what would you do if you found out after years your kids werent yours?

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Woman marries the biological father, non-bio father still court ordered to pay child support.



This is an old story but I was discussing these situations with a female friend of mine recently and un-surprisingly this is something women have a very different outlook on than men. She see's nothing wrong with that, and doesn't understand men's anger, its your kid. Like men can't go through abortion, technically, women would naturally never have a situation where they have a baby that unknowingly isn't theirs.



I think from a male perspective, it is more of a biological thing and an extreme level of humiliation. I mean its one thing a spouse cheating, its a whole next level when you have a child you know may not be theirs and dont reveal it.



There was another story I read where the guy and his wife had 4 kids, he caught her cheating, got divorced and found out all but the youngest were not his, and it turns out the guy he caught her cheating with and she subsequently married was the father of the other 3, so he had been puttin his buns in her oven for years all for this guy to raise.



below was a study done in the US. I watched a documentary where apparently the worldwide rates are estimated to be even worse, that suggested biologically women look for different men for making, then raising a child.



[font=Georgia, serif]And then there are those who never even discover the biological truth. How many fall in that category is impossible to quantify. The most extensive and authoritative report, published in Current Anthropology in 2006, analyzed scores of genetic studies. The report concluded that 2 percent of men with “high paternity confidence” — married men who had every reason to believe they were their children’s father — were, in fact, not biological parents. Several studies indicate that the rate appears to be far higher among unmarried fathers.[/font]



So what would you do if you found out your kid wasnt yours?
 

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Regarding your first thought about how a woman would feel in this situation, don't forget the stories about women that were given the wrong baby at the hospital back in the day. What if that woman raised that child for 15 years then found out her baby had been switched in the nursery at the hospital.



As a guy, I would be pissed off if I learned that my wife had lied to me all those years. But I would find it very hard to walk away from a kid that I raised. It is not their fault that their mother is a lying scum bag.
 

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Regarding your first thought about how a woman would feel in this situation, don't forget the stories about women that were given the wrong baby at the hospital back in the day. What if that woman raised that child for 15 years then found out her baby had been switched in the nursery at the hospital.



As a guy, I would be pissed off if I learned that my wife had lied to me all those years. But I would find it very hard to walk away from a kid that I raised. It is not their fault that their mother is a lying scum bag.



for the first comment thats why I mentioned "naturally" and I think the bigger issue isnt so much paying for a kid that isnt biologically yours, but these situations where after they get divorced, the mother marries the biological father. I think thats what hits the bone in some of these cases more than anything. Is not only is he not the biological father, but now the biological father is in a position to take that role as well, all the while hes paying for it.



I wouldnt lament the money situation if if the biological father was completely out of the picture. I have a father that isnt my biological father, so I get it. On the same token I have a couple of friends whose father that raised them from toddlers wasnt their biological father, then when they were in their 20's dude tried to come back into their life and they were all into it. I was like why the **** would you do that. My biological father tried the same bullshit like 2 years ago, I told him to **** off.
 

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I read most of this, admittedly not all...



I also preface this with I take steps to NOT be a father, period.



But if a chick got knocked up from me? I would be there for the kid as much as I could, physically and financially. If it turned out it wasnt mine, and as the article takes about, you have to decide: No child support but you cant see the kid or pay and your rights to custody remain.



Not an easy choice at all as Pete mentioned: "[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]But I would find it very hard to walk away from a kid that I raised. It is not their fault that their mother is a lying scum bag." [/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Knowing me even sans kid? That is very true and I dont envy the "father"'s choice at all. [/font]
 

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Really, it would depend how much time you spent with the kid, at least for me. If I raised the kid I'd want to continue to be part of his/her life. If I found out early in kids life not so much.
 

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Well, it's a toughie. I did consider this a lot when single. But it helps that I'm a complete and utter prick. 1st off, I have no problem calling a slut a slut. If i have a question about the paternity i have no qualms about asking her to prove paterinty or getting the law involved.



Then, when it comes to the archaicness of the law, if I were to be stuck with fiscal paternity, I also keep in mind that within human "culture" <snigger>, genetics makes up little and the intelligence, knowledge, and how you raise your kids makes a bigger impact on the health of said culture. Thus, even if proven that I'm not the father and court-ordered to pay child support, it would not be beneath me to sue for custody. Either I end up with the kid and raise them against the values of their slut mother, or the court records indicate i have no paternal rights and therefore should have no fiscal patenral obligations.



