12 years for murder

[Variable]

Yeah feeling that way is fine, I'd feel that way too, but it's when you say things like "I wouldn't convict her of the crime" or "That problem would be worth having" is what just flat out baffles me.

 

[jakobeast]

Yeah feeling that way is fine, I'd feel that way too, but it's when you say things like "I wouldn't convict her of the crime" or "That problem would be worth having" is what just flat out baffles me.

Well, what can I say? I am a baffling fool.



I don't expect everyone to understand my logic. Just my opinion. I personally wouldn't blame the father or mother for ending the life of the fucktwat that killed their child. I couldn't, in good conscience, send that parent to prison, especially if they had other children.

 

[Variable]

But don't you see that none of that is the root cause of the problem? Actions like that (a parent avenging their child, a jury deciding not to convict the parent of the crime) being taken after the original problem occurs only serves to distract and skew everything away from the real injustice and problem in the system and makes matters worse for everyone involved.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

How did she not end him right then and there? I would not blame her one bit. If I were on that jury, no way would I convict her.

I'm with Jako on this one . I've no links or articles to support this but I remember reading about a few different cases where a victims family member retaliated against the perpetrator and each time the jurors would not convict. I wonder how many juries would convict under these circumstances.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

But don't you see that none of that is the root cause of the problem? Actions like that (a parent avenging their child, a jury deciding not to convict the parent of the crime) being taken after the original problem occurs only serves to distract and skew everything away from the real injustice and problem in the system and makes matters worse for everyone involved.

Personally the real injustice is the sentence given was not enough for the crime committed and I think most would agree. So that skews in a bad light our justice system. I'm not saying vigilanteism (sp) is acceptable but neither is this type of JUSTICE !!! Did the judge only give 24 years because the charges being brought only merited that. If that's the case, just another failure of our sometimes unjust system.

 

[Variable]

Well that's exactly the point. The original problem I'm referring to is the sentence.

 

[jakobeast]

Well that's exactly the point. The original problem I'm referring to is the sentence.

Of course. There is no argument there. Now if the parent or whomever flies out to The 50th state just to kill this asshat, Then there is obviously some forethought. I still don't think I could convict in that situation on a 1st degree murder charge anyway. A lesser charge sure perhaps. in Maryo's example, if it was a chance meeting, dude smiling away, practically daring them to do something, taunting them even, he would be asking for it.

 

[maryo]

I think those are the situations "temporary insanity" was invented for. How she didn't snap and tear him apart is beyond me.

 

[jakobeast]

I think those are the situations "temporary insanity" was invented for. How she didn't snap and tear him apart is beyond me.

She is a stronger lass then I.

 

[mikita's helmet]

completely agree, in this case the guy is guilty as sin, but Ive seen enough shows on the innocence project, to know there are more people convicted of crimes they didnt commit than im comfortable with and a judicial system that wants to seem infallable. They had a case where they got ahold of indisputable dna evidence, this guy convicted of a rape and murder didnt do it, and the courts wouldnt admit it (he did eventually get exhonerated) but you shouldnt have to jump through that many hoops when somebody is proven to be innocent of a crime.

...as long as we get most of 'em right.

 

[giovi]

...as long as we get most of 'em right.

really? so you feel its alright to take an innocent persons life, as long as youve offed a few guilty ones as well?



if you do that, how does that make you different from the average run of the mill murderer?

 

[TSD]

really? so you feel its alright to take an innocent persons life, as long as youve offed a few guilty ones as well?



if you do that, how does that make you different from the average run of the mill murderer?

I'm sure he was being at least a little bit sarcastic.

 

[mikita's helmet]

I'm sure he was being at least a little bit sarcastic.

...just a tad!