Cubs have at the moment.

I get the feeling that he will be heading somewhere at the trade deadline.

 

[Jntg4]

I'd just try to keep him until say Vitters or Maquez Snith can come up.

 

[Derkach77]

Give Rami one more year but he doesn't have 3 left that's for sure.

 

[poodski]

I certainly wouldn't extend him mid season.

 

[kleenexbox]

Resign him, ideally. I'd let him stay till 2014 or so.

Are you nuts? He is already terrible at defense and it's only going to get worse. Aramis is terribly injury prone as well, I'd hold off giving him a 3 year extension.

 

[Northside_slugger]

Resign him, ideally. I'd let him stay till 2014 or so.

According to Bruce Levine the Cubs will try to trade him this winter, although it will be tough with him having a no trade clause but Cubs would be happy about playing Blake DeWitt at 3B and signing a stopgap for 2B (Orlando Hudson?).

 

[poodski]

According to Bruce Levine the Cubs will try to trade him this winter, although it will be tough with him having a no trade clause but Cubs would be happy about playing Blake DeWitt at 3B and signing a stopgap for 2B (Orlando Hudson?).

God next season is going to be even more depressing.

 

[poodski]

Are you nuts? He is already terrible at defense and it's only going to get worse. Aramis is terribly injury prone as well, I'd hold off giving him a 3 year extension.

Yeah I would consider it in like August or something if he is doing well, but as bad as he was this season there isn't a shot I would give him an extension right now.

Unless it was like 3 years at 3 million per.

Then I probably would.

 

[Lex L.]

According to Bruce Levine the Cubs will try to trade him this winter, although it will be tough with him having a no trade clause but Cubs would be happy about playing Blake DeWitt at 3B and signing a stopgap for 2B (Orlando Hudson?).

I just threw up in my mouth. Classic Hendry nonsense.

 

[poodski]

I just threw up in my mouth. Classic Hendry nonsense.

If you think that is Hendry's nonsense you are crazy. Why would a guy fighting for his life be trying to trade their best hitter coming off a terrible season?

This is pretty obviously either A) made up or B) coming from above him to cut costs.

 

[Northside_slugger]

If you think that is Hendry's nonsense you are crazy. Why would a guy fighting for his life be trying to trade their best hitter coming off a terrible season?

This is pretty obviously either A) made up or B) coming from above him to cut costs.

Or C) They don't feel the need to keep an unmotivated player around a rebuilding team.

Lex said in the first post, that Ramirez was not too happy about rebuilding.... i don't blame him but we've all seen what a careless Ramirez can do, and it's brutal.

 

[Bears are #1]

A) He doesn't cost a lot of money for the production he puts out.

B) Derrek.

C) That's not true, we weren't shopping him until this year.

D) Your logic makes no sense.

He wasn't hitting that great last year except for a month or so and everything i hear is he doesn't like to go out ot the cages and work on his swing he has to realize that he is 31 i think, he is going to start losing some bat speed and he has to realize he has to work hard to keep his play at the level it has been for awhile. He was also a defensive liability last year he was one of the highest in the NL with errors at his position out of starters. Now while it could have just been an off year for him it is still a little distrubing to see him take a complete nose dive like he did.

 

[Bears are #1]

I just threw up in my mouth. Classic Hendry nonsense.

Now while i don't think Hendry is great at his job he isn't bad i mean since the year they had made the world series what was that 1949 the cubs made the playoffs twice (pretty bad). since Hendry took over which was like late 90s 2000s region they cubs have been to playoffs three to four times that is pretty good increase from what it was. He also has not made to many bad signings either obviously Bradley was a major screw up every GM has one of them. Soriano he has produced excpet for last year when he was battling injury all year except for the first two months and he was on pace to have a really good year. Ted Lilly that was a great signing. Kevin Gregg wasn't great but he could have been a whole lot worse. Made the Derrick Lee signing. He also made the Aram trade go.