Will Levi Norwood be our new Kick/Punt Returner? Is he the next Devin Hester?

[Newblood]

This past administration gave zero priority to special teams, further augmenting their total fail, not to even mention the coach. Please, God, there has to be improvement in this area. When I think of Bears, I think of great special teams, great defense, super rivalries, running the ball, etc. Those morons purposely wanted no part of any of that, and verbally stated it.

Don't think I would put much stock in that arguement: Fox was the HC in Denver, where Rodgers was the special teams coach. I believe Denver was only marginally better than the Bears last year. Now both are in Chicago. I hope to God also that there is improvement, but not sure how, from past performances, that you can conclude that the current regime puts a much higher premium on special teams.

Also, generally speaking, good special teams are a byproduct of quality roster depth. Not sure many would argue that the Bears will have quality depth this year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say definitively that the special teams will be shit this year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they struggle.

 

[sevvy]

let kevin white return kicks and punts if he is supposed to be so much better than lockett.

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[Sagbear]

Also at Hester's pro day he ran in the 4.2s and has some of the most natural field vision iv ever seen in a returner.

 

[Bearly]

Well yeah. You draft defense 1st round, trade down in the 2nd for a later 2nd round pick, draft Lockett. Then you have Beasley, Lockett and an addition draft pick instead of what we got in the first 2 rounds. The reason he was not 1st round was his height. Doesn't matter when you run routes like him, number one receiver in Kansas State history in a QB run option offense. Oh well. Seattle knew.

Maybe we wanted a WR that can play anywhere, power through a press and is able to block. Lockett is dynamic but don't pretend that size and strength doesn't matter at WR, especially in Chicago. He is a great route runner but he still needs to beat a press from faster and more physical NFL corners. College WR is one of those spots that doesn't translate well into the NFL. I think Lockett will succeed but when you can stack the deck with skill size and strength like White has, you greatly improve your odds. I was also a big fan of Beasley but with Beasley and Lockett we would be taking two guys that lack physicality, don't help our run O or D and this is on a slow field that tends to neutralize quick twitch.

The imaginary trades as fact thing is always amusing.

 

[Bearly]

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and throw away the key!

 

[Wild_x_Card]

This is why Lockett will have a harder time in the NFL as a receiver:

At the Senior Bowl, Lockett had a hand measurement of just 8.375” and an arm measurement of just 29.125”. Those numbers are much smaller than most NFL receivers.

 

[DaaBears]

Good morning. I see you guys were up all night digging for reasons that Tyler Lockett will not have success in the NFL. I just awoke from a good nights sleep. Obviously the Seattle organization should have consulted with you guys before they spent their 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th draft picks just to trade up in a round to make sure they got him.

I guess we are just going to wait over the next few seasons and see who is right on this. I am hoping you guys are right, but really doubt it.

 

[Bearly]

Are you sure you weren't spinning in your sleep because you haven't stopped? Seattle passed on him once and would have taken White if they could have instead. That's just a bunch of rationalized spin and no one said lockett was a fail, just that he's greater risk than White for the reasons guys get picked where they do. I actually think Lockett's a VG value for where they got him but he's not the prospect White is. With the way Wilson can extend plays Lockett is an interesting fit for them.

 

[Forever500]

This is why Lockett will have a harder time in the NFL as a receiver:

At the Senior Bowl, Lockett had a hand measurement of just 8.375” and an arm measurement of just 29.125”. Those numbers are much smaller than most NFL receivers.

In that case, I'm 5'11.5"
weigh 194
19 reps of 225
4.6 40 electric timed

my hands are 9 3/4"


Can I sign with the Bears

 

[HeHateMe]

In that case, I'm 5'11.5"
weigh 194
19 reps of 225
4.6 40 electric timed

my hands are 9 3/4"


Can I sign with the Bears

Aren't you twelve?

 

[DaaBears]

Don't think I would put much stock in that arguement: Fox was the HC in Denver, where Rodgers was the special teams coach. I believe Denver was only marginally better than the Bears last year. Now both are in Chicago. I hope to God also that there is improvement, but not sure how, from past performances, that you can conclude that the current regime puts a much higher premium on special teams.

Also, generally speaking, good special teams are a byproduct of quality roster depth. Not sure many would argue that the Bears will have quality depth this year. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say definitively that the special teams will be shit this year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they struggle.

No. Quality depth would be measured by how well the backups in offensive and defensive positions would be able to perform should the starters get injured. You can have terrible depth, and yet great special teams, by flooding your backups with special team aces. On Lovie's teams for example, special teams skills were critical in the selection of the backups and who was active each Sunday. It didn't seem like the last group cared much at all about special teams capabilities when filling out the roster.

 

[Mikeropod]

My favorite part about this video, is how it starts out with several horrible plays in a row, all on him.

 

[Newblood]

No. Quality depth would be measured by how well the backups in offensive and defensive positions would be able to perform should the starters get injured. You can have terrible depth, and yet great special teams, by flooding your backups with special team aces. On Lovie's teams for example, special teams skills were critical in the selection of the backups and who was active each Sunday. It didn't seem like the last group cared much at all about special teams capabilities when filling out the roster.

You don't know what "generally" means do you?

I'd be willing to bet that not a single NFL coach brings in a majority of their backups based mainly around their special teams play. That is setting your team up to fail. They will bring in their special teams aces of course, but they sure as hell do not make up a majority of the backups (not intentionally anyway).

If anything, Lovie's (in reality was not Lovie's units, but Toub's) quality special teams units can be traced back to his willingness to use starters on special teams. Which he was often criticized for.

I doubt even Lovie did what you suggest. I'm pretty sure that special teams was a happy happenstance of shitty talent evaluation. Bringing in guys that fail to makeup quality backups, but were good enough for a good special teams unit.

Once AGAIN, what with the current regime gives you the impression that they are more focused on special teams than the last regime?

 

[Bearfanfromnewjersey]

That was the worst highlight video ever

 

[HeHateMe]

In that case, I'm 5'11.5"
weigh 194
19 reps of 225
4.6 40 electric timed

my hands are 9 3/4"



Can I sign with the Bears

I don't think teams can sign tweens in the NFL...

 

[hyatt151]

I see him as an antonio brown/ beckhman jr type of player. Great hands, quick to the ball, high vertical, ambitious attitude, quick feet, willing to block, good fakes, dosn't get scared up the middle, 90 degree cuts, buttonhook faker

Fixed it for ya!!