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Statsny for Bolland on draft day.





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Stastny is making 6.6 mil & is a UFA after next season.

If that happens, I want Stast signed to an extension shortly after.

Instant upgrade over Davey Boy, however.
 

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Stastny is making 6.6 mil & is a UFA after next season.

If that happens, I want Stast signed to an extension shortly after.

Instant upgrade over Davey Boy, however.

Instant upgrade, so why would the Avs do it? Unless there is a lot more thrown in.

Blackhawks can't take on another player at 6.6mil (double Bolland) with next year's salary cap unless there are a lot of other moving parts. I highly doubt with the salary cap restrictions next year that the Blackhawks make a play for a player with that much cap hit, especially considering the Blackhawks continue to plug the 2c with "cheaper" guys.
 

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Stastny is making 6.6 mil & is a UFA after next season.

If that happens, I want Stast signed to an extension shortly after.

Instant upgrade over Davey Boy, however.
Well, the Av's can keep a bit of his salary under the new CBA. Throw in Leddy and you have the basis of a win/win trade considering Sakic came out and said they wernt taking Jones, probably Mac.


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Instant upgrade, so why would the Avs do it? Unless there is a lot more thrown in.

Blackhawks can't take on another player at 6.6mil (double Bolland) with next year's salary cap unless there are a lot of other moving parts. I highly doubt with the salary cap restrictions next year that the Blackhawks make a play for a player with that much cap hit, especially considering the Blackhawks continue to plug the 2c with "cheaper" guys.

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What are you shaking your head at? Does that mean you can't reply to the salary cap implications and have nothing better to say?

Doesn't make sense salary cap wise unless a lot happens, pretty plain and simple. I highly doubt the Avs are going to take a chunk of Stastny's contract, especially because he is an impending UFA and someone would be willing to take him on full price.

Even if we see an amnesty of Montador and Olesz (the two candidates most likely) things are still going to be tight.
 

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What are you shaking your head at? Does that mean you can't reply to the salary cap implications and have nothing better to say?
NO, because 95% of the time you don't have a clue what you are talking about and the other 5% I heard before during the last game played that you parrot here in this forum. Color me unimpressed by Edzo.
Doesn't make sense salary cap wise unless a lot happens, pretty plain and simple. I highly doubt the Avs are going to take a chunk of Stastny's contract, especially because he is an impending UFA and someone would be willing to take him on full price.
Who? A second line center making 6 million who would be delegated to the fourth line if they did draft Mac or would be an over priced third line center compared to Bolland? Do you know what you are talking about? Even if they take a chunk of Stats salary?

(face palm)
Even if we see an amnesty of Montador and Olesz (the two candidates most likely) things are still going to be tight.
No their not.

Do learn a few things before replying in a thread I create. This isnt Johnnys.


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NO, because 95% of the time you don't have a clue what you are talking about and the other 5% I heard before during the last game played that you parrot here in this forum. Color me unimpressed by Edzo.

Who? A second line center making 6 million who would be delegated to the fourth line if they did draft Mac or would be an over priced third line center compared to Bolland? Do you know what you are talking about? Even if they take a chunk of Stats salary?

(face palm)

No their not.

Do learn a few things before replying in a thread I create. This isnt Johnnys.


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Montador and Olesz are the number 1 and 2 candidates for amnesty right now. There is no doubt about that. Can't bury contracts anymore without taking a hit and those two make the most sense.

If the Blackhawks were to amnesty Montador and Olesz, they would have approximately $8-9mil to work with in order to sign several players. They would need 2 defenseman (Rozsival and Leddy), 4 forwards (Bickell, Stalberg, Handzus and Kruger) and then a back up goalie (Emery) to replace from the current lineup. They will replace those players with either players in the system, the current player re-signing, or free agents. All those 7 players will command over $1mil - whether from the Blackhawks or another team. That is 7 players right there to replace with $8-9mil approximately.

