2010 Unrestricted Free Agent List

[Fred]

LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Amare Stoudemire
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming
Dirk Nowitzki
Michael Redd

Am I missing anyone of note? I believe these are the big UNRESTRICTED free agents. To be
honest, isn't everyone on this list, outside of the top 4, on the downside of their careers? I don't see anyone entering their prime outside of the top 4.

LeBron is the only player on this list who I feel could possibly bring us a title with this team as currently constituted. If you add Wade, I don't think we're good enough to win a title...I still think a Cleveland team with LeBron would be better. Is the team around Dwayne in Miami that much worse than the current Bulls roster minus Salmons, Miller, and Thomas (all who will have to go in order to sign Wade)?

What are the odds we sign no one on this list in next offseason? Right now, I'd put it at 50-50.

 

[houheffna]

The idea is that you have all of these good players who can help the team...if they don't get any of them...they tried...that is what matters.

 

[pinkizdead]

them trying and failing isn't an excuse. it was a gamble, and they ought to be chastised for taking the gamble.

 

[houheffna]

as opposed to what? They haven't had a contending team in 10 years...haven't been close. If they didn't try to get the players that will be available...people would criticize them for that...

 

[Shakes]

pinkizdead wrote:

them trying and failing isn't an excuse. it was a gamble, and they ought to be chastised for taking the gamble.

It's not really a gamble when the alternative offers virtually zero chance of winning a championship.

 

[JimmyBulls]

David Lee is a UFA, and he's my pick to be in a Bulls uniform. It would seem like the Gar-Pax thing to do.

 

[Dpauley23]

Fred wrote:

LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Amare Stoudemire
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming
Dirk Nowitzki
Michael Redd

Am I missing anyone of note? I believe these are the big UNRESTRICTED free agents. To be
honest, isn't everyone on this list, outside of the top 4, on the downside of their careers? I don't see anyone entering their prime outside of the top 4.

LeBron is the only player on this list who I feel could possibly bring us a title with this team as currently constituted. If you add Wade, I don't think we're good enough to win a title...I still think a Cleveland team with LeBron would be better. Is the team around Dwayne in Miami that much worse than the current Bulls roster minus Salmons, Miller, and Thomas (all who will have to go in order to sign Wade)?

What are the odds we sign no one on this list in next offseason? Right now, I'd put it at 50-50.

Your missing Boozer so there's 6 guys who have realistic chance of leaving with 4 teams with cap space. The Heat isn't that much better with Wade right now than our team currently constructed. Seriously Fred are you saying that if we got Wade and then rolled with a Wade, Rose, Noah, Deng, and some crappy power foward we couldn't win the title?

 

[Shakes]

That crappy power forward better be able to shoot threes.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Shakes wrote:

That crappy power forward better be able to shoot threes.

Lol trade for Ryan Anderson or something :laugh:

 

[Diddy1122]

houheffna wrote:

The idea is that you have all of these good players who can help the team...if they don't get any of them...they tried...that is what matters.

No, what matters is actually GETTING one of those players. Trying & failing & then saying, "Well atleast we tried." That's what losers say, not winners. I want the Bulls to be winners, unfortunately they are run by a complete loser so we probably won't be seeing a winner for quite awhile.

 

[pinkizdead]

i'm hoping we get a high draft pick sometime soon for either a shooting guard or pf. we need both.

 

[Diddy1122]

Fred wrote:

LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Amare Stoudemire
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
Tyson Chandler
Manu Ginobili
Richard Jefferson
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming
Dirk Nowitzki
Michael Redd

Am I missing anyone of note? I believe these are the big UNRESTRICTED free agents. To be honest, isn't everyone on this list, outside of the top 4, on the downside of their careers? I don't see anyone entering their prime outside of the top 4.

Sorry Fred, I gotta change up your list a little bit. Now you said UNRESTRICTED FA's, well technically this is the list of honest-to-goodness UNRESTRICTED FA's coming up:

Carlos Boozer
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen
Manu Ginobili
Marcus Camby
Tracey McGrady
Shaquille O'Neal
Brad Miller
Stephen Jackson
Jermaine O'Neal
Mike Miller
Rip Hamilton
David Lee
Nate Robinson
Al Harrington
Travis Outlaw
Quentin Richardson
(and many other 2nd tier players)

These players all have opt out clauses after the season (which some have already said they will opt out, but we all know minds & hearts can change)

Yao Ming (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
Amare Stoudamire (owed 17.7 million in 10/11)
LeBron James (owed 17.2 million in 10/11)
Dwayne Wade (owed 17.0 million in 10/11)
Chris Bosh (owed 17.1 million in 10/11)
Dirk Nowitzki (owed $21.5 million in 10/11)
Josh Howard (owed $11.8 million in 10/11)
Mike Redd (owed $18.3 million in 10/11)
Tyson Chandler (owed $12.8 million in 10/11)

And then there's the RFA's from the 2006 class:
Rudy ***
LaMarcus Aldridge
Andrea Bargnani
Tyrus Thomas
Kyle Lowry
Randy Foye
Ronnie Brewer

Now we can easily scratch Yao, Dirk, Howard, Redd, & Chandler off the list, they are not opting out. Bosh & Amare I expect to, & LBJ & Wade have hinted at it but never actually come out & said that is their intention. And out of all those players the only 1 I really, really want in a Bulls uni is Lebron James. I agree with Fred, I feel with the way the talent is stacked in this league, & the talent currently on our roster, Lebron is the only 1 who could legitimately bring a title back to Chi-town.