The deeper problem, though, is men getting upto their nuts in the guts of women without vetting how psycho they are (and yes ladies, the converse is also a problem). Gentlemen, follow the late Sam Kinnison's advice: If you don't trust the pussy, don't **** the pussy.
 

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They could just do paternity tests on all babies when they are born and then none of these people would get away with anything.
 

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They could just do paternity tests on all babies when they are born and then none of these people would get away with anything.



But then we miss out on all the wonderful Maury Moments discussed in the other thread!
 

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They could just do paternity tests on all babies when they are born and then none of these people would get away with anything.

The problem with that is your average woman would never go for it, and in a way, I can fully understand. My main argument against supporters of the Patriot act who claim "if you're not doing anything wrong then you shouldn't worry" is that the presumption is innocence, not guilt.



Making a paternity test on a newborn is going off the presumption that all women inherently cheat and can't be trusted. Believe me--that won't fly. I think the easiest solution is that if you don't trust the pussy (or dick) don't **** the pusy (or dick), and for the guys, embrace your inner asshole and don't be shy about questioning the paternity as early as possible if you have any questions.
 

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Also admitting to not Having read the entire article, 80%, I was able still able to glean the gist of it. There is no denying that the issue is one that is both maddening and sad. Maddening from the standpoint that some man put his trust in a woman, only to have it spat upon by a most indecent and inscrutable act. Having fallen victim to similar but not quite so inexcusable circumstances, I feel for the men in these situations. I can certainly attest to the hostility one would feel toward the purpetrator of the complete and utter lack of respect it would take to do such a thing.



It is also extremely sad that these men have to face a horrible decision, accept what has been done to them and commit to the fiscal burden (I won't say responsibility because that's what the whole topic is about), and continue to pay the support ordered. OR Petition to have the support order rescinded and relinquish any rights to the child, possibly in resulting never see them again.



The ultimate abomination is the fact that there innocent children that are going to suffer from the actions of those of whom should be the number one person looking out for their best interests, the mother. This is not going to turn into a woman bashing rant, but I couldn't help but notice that the article made no mention of any responsibility the women in these cases were made to accept. The burden is placed solely on the their unwitting partners. As part of the atricle refers, even if the men can prove he was tricked, the only liability to the women I see is she loses the support dollars, and has to assume no culpability.



I too agree that in order too possibly reduce the numbers of incidents, make DNA testing mandatory at the birth of the child. At the very worst, her lie will only last 9 months, given it's the 1st child of the parents. The laws governing paternity in most states are antiquated and in need up updating to accommodate many of today's non traditional relationships. To hold a man who has been proven not to be child's biological father, especially when the biological baby daddy is perfectly capable of assuming that role, is completely reprehensible. These dogs need to assume their responsibility!



In my opinion, it would be better to risk the end of a relationship, than to perpetuate a lie, this I have learned first hand. Be honest and trust that just maybe, your partner can handle truth ( no,not a Few Good Men reference).
 

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But then we miss out on all the wonderful Maury Moments discussed in the other thread!



Montel used to have some good ones too. I remember one time this young girl had to have 14 guys tested and at least 6 were from her own family.
 

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Wow, women really need to make up their minds about having the government in their pussy or not.
 

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Giving it some more thought...



Instead of paternity at birth (which again puts on a face of fascism not unlike the Patriot Act), maybe make it a legal mandate that in any custody or child support hearing, paternity must be tested or previously medically established.



At least that way there's a valid reason for estabishing paternity, rather than just on a whim. Seems like a decent common ground.
 

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Isn't that what the election is about this November?



I sure hope not. But I do realize that just because I don't give a damn about certain issues doesn't mean they aren't important to others. I know my top 3 are probably way down the list for most.
 

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I sure hope not. But I do realize that just because I don't give a damn about certain issues doesn't mean they aren't important to others. I know my top 3 are probably way down the list for most.



Taxes, Guns and?
 

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Illegal Immigration. (Or simply closing our borders so that a suitcase nuke doesn't just walk across the line and ruin the day of a city)
 

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Illegal Immigration. (Or simply closing our borders so that a suitcase nuke doesn't just walk across the line and ruin the day of a city)



See, I pay attention. I know you pretty well.
 

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Illegal Immigration. (Or simply closing our borders so that a suitcase nuke doesn't just walk across the line and ruin the day of a city)

When is the Maury where the DNA test Illegal Immigrant dads? That would tie this whole thread together.
 

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