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So, I watched an interesting documentary on Tupac and Biggie? Whats yall theory on who shot who? I find completely strange that neither murder can even close to being solved. I say the cops had to be involved.
 

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Same guys that killed Jimmy Hoffa
 

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My guess has always been that the LAPD had something to do with Biggie's death and that Suge had something to do with 2Pac's.
 

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I'm actually a moderator on the Makaveli board website. And we have Greg Kading as a member. He is the detective that was on the Tupac case. And basically there was a confession from a guy called Keffe D who said puffy had a 1mil hit on tupac and suge and when they killed 2pac, puffy didn't pay because suge didn't die as well. Keffe D is serving life so he has nothing to lose. He's the uncle of Orlando Anderson, who Pac jumped the night at the casino. Orlando was the trigger man.

Biggies murder was basic retaliation from 2pacs shooting from what I gathered and was told. The guy who was in charge of having pac shot the 1st time was Jimmy Henchman. He was extorting money from Bad Boy and Puffy. Tupac learned in jail what happened in the first shooting and who did it. He first thought biggie set him up, but then learned biggie might have known something before but didnt warn him.

Greg Kading basically said the murders were solved and the cops did not really care who killed them they were just glad they were dead. The Makaveli Board is actually a really nice website and we get interviews with the outlawz and Greg a lot.

There's so much stuff behind the murders its not just black and white it's a whole bunch of stuff coming to a head. But basically for Tupac from what I understand was someone stole a chain from a death row member and tupac saw the guy who stole it and ran up to him and hit him. Then he was killed in retaliation/for the hit as I understand.

But even if that never happened I still think pac would have been dead or tried to be killed later that year or like 97, he had so many enemies. and he also was getting political and was trying to start his own party which woulda gave him a lot more enemies.

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My guess has always been that the LAPD had something to do with Biggie's death and that Suge had something to do with 2Pac's.

Suge would never call for a hit when he's 2 feet from the guy getting shot. Made no sense. Him and Pac were actually close, it wasnt a business friendship, they were tight.
 

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Suge would never call for a hit when he's 2 feet from the guy getting shot. Made no sense. Him and Pac were actually close, it wasnt a business friendship, they were tight.
Isn't is true Pac was gonna leave Death Row though?
 

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Isn't is true Pac was gonna leave Death Row though?

Strong indications he was, yes. His photographer even said he had the papers ready. Others said he wasn't because a few days before he died he was starting Death Row East. Basically uniting West Coast and East Coast, hence the One Nation album. But lets say Suge did set him up..why would he be in the seat 2 feet from him? Suge got grazed in the head too by glass. That would be real risky if you ask me.

Everyone around Pac at that time said him and Suge were really tight. The song "never had a friend like me" was about Suge. no theories of Suge setting him up seem realistic, but anythings possible I guess.
 

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The documentary I watched talked about it. Pac was def. leaving Death Row because Suge wouldnt pay a couple of million he owed him over royalties. Pac was taking all his tracks and leaving which would make Suge lose a lot more money. Suge also said there was a bullet in his head from when him and Pac got shot. Later, the hospital revealed it was only a cut by glass.

They also talk about the Pac fight before the shooting. Pac hit him because he was told that he stole a members of Death Rows necklace. If you have netflix, the documentary is Biggie and Tupac from 2002. Its pretty good. Some you can see is a stretch and some kind of fits into place.
 

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The documentary I watched talked about it. Pac was def. leaving Death Row because Suge wouldnt pay a couple of million he owed him over royalties. Pac was taking all his tracks and leaving which would make Suge lose a lot more money. Suge also said there was a bullet in his head from when him and Pac got shot. Later, the hospital revealed it was only a cut by glass.

They also talk about the Pac fight before the shooting. Pac hit him because he was told that he stole a members of Death Rows necklace. If you have netflix, the documentary is Biggie and Tupac from 2002. Its pretty good. Some you can see is a stretch and some kind of fits into place.

Yeah I think he was leaving death row too, personally. Watch "Tupac Resurrection", best doc out there about him. He narrates it himself mostly.
 

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@2pac

since you mod on a 2pac message board, you've probably seen this question asked dozens of times: In the intro on the Makaveli album it sounds like 2pac says "suge shot me"...has it ever been determined what's really being said?
 

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@2pac

since you mod on a 2pac message board, you've probably seen this question asked dozens of times: In the intro on the Makaveli album it sounds like 2pac says "suge shot me"...has it ever been determined what's really being said?

Haha yeah man thats from a movie. I forget what movie, but they added that in there. I believe its "shoulda shot me" but it was definitely from a movie
 

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My laptops broken but when its fixed ill try to find the thread over there and pm ya

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that makes sense. Just listened to it again for the first time in a long time and it's still creepy if you hear it as "Suge shot me" lol
 

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that makes sense. Just listened to it again for the first time in a long time and it's still creepy if you hear it as "Suge shot me" lol

Theres so many weird things about his death. If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7 Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive".*he died the 7th day after being shot.
 

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Not saying hes alive but theres cool creepy stuff out there bout his death

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I remember reading a bunch of "7" theories about his death but not that one...that's kind of amazing.
 

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I remember reading a bunch of "7" theories about his death but not that one...that's kind of amazing.

His lyrics about his death are pretty accurate haha. I'll pm you a thread when I get my laptop back on how his lyrics prove hes alive. Although I don't believe it, its kinda cool. Just random lyrics from songs that talk about death and disappearing and stuff
 

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Thanks for the insight Pac, I have always wondered who really was the guy behind Pac's death.
 

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I'm actually a moderator on the Makaveli board website. And we have Greg Kading as a member. He is the detective that was on the Tupac case. And basically there was a confession from a guy called Keffe D who said puffy had a 1mil hit on tupac and suge and when they killed 2pac, puffy didn't pay because suge didn't die as well. Keffe D is serving life so he has nothing to lose. He's the uncle of Orlando Anderson, who Pac jumped the night at the casino. Orlando was the trigger man.

Biggies murder was basic retaliation from 2pacs shooting from what I gathered and was told. The guy who was in charge of having pac shot the 1st time was Jimmy Henchman. He was extorting money from Bad Boy and Puffy. Tupac learned in jail what happened in the first shooting and who did it. He first thought biggie set him up, but then learned biggie might have known something before but didnt warn him.

Greg Kading basically said the murders were solved and the cops did not really care who killed them they were just glad they were dead. The Makaveli Board is actually a really nice website and we get interviews with the outlawz and Greg a lot.

There's so much stuff behind the murders its not just black and white it's a whole bunch of stuff coming to a head. But basically for Tupac from what I understand was someone stole a chain from a death row member and tupac saw the guy who stole it and ran up to him and hit him. Then he was killed in retaliation/for the hit as I understand.

But even if that never happened I still think pac would have been dead or tried to be killed later that year or like 97, he had so many enemies. and he also was getting political and was trying to start his own party which woulda gave him a lot more enemies.

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Sounds like children with guns.
 

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[video=youtube;zDdbn0eTDpA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDdbn0eTDpA[/video]

Actual skit begins around the 30 second mark.
 

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