Getting rid of Bolland would free up cap space, but not when it is adding Stastny and another $3mil...which would give the Blackhawks $5-6mil for 7 players - How is that going to work out? Avs could eat up to half of the salary if they want, but there is no reason to do that with Stastny. Sure they could just go the prospect route again, but I think everyone has seen how important it is to surround the core with quality players instead of just players.

capgeek.com - pretty simple.

Saying I don't know what I'm talking about is a cop out because you haven't answered a thing about the salary cap implications here...which is pretty much all it comes down to, especially with the cap dropping approx $6mil. You have no idea what you are talking about with the homer glasses on, especially if you are telling me to learn a thing or two before I respond to a stupid trade proposal thread that doesn't make sense.
 

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Montador and Olesz are the number 1 and 2 candidates for amnesty right now. There is no doubt about that. Can't bury contracts anymore and those two make the most sense.
Source? Where has it been stated both will be amnestied outside of translucent projection?
If the Blackhawks were to amnesty Montador and Olesz, they would have approximately $8-9mil to work with in order to sign several players. They would need 2 defenseman (Rozsival and Leddy), 4 forwards (Bickell, Stalberg, Handzus and Kruger) and then a back up goalie (Emery) to replace. They will replace those players with either players in the system, the current player re-signing, or free agents. All those 7 players will command over $1mil - whether from the Blackhawks or another team. That is 7 players right there to replace with $8-9mil approximately.
Bickell and Stalberg are not coming back. They also have plenty of depth to fill in holes at Rockford. Rozi I doubt will be back also. Leddy is in trade rumors, Zus isn't gonna be back, so you are stuck paying for Kruger. Yeah, 8 million bucks........
Getting rid of Bolland would free up cap space, but not when it is adding Stastny and another $3mil...which would give the Blackhawks $5-6mil for 7 players - How is that going to work out?
Scroll up.
Avs could eat up to half of the salary if they want, but there is no reason to do that with Stastny.
An over priced third line center at best on that team? Do you follow hockey?

Sure they could just go the prospect route again, but I think everyone has seen how important it is to surround the core with quality players instead of just players.
Da **** are you talking about? The Av's? The team that is rebuilding or the Hawks? Who in their right mind thinks the Hawks wouldn't be better with a second line center and just enough skill ready in Rockford to take over the spots from the exodus that will happen no matter what? You really think teams are built to just last? That Zus has a couple more years of not embarrassing himself? Come on, that's Rube thought.
capgeek.com - pretty simple.
LOL. Capgeek is for troubled children who want to role play NHL GM. It has absolutely nothing to offer outside of salary numbers and doesn't do nothing in regards to injuries, trades,etc. You can use that site, chances are GM's don't.(chuckles)
Saying I don't know what I'm talking about is a cop out because you haven't answered a thing about the salary cap implications here...which is pretty much all it comes down to, especially with the cap dropping approx $6mil. You have no idea what you are talking about with the homer glasses on, especially if you are telling me to learn a thing or two before I respond to a stupid trade proposal thread that doesn't make sense.
Sure, getting a number two center doesn't make any sense.

(shakes head)

This team will be blown up. Like it or not. The players you are clinging to are nothing but replaceable parts while getting a player like Stats is added to the fucking core. You don't comprehend this, its ok. But you sure as hell can find another Zus, Bickell, Stalberg quicker then finding a bonified second line center that can actually play on the same level as a Hossa or Kane. You could find another Zus at Johnnys. As for the salary Cap, Stan knows what he is doing and sure enough, if you think he couldn't broker out a deal, with all these rumors of players being on the block now, I have a PP coach at Johnnys that knows how to run a PP you should talk to. What Stan and the you/Edzo hybrid think are two different things, and one of those people actually runs a team, just sayin.


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^^^ You are a joke. You have no idea what you are talking about.

If the Blackhawks let 6 out of 7 of those players walk, they still have to replace them with other players - do you fail to see that? It will cost money. It has nothing to do with the Blackhawks keeping the current players, it is about filling out a roster and having the cap space to do it. It would be money they don't have if the Blackhawks add $3mil more in a Stastny. Sure he would look great at 2c, but cap implications say that a whole lot would have to happen in order to make it fit and work for the team.

