what's wrong with brad miller.

[pinkizdead]

Does ne one know if he's injured?
Can he not handle the spotlight?
Is boston's defense too much for him?

What's up with him. he's not playing like his usual self. He misses layups. His passing is pretty terrible. People claim that he's a shooting bigman, but i have yet to see him consistently hit that outside shot.

 

[dougthonus]

Besides the final play where he had the trifecta of lousiness (missing the open layup, free throw, and rim on intentional miss) I thought he played pretty well.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

I am not giving him a pass however if I were him I would have missed it to, he did require stiches after the game.

 

[senrad]

You guys see him spitting blood or maybe a tooth after he got hit? thought he was going to get a tech for that. Once he missed the rim on the second one his hands were shaking when he went back to the bench. He should have sit out IMO. My question is who would doc have picked to take the free throws if Miller wasn't able to go? Noah maybe? Gray?

 

[Hoover]

Miller has been awful in this series. He's had his moments, but the turnovers are just awful. Your right too about his shooting. He was a great shooter, but now not so much. He did hit some big ones yesterday though, until the last play.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

senrad wrote:

You guys see him spitting blood or maybe a tooth after he got hit? thought he was going to get a tech for that. Once he missed the rim on the second one his hands were shaking when he went back to the bench. He should have sit out IMO. My question is who would doc have picked to take the free throws if Miller wasn't able to go? Noah maybe? Gray?

Gray probably.

 

[AirP]

dougthonus wrote:

Besides the final play where he had the trifecta of lousiness (missing the open layup, free throw, and rim on intentional miss) I thought he played pretty well.

That's a bunch of BS to even say, how is it an open layup when he got knocked in the head while going up for the shot? Go for a layup and let someone hit you like Rondo hit Miller and lets see how far you miss. My god, it was a simple finger roll from near rim height and he air balled it... to me that tells me he was hit quite hard, his tooth and lip also says that. It was obvious he was still not 100% when he got to the line or did you want Gray to be picked to come off the bench cold and go sink 2 shots?

I'm not a Miller fan, I think he's a good backup to have that Vinnie is overusing, but my god, how can anyone blame Miller for what happened in the last 5 seconds? If you want to ***** about how slow he was, there's other bigs that could have been put in that situation, blame Vinnie. Miller is what he is, it's up to the coach to decide what assets on the roster to use.

Jesus, Rondo didn't even come close to going after the ball, the problem was the refs didn't call the obvious. Chicago should have had 2 shots and the ball with 2 seconds on the clock.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

AirP wrote:
Jesus, Rondo didn't even come close to going after the ball, the problem was the refs didn't call the obvious. Chicago should have had 2 shots and the ball with 2 seconds on the clock.

So true! Rondo had no chance to play the ball. The refs were bad the whole game, so I didn´t expect them to make the right call this time. But to be fair you have to say that the Bulls didn´t lose because of the refs. They simply played too bad at the end.

 

[AirP]

Bullseye wrote:

AirP wrote:
Jesus, Rondo didn't even come close to going after the ball, the problem was the refs didn't call the obvious. Chicago should have had 2 shots and the ball with 2 seconds on the clock.

So true! Rondo had no chance to play the ball. The refs were bad the whole game, so I didn´t expect them to make the right call this time. But to be fair you have to say that the Bulls didn´t lose because of the refs. They simply played too bad at the end.

I hope to see Chicago start fouling JUST AS HARD as that shot Rondo gave Miller, the refs just set the bar of what's allowable. I know you don't like letting free throws decide a game, and on the Celtics side of the ball you don't allow an easy layup, but my god, that was ridiculous, if anything Rondo should have pushed Miller, not hit him in the face.

 

[dougthonus]

That's a bunch of BS to even say, how is it an open layup when he got knocked in the head while going up for the shot? Go for a layup and let someone hit you like Rondo hit Miller and lets see how far you miss.

I thought the ball was out of his hand before he got hit. I don't have the game in front of me to look now, but upon seeing the replay many times I thought the ball was definitely gone already. If the ball was still in his hands when he got hit, I'll gladly take it back, but I thought it was gone, in which case it didn't matter that Rondo clubbed him.

My god, it was a simple finger roll from near rim height and he air balled it... to me that tells me he was hit quite hard, his tooth and lip also says that. It was obvious he was still not 100% when he got to the line or did you want Gray to be picked to come off the bench cold and go sink 2 shots?

He clearly got hit hard. I'm not arguing that fact. I just thought the ball was gone when he was hit.

I'm not a Miller fan, I think he's a good backup to have that Vinnie is overusing, but my god, how can anyone blame Miller for what happened in the last 5 seconds? If you want to ***** about how slow he was, there's other bigs that could have been put in that situation, blame Vinnie. Miller is what he is, it's up to the coach to decide what assets on the roster to use.

