msadows
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Aug 23, 2012
- Posts:
- 25,675
- Liked Posts:
- 20,760
Also, why is tua not forced to wear the guardian cap?
Szlachcic
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Oct 29, 2020
- Posts:
- 1,688
- Liked Posts:
- 1,639
- Location:
- Georgia
My favorite teams
Agree, there should be rule, after so many verified concussions the player cannot by member of any NFL roster..
- Joined:
- Aug 20, 2012
- Posts:
- 7,847
- Liked Posts:
- 6,606
- Location:
- Montgomery, TX
I think they all should.
dennehy
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Dec 29, 2015
- Posts:
- 11,450
- Liked Posts:
- 12,489
- Location:
- Jewels to get a case of Squirt
Ben Watson has always been really smart and well spoken.
Feel bad for Tua, not for Miami. Teams just get caught paying QBs who they shouldn't pay all the time, because GMs are extremely risk averse. Got a guy who can get you to the playoffs most years but probably never past that? Job security for me.
Also, the change is subtle but TDs are down across the league the last couple years, around 10% down from the average of the last 15 years or so and more than that compared to 2018-22. Not sure what is happening, poorer play from fewer practices, rules enforcement, but the last couple years offenses are having more trouble across the league, which is a break from the long term trend.
Feel bad for Tua, not for Miami. Teams just get caught paying QBs who they shouldn't pay all the time, because GMs are extremely risk averse. Got a guy who can get you to the playoffs most years but probably never past that? Job security for me.
Also, the change is subtle but TDs are down across the league the last couple years, around 10% down from the average of the last 15 years or so and more than that compared to 2018-22. Not sure what is happening, poorer play from fewer practices, rules enforcement, but the last couple years offenses are having more trouble across the league, which is a break from the long term trend.
msadows
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Aug 23, 2012
- Posts:
- 25,675
- Liked Posts:
- 20,760
They dont want to because it looks stupid.
Similar to the morons who ride motorcycles without a helmet too
inchibearfan
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Oct 19, 2013
- Posts:
- 6,042
- Liked Posts:
- 1,979
For his own health he should not be stepping back onto the field.
Enasic
Who are the brain police?
- Joined:
- Mar 17, 2014
- Posts:
- 14,032
- Liked Posts:
- 9,822
Sure they can. It’s the NFL…they do whatever the hell they wanna do.
- Joined:
- Aug 20, 2012
- Posts:
- 7,847
- Liked Posts:
- 6,606
- Location:
- Montgomery, TX
Well at least they pay taxes!
Enasic
Who are the brain police?
- Joined:
- Mar 17, 2014
- Posts:
- 14,032
- Liked Posts:
- 9,822
True…the Catholic Church gets to molest little boys with impunity AND tells Uncle Sam to suck it!
dennehy
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Dec 29, 2015
- Posts:
- 11,450
- Liked Posts:
- 12,489
- Location:
- Jewels to get a case of Squirt
The NFL can't void his contract or force Miami to pay him for not playing. I doubt the rest of the owners are going to foot the bill, although it probably is in their long term interest.
Enasic
Who are the brain police?
- Joined:
- Mar 17, 2014
- Posts:
- 14,032
- Liked Posts:
- 9,822
Wouldn’t he still get his GTD money even if he doesn’t play?
- Joined:
- Aug 21, 2012
- Posts:
- 13,828
- Liked Posts:
- 15,904
- Location:
- United Club
My favorite teams
His guaranteed money has to be protected for injury. I would expect he’d be covered for the rest of this season too.
- Joined:
- Aug 21, 2012
- Posts:
- 13,828
- Liked Posts:
- 15,904
- Location:
- United Club
My favorite teams
I found this:
Should Tagovailoa retire after suffering this latest concussion, the Dolphins could opt to honor the entirety of his $212.4 million contract like the Colts did with Andrew Luck.
They could also give him the minimum total without going after any of the signing bonus. Counting his $42 million signing bonus, Miami would pay a total of $167 million since it would be injury-related. That's $125 million in new money owed.
If it's not ruled as injury-related, Miami would owe Tagovailoa about $90 million on top of the $42 million already paid out. “
“How Much Would Dolphins Owe if Tua Tagovailoa Retires?
Tagovailoa, who just signed a four-year, $212.4 million deal this offseason, is under contract until after the 2028 season. He received over $132 million fully guaranteed, and with injury guarantees, has a package of about $167 million across the deal. His signing bonus of $42 million has already been paid out.Should Tagovailoa retire after suffering this latest concussion, the Dolphins could opt to honor the entirety of his $212.4 million contract like the Colts did with Andrew Luck.
They could also give him the minimum total without going after any of the signing bonus. Counting his $42 million signing bonus, Miami would pay a total of $167 million since it would be injury-related. That's $125 million in new money owed.
If it's not ruled as injury-related, Miami would owe Tagovailoa about $90 million on top of the $42 million already paid out. “
Enasic
Who are the brain police?
- Joined:
- Mar 17, 2014
- Posts:
- 14,032
- Liked Posts:
- 9,822
Either way, he’s set for life. Seems like a no brainer (no pun intended), to retire and have the best quality of life that you can long term.
DefNextYear
Well-known member
- Joined:
- Jan 21, 2024
- Posts:
- 1,614
- Liked Posts:
- 1,407
My favorite teams
You're right, but man... tough to let go of a starting QB. I'd hate to have to make that decision. Honestly, Tua should've been slip and sliding for the past 2 years to make sure he never does something like what he did last night.
- Joined:
- Aug 21, 2012
- Posts:
- 13,828
- Liked Posts:
- 15,904
- Location:
- United Club
My favorite teams
Several times he’s awkwardly put himself in harms way. Plus, he seems to be highly susceptible to concussions. He’s going to have to give retirement serious consideration.
- Joined:
- Nov 27, 2014
- Posts:
- 19,216
- Liked Posts:
- 4,740
What are the cap implications in either scenario?
1) He is medically ruled unfit to play ever again
2) He is cleared medically, yet chooses to retire citing health concerns.
Should special exceptions be implemented that allowed Miami to pay Tua his entire Salary should he choose to retire, yet not totally destroy Miami's cap for the next two years?
- Joined:
- Aug 21, 2012
- Posts:
- 13,828
- Liked Posts:
- 15,904
- Location:
- United Club
My favorite teams
I have no idea. I can’t think of anything that has happened in the NFL that we can look at as a case study. There are some guys on this board that know the cap intricacies pretty well. Maybe one of them can weigh in here.
Enasic
Who are the brain police?
- Joined:
- Mar 17, 2014
- Posts:
- 14,032
- Liked Posts:
- 9,822
Yeah and the more concussions you have, the easier it is to get them in the future. I get that it’s tough to walk away from the game you love, but you only get one brain/life. Have to take care of it the best you can. It’s like a chronic drinker whose doctor tells him he’s on his way to liver disease and if he keeps drinking, he’ll be in serious trouble. The solution is you quit drinking. For Tua , the solution is you stop taking hits from the biggest and most athletic people on the planet.
- Joined:
- Jul 12, 2013
- Posts:
- 19,670
- Liked Posts:
- 13,764
- Location:
- The sewers
My favorite teams
last night during the game, one of the announcers touched on this a bit
his theory was that most teams are playing 2 deep safeties now and forcing teams to dink and dunk their way down the field. Most QB's cant sustain drives that are 10+ plays or anything, and so we are seeing a drop in scoring. those longer possessions to score(when they do score) leads to fewer possessions per game and thus, less points per game too