Worst Case Scenario

[Bear_Assed]

In my opinion, the worst case scenario for this off-season GM/Coach hiring is they hire a defensive coach like Frazier. He brings in an unproven guy as OC. Fields struggles under the OC and everyone is arguing whether Fields sucks or his coaches/the offense sucks for the next 3+ years.

I have a horrible feeling this is a realistic and potentially likely scenario based upon the past 30 years of following this franchise. I can’t think of much worse.

 

[Mdbearz]

The only Super Bowl this franchise has won was with a dominant Defense, so there is that......

And those making the decisions were around when that happened, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if they hired a Defensive minded coach.

I think it might be the "Nagy effect"...they hired an offensive minded HC and the main reason they won games under him was because the defense was playing well. Logic says that you can get those offensive results from any coach, so why not play to the strength of the defense.....

None of this applies to the modern day NFL, but it is more than likely the way the Bears FO is thinking and will operate.

So in conclusion, yeah....

 

[and 69 others]

I don't think there's a chance a guy like Frazier is brought in. Say what you want about ownership, but the direction they go usually isn't the wrong direction, it's usually the final decision they f up on.

Mitch is a good example. They went the right direction in getting what was supposed to be an offensive guru in Nagy but picked the wrong guy.

They did the same thing with Trestman. You could say Fox was even the right direction (zig after they zagged).

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I think with Fields, we have a greater than good opportunity for this to work out.

The Quarterback is literally the hardest part.

You need a GM and a coach who prioritize protecting the quarterback (and a GM who can deliver the right pieces to do so), and a head coach that either can or has an OC who can call at least an average NFL offense and knows how to make adjustments, both during halftime, and season to season.

That is ALL the Bears need to have a perennial playoff contender, and everything else will slide in as an offshoot. Not to oversimplify the rest, but we really aren't that far off.

What that means to me is, (and pardon the semantics here), its more important to "not get it wrong" than it is to "get it right". As in, any number of candidates who can achieve what is needed can succeed here - but you absolutely MUST eliminate from consideration those the absolutely can't achieve protecting the quarterback or calling a real NFL offense.

 

[run and shoot]

The only Super Bowl this franchise has won was with a dominant Defense, so there is that......

And those making the decisions were around when that happened, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if they hired a Defensive minded coach.

I think it might be the "Nagy effect"...they hired an offensive minded HC and the main reason they won games under him was because the defense was playing well. Logic says that you can get those offensive results from any coach, so why not play to the strength of the defense.....

None of this applies to the modern day NFL, but it is more than likely the way the Bears FO is thinking and will operate.

So in conclusion, yeah....

The only Super Bowl this franchise has won was with a dominant Defense, so there is that......

dominant Defense, yes. Also.......
The year we won the SB....our offense was ranked 3rd.

 

[Milky]

IMO the Fields dilemma is easily solved. Hire Roman. If Fields fails in his 3 times proven (SF, Buf, Bal) offense then Fields isn’t any good, move on from both. If Fields develops and Roman is a shit HC fire Roman but at least they would know Fields is the guy moving forward.

Then moving forward if Fields develops it would more palatable to look at defensive HC’s.

Worst case in this scenario:
Fields fails.
Silver lining:
there is little to no mystery if Fields is any good.

Middle Ground:
Fields excels, Roman can’t hack it as HC.
Silver lining:
Fields develops

Best case scenario:
Roman brings Vic with him, Fields develops and the D gets better.
Silver lining:
Bears start winning.

 

[Mdbearz]

IMO the Fields dilemma is easily solved. Hire Roman. If Fields fails in his 3 times proven (SF, Buf, Bal) offense then Fields isn’t any good, move on from both. If Fields develops and Roman is a shit HC fire Roman but at least they would know Fields is the guy moving forward.

Then moving forward if Fields develops it would more palatable to look at defensive HC’s.

Worst case in this scenario:
Fields fails.
Silver lining:
there is little to no mystery if Fields is any good.

Middle Ground:
Fields excels, Roman can’t hack it as HC.
Silver lining:
Fields develops

Best case scenario:
Roman brings Vic with him, Fields develops and the D gets better.
Silver lining:
Bears start winning.

I like your best Milky!!!

BTW, Vic did leave on good terms, right? I would love to see him back as the DC....

 

[Milky]

I like your best Milky!!!

BTW, Vic did leave on good terms, right? I would love to see him back as the DC....

He left to take a HC spot so I’d think so.

 

[Black Rainbow]

George did mention in the press conference (paraphrasing) that 2018 went well, the offense fell off in 2019...but they felt after a playoff appearance and both Nagy & Pace with Coach & GM of the year honors deserved more time...

"In 2020 & 2021 the offense remained anemic...and if you cannot score in this league you cannot win."

George understands that you have to score. I don't think he's going to give up and go back to the old ways of running and defense. I don't think he's going to hire a DC and leave the offense in their hands to hopefully find a good OC. He's just not going to risk it.

 

[RumourBoy]

I think people vastly overestimate how much a QB coach/OC can help develop a professional QB. Do you think Tom Brady, Joe Montana and Aaron Rodgers would've done alright without an "offensive guru" holding their hand. The biggest thing Fields needs to develop is reps, which unfortunately he didn't get enough of in season 1. It will probably take at least a year or so before he is fully comfortable back there and making the right reads consistently...

So why not bring in Frazier for a short 2 year deal and go from there. Look what he did with a bunch of "scrubs" #1 in points allowed and yardage per game. The defense was the worst it's been in years, if we can shore the defense up and build it into a powerhouse again while Fields gets acclimated we could have a squad in a few years when we finally get some draft picks again.

I'm not saying Flores, Harbaugh, Bowles, etc. wouldn't work out, but I would rather give Frazier his shot. With Fields big play potential a potent D would be all we would need to compete. Would hate to see an offensive guy brought in and the defense gets shredded again.

 

[mattb78]

I feel the worst case is hiring a bad GM and drying the franchise of talent like what happened under the back end of Angelo's career thru Emery.

Bad head coaching decisions can be fixed pretty quickly. 4 or 5 years of bad drafts sinks you for a decade.