How can I blame Miller for missing the shot, missing the FT and missing the rim? I don't know, who do you blame for it?

Jesus, Rondo didn't even come close to going after the ball, the problem was the refs didn't call the obvious. Chicago should have had 2 shots and the ball with 2 seconds on the clock.

That would have been nice.

 

[dougthonus]

I hope to see Chicago start fouling JUST AS HARD as that shot Rondo gave Miller, the refs just set the bar of what's allowable. I know you don't like letting free throws decide a game, and on the Celtics side of the ball you don't allow an easy layup, but my god, that was ridiculous, if anything Rondo should have pushed Miller, not hit him in the face.

It will be interesting to see if there is any further action taken on Rondo. I would bet that they upgrade the foul to at least a flagrant 1 (not that it will do anything for us).

 

[Bullsman24]

senrad wrote:

My question is who would doc have picked to take the free throws if Miller wasn't able to go? Noah maybe? Gray?

wouldn't he have had to pick from players on the floor? the lineup was rose, gordon, hinrich, salmons, and whoever we put in. i'm assuming we would've put in tyrus because he's our next best free throw shooter, but they definitely would have given it to tyrus, which still could've been ok.

 

[Bullsman24]

if he gets his second flagrant in the series, will that do anything for us, or does it have to be two in the same game?

 

[AirP]

dougthonus wrote:

How can I blame Miller for missing the shot, missing the FT and missing the rim? I don't know, who do you blame for it?

I blame the person who left him loopy and the refs allowing it to be just a foul. It was Miller going to the line kind of out of it or allowing the Celtics to pick Gray who wasn't even warm to come into the game and get the job done.

It was a horrible situation, Miller who is a good FT shooter but a little loopy or a completely cold Gray(Celtics could pick).

I just hope that foul WAKES THIS TEAM UP. It's the playoffs, it's time to start fouling hard. Rondo better hit the floor hard for the rest of the series. The refs and Rondo just set the bar of what's allowable.

We need an enforcer in the worst way in the playoffs. I'm going to guess Miller will now fill that role up after game 5.

 

[Bullsman24]

so doc rivers can choose any player he wants to shoot the free throw, even if they haven't played all game?

the way i interpreted it would be for him to choose a player who's on the court at the time.

 

[AirP]

bullsman24 wrote:

so doc rivers can choose any player he wants to shoot the free throw, even if they haven't played all game?

the way i interpreted it would be for him to choose a player who's on the court at the time.

I believe it's anyone on the bench is eligible unless it's a fragment-2 which I guess we could have put Gordon at the line but Miller would be out of the game.

 

[chi_hawks_23]

F*** Boston.

Brad Miller is gonna clothesline Rondo's ass like hes Curt Rambis' come Thursday.

 

[dunkside.com]

dougthonus wrote:

Besides the final play where he had the trifecta of lousiness (missing the open layup, free throw, and rim on intentional miss) I thought he played pretty well.

you forget 3 passes he f***ed up. all 3 would have ended in dunks for tyrus. even if he was fouled on 2 of them and missed the other, his FT% says he'd make at least 3 FT. 3 extra points = there's your game right there.

AirP wrote:

It was obvious he was still not 100% when he got to the line or did you want Gray to be picked to come off the bench cold and go sink 2 shots?

well, gray couldn't have done worse than missing the 1st one and then missing the miss so to speak.

to fail at failing, that's something special.

 

[TheStig]

AirP wrote:

dougthonus wrote:

How can I blame Miller for missing the shot, missing the FT and missing the rim? I don't know, who do you blame for it?

I blame the person who left him loopy and the refs allowing it to be just a foul. It was Miller going to the line kind of out of it or allowing the Celtics to pick Gray who wasn't even warm to come into the game and get the job done.

It was a horrible situation, Miller who is a good FT shooter but a little loopy or a completely cold Gray(Celtics could pick).

I just hope that foul WAKES THIS TEAM UP. It's the playoffs, it's time to start fouling hard. Rondo better hit the floor hard for the rest of the series. The refs and Rondo just set the bar of what's allowable.

We need an enforcer in the worst way in the playoffs. I'm going to guess Miller will now fill that role up after game 5.

I was hoping thats what Miller would do since we got him but it just hasn't materialized. He mostly complains.

 

[PJ Brown]

As Doug suggests, I bet Rondo gets upgraded, but that doesn't help us win the next game.

I also agree with the others that the Bulls have to get physical, not cheap shot physical, but hard purposeful fouls. The bar has been set and you're a fool to get kicked around without reply. We've done nothing to stop Rondo defensively, so let's at least let him know there may be repercussions when he drives the lane. Now, admittedly, I won't cry if Brad cheap shots somebody, but I'm not sure that'll do anything to help us win, which is ultimately more important than silly street justice.