Won't happen. Doesn't make sense. Explain to me how the Blackhawks trade for Stastny and are still able to fill out the roster...doesn't happen unless you are talking about some other big salary guys getting traded.

No source for Montador/Olesz, just common sense that two guys getting buried in Rockford and who don't have a lot left on their contracts would be two guys to get bought out.
 

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^^^ You are a joke. You have no idea what you are talking about.

If the Blackhawks let 6 out of 7 of those players walk, they still have to replace them with other players - do you fail to see that? It will cost money. It has nothing to do with the Blackhawks keeping the current players, it is about filling out a roster and having the cap space to do it. It would be money they don't have if the Blackhawks add $3mil more in a Stastny. Sure he would look great at 2c, but cap implications say that a whole lot would have to happen in order to make it fit and work for the team.

Won't happen. Doesn't make sense. Explain to me how the Blackhawks trade for Stastny and are still able to fill out the roster...doesn't happen unless you are talking about some other big salary guys getting traded.

No source for Montador/Olesz, just common sense that two guys getting buried in Rockford and who don't have a lot left on their contracts would be two guys to get bought out.

Yes, because there wasn't a mass exodus of talent already after the last time the Hawks won a Cup.....

You really need to learn a few things about the salary cap outside of (lol) cap geek.


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Yes, because there wasn't a mass exodus of talent already after the last time the Hawks won a Cup.....

You really need to learn a few things about the salary cap outside of (lol) cap geek.


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How did that work? You clearly aren't aware of the salary cap, otherwise you wouldn't play armchair GM and propose a trade that makes no sense cap wise.

Salary cap is going down $6mil. Please explain how the Blackhawks trade for Stastny and then successfully fill out the rest of the roster. Can't do it unless you are talking about Hossa, Seabs, or Sharp going somewhere, somehow.
 

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How did that work? You clearly aren't aware of the salary cap, otherwise you wouldn't play armchair GM and propose a trade that makes no sense cap wise.

Salary cap is going down $6mil. Please explain how the Blackhawks trade for Stastny and then successfully fill out the rest of the roster. Can't do it unless you are talking about Hossa, Seabs, or Sharp going somewhere, somehow.

Obvious troll is obvious.

I know its hard to ignore, when said troll is quoting you, but he isn't worth the time or energy to respond to.
 

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How did that work? You clearly aren't aware of the salary cap, otherwise you wouldn't play armchair GM and propose a trade that makes no sense cap wise.
Cap wise how? By trading away Bolland, his salary and Leddy, his perceived salary and making them take a chunk of Stats salary? You really think Theres a market for a guy making 6 million a year who has regressed three years in a row? Both teams are doing each other a favor and chances are the overflow of spent cap wouldn't be any more then what it was the Hawks traded for, putting you at the same cap number as before, you misinformed rube. You act like the Hawks are the only contending team that is gonna have issues with the salary cap and that other teams could offer a much better package while taking on six million dollars in cap space or just giving up premium talent coupled with a few saddlebags to even out the money. Two for one with the kept money from that one erased after the years sounds a whole lot better then some albatrosses that will be hanging around for a bit. Learn hockey.
Salary cap is going down $6mil. Please explain how the Blackhawks trade for Stastny and then successfully fill out the rest of the roster. Can't do it unless you are talking about Hossa, Seabs, or Sharp going somewhere, somehow.
Explain how the Hawks are gonna fill out the roster regardless. Young players and washed up players on one year deals? Oh Em Gee, and even then they can fill out the roster with Stats....


just wow


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Obvious troll is obvious.

I know its hard to ignore, when said troll is quoting you, but he isn't worth the time or energy to respond to.

How is "Quick on steroids" doing against the Hawks?



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We are in the middle of one of the best Stanley Cup finals of all time and this is what you got?

Save off-season for off-season man...at least a day into it.
 

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