 

[TheStig]

Shakes wrote:

pinkizdead wrote:

them trying and failing isn't an excuse. it was a gamble, and they ought to be chastised for taking the gamble.

It's not really a gamble when the alternative offers virtually zero chance of winning a championship.

If thats what they are truly believing, they would be tanking every year till they get the next great player. Great players rarely change teams, getting a great player like them is very rare. In the last decade, the only MVPs to move are KG, Shaq and Nash. Two of those guys chose to be moved and Nash was not nearly the player he is in PHX. Your much more likely to draft one and a Joe Johnson also gives you no shot at a title.

 

[houheffna]

They are not aiming for Joe Johnson...believe me. They are going to make a pitch to Lebron, Wade and Bosh...everybody else gets them closer winning a first round series, but not a championship.

If thats what they are truly believing, they would be tanking every year till they get the next great player.

No, if that is what they believe, they plan to have the money to offer those players so that they can make an offer to Wade, Bosh and Lebron. Every move they have made is worth it to get a chance to sit down and try to persuade Lebron. Believe that...

 

[??? ??????]

I'm getting worried about the Nets as far as Lebron is concerned. I think the more they lose the more attractive they become, as two things happen. 1. The Nets get a top draft pick. and 2. Lebron would be able to create a great legacy by turning the worst team in the league into the best team in the league.

At the end of the day, Devin Harris, Chris Douglas-Roberts, and Brook Lopez are good basketball players. So Lebron will have a good core that he'll be joining. The Nets will have some additional cap space past signing Lebron, which means they could easily do a Boston Celtics scenario, and dump their top draft pick for another star.

 

[houheffna]

Yeah, I like their young core...but still, its worth a shot...

 

[Chitown773]

Give me Rudy *** and David Lee. I like *** ability on both sides of the court. Him and Derrick Rose will sellout every night. David Lee is just the right guy to put alongside Joakim Noah. He cares about winning and puts effort out every night. FYI: I know *** natural position is SF, but he does have history that suggest he'll do fine at SG. He's a hybrid G/F like Josh Howard, Joe Johnson, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James - not naming them all.

PG: Rose/Hinrich
SG: ***/Salmons
SF: Deng/Johnson
PF: Thomas/Lee/Gibson
C: Noah/Asik

Upside: Athletic... exciting... potential... interchangeable

 

[??? ??????]

Chitown773 wrote:

Give me Rudy *** and David Lee. I like *** ability on both sides of the court. Him and Derrick Rose will sellout every night. David Lee is just the right guy to put alongside Joakim Noah. He cares about winning and puts effort out every night. FYI: I know *** natural position is SF, but he does have history that suggest he'll do fine at SG. He's a hybrid G/F like Josh Howard, Joe Johnson, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James - not naming them all.

PG: Rose/Hinrich
SG: ***/Salmons
SF: Deng/Johnson
PF: Thomas/Lee/Gibson
C: Noah/Asik

Upside: Athletic... exciting... potential... interchangeable

I think I like that better than Joe Johnson. Although I don't see how we can get both. I think it would be a one or the other type thing, and we especially couldn't keep Salmons while doing it.

I think keeping Gordon and trading for Boozer might have been the right path, especially with Boozer looking like a complete beast right now.

However, if we sign Lebron, Wade, Bosh, Amare, it will be hard to fault Bulls management. Of course right now, it looks like Amare will stay put in Phoenix, as they are first in the West. Wade will probably stay put in Miami. Which leaves Lebron/Bosh as the two heavy hitters, and I would imagine that Miami gets the best of which one of those two leaves over the Bulls.

 

[TheStig]

houheffna wrote:

They are not aiming for Joe Johnson...believe me. They are going to make a pitch to Lebron, Wade and Bosh...everybody else gets them closer winning a first round series, but not a championship.

If thats what they are truly believing, they would be tanking every year till they get the next great player.

No, if that is what they believe, they plan to have the money to offer those players so that they can make an offer to Wade, Bosh and Lebron. Every move they have made is worth it to get a chance to sit down and try to persuade Lebron. Believe that...

They don't have max cap space atm, it must be a very well thought plan. What happ3nw 2h3n salmons doesn't opt out?

 

[Shakes]

TheStig wrote:

If thats what they are truly believing, they would be tanking every year till they get the next great player. Great players rarely change teams, getting a great player like them is very rare. In the last decade, the only MVPs to move are KG, Shaq and Nash. Two of those guys chose to be moved and Nash was not nearly the player he is in PHX. Your much more likely to draft one and a Joe Johnson also gives you no shot at a title.

I agree that tanking is normally the way to go. However I have one word to refute the idea in this case: LeBron. There's unlikely to be anyone better than him in the next two decades of drafts, so whatever slight chance of getting him is probably still a better move than tanking.