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50% of our payroll for next year is dedicated to Alfonso Soriano :andruw:
 

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2013 Payroll Commitments: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Cubs have about $35MM committed to next season. Might as well write out your free agent wish list as long as teams don't get extension happy between now and December.

I still dont see Cubs spending money this FA year. They are to worried about trying to rebuild Wrigley. They dont know who the young core is yet. We all hope its Rizzo + Jackson + Castro + Garza + Shark. But we dont know cause they wont bring them up till they can save money.

Im prolly going to get slammed for this but i notice something from that list:

•Yankees: $119MM = Good Team
•Phillies: $113MM = Good Team
•Red Sox: $108MM = Good Team
•Dodgers: $103MM = Good Team
•Angels: $92MM = Good Team
•Tigers: $87MM = Good team ( under .500 but i assume be in race all year)
•Marlins: $85MM = Good Team
•Cardinals: $85MM = Good Team
•Rangers: $84MM = Good Team
•Giants: $81MM
•White Sox: $79MM
•Reds: $74MM
•Twins: $65MM
•Mets: $55MM
•Orioles: $53MM
•Blue Jays: $52MM
•Nationals: $52MM
•Brewers: $52MM
•Rockies: $46MM
•Diamondbacks: $45MM
•Mariners: $40MM = Bad
•Royals: $35MM = Bad
•Cubs: $35MM = Bad
•Athletics: $29MM = Bad
•Rays: $19MM = Good
•Pirates: $19MM = Bad
•Astros: $17MM = Bad
•Braves: $15MM = Good
•Indians: $11MM = Good
•Padres: $11MM = Bad


So the Top 10 teams spending money next year are all good

The bottom 10 teams only 3 teams are good

So to me what makes teams good? Spending money on talent.
 
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Right spending money on talent makes a team good but there have been plenty of big payroll flops like the cubs the previous two years.
 

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Right spending money on talent makes a team good but there have been plenty of big payroll flops like the cubs the previous two years.

I bet % of top payrolls winning is more then losing
 

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It easier to win spending money but it doesn't guarantee success. we have no idea what they will spend next year. anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.
 

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I still dont see Cubs spending money this FA year. They are to worried about trying to rebuild Wrigley. They dont know who the young core is yet. We all hope its Rizzo + Jackson + Castro + Garza + Shark. But we dont know cause they wont bring them up till they can save money.

Im prolly going to get slammed for this but i notice something from that list:

•Yankees: $119MM = Good Team
•Phillies: $113MM = Good Team
•Red Sox: $108MM = Good Team
•Dodgers: $103MM = Good Team
•Angels: $92MM = Good Team
•Tigers: $87MM = Good team ( under .500 but i assume be in race all year)
•Marlins: $85MM = Good Team
•Cardinals: $85MM = Good Team
•Rangers: $84MM = Good Team
•Giants: $81MM
•White Sox: $79MM
•Reds: $74MM
•Twins: $65MM
•Mets: $55MM
•Orioles: $53MM
•Blue Jays: $52MM
•Nationals: $52MM
•Brewers: $52MM
•Rockies: $46MM
•Diamondbacks: $45MM
•Mariners: $40MM = Bad
•Royals: $35MM = Bad
•Cubs: $35MM = Bad
•Athletics: $29MM = Bad
•Rays: $19MM = Good
•Pirates: $19MM = Bad
•Astros: $17MM = Bad
•Braves: $15MM = Good
•Indians: $11MM = Good
•Padres: $11MM = Bad


So the Top 10 teams spending money next year are all good

The bottom 10 teams only 3 teams are good

So to me what makes teams good? Spending money on talent.

Yanks are OK, Phils are strugging, Red Sox aren't playing good, then the other teams are OK besides the Rangers. The Cardinals are surprising me, but won't run away with anuthing. The Dodgers are a huge surprise to me.. etc. Money is not the answer.
 

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I still dont see Cubs spending money this FA year. They are to worried about trying to rebuild Wrigley. They dont know who the young core is yet. We all hope its Rizzo + Jackson + Castro + Garza + Shark. But we dont know cause they wont bring them up till they can save money.

Im prolly going to get slammed for this but i notice something from that list:

•Yankees: $119MM = 3rd place in division
•Phillies: $113MM = last place in division
•Red Sox: $108MM = last place
•Dodgers: $103MM = first place
•Angels: $92MM = second place and barely over .500
•Tigers: $87MM = 3rd place
•Marlins: $85MM = 2nd place
•Cardinals: $85MM = 2nd place
•Rangers: $84MM = Uno

•Giants: $81MM 2nd place
•White Sox: $79MM 1st place
•Reds: $74MM 1st place

•Twins: $65MM
•Mets: $55MM tied for 2nd
•Orioles: $53MM 1st place

•Blue Jays: $52MM
•Nationals: $52MM
•Brewers: $52MM
•Rockies: $46MM
•Diamondbacks: $45MM
•Mariners: $40MM = Bad
•Royals: $35MM = Bad
•Cubs: $35MM = Bad
•Athletics: $29MM = Bad
•Rays: $19MM = 2nd place
•Pirates: $19MM = Bad
•Astros: $17MM = Bad
•Braves: $15MM = 4th place
•Indians: $11MM = 2nd place

•Padres: $11MM = Bad


So the Top 10 teams spending money next year are all good

The bottom 10 teams only 3 teams are good

So to me what makes teams good? Spending money on talent.

those top teams are good? Looks like the middle of the pack is good to me :obama:
 

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The records may eventually normalize towards what they were projected to be at before the season but money is only one part of the equation.
 

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I bet % of top payrolls winning is more then losing

I swear to god you are flat out Special person, throwing money at a team works, for a whole couple years till (insert team like Phillies here) the team gets older injured and are in last place. The Phils did it the right way though. Look how long they contended. Now look at the Yanks, big money, how many championships since 2000? Old, beaten down, time is up
 

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The records may eventually normalize towards what they were projected to be at before the season but money is only one part of the equation.

Teams in the middle usually understand how to mesh expensive FA's and young kids together well, Not team in the top half that spend spend spend like D3A wants. Fuck if we drafted Pujols and he was in charge he would of never gotten a shot for the simple fact that there would be an over expensive player on the team at the time that would block the chance.
 

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The Yankees are also trying to trim payroll in advance of 2014 or so when the new CBA luxury tax penalties will take effect.
 

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I swear to god you are flat out Special person, throwing money at a team works, for a whole couple years till (insert team like Phillies here) the team gets older injured and are in last place. The Phils did it the right way though. Look how long they contended. Now look at the Yanks, big money, how many championships since 2000? Old, beaten down, time is up

Have more rings then Cubs since 2000 :nelson:
 

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I understand Cubs are not ready to spend money yet. I just pointing out the teams that are spending money are in contention. Where alot of teams at bottome are horrible.
 

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And the Cardinals have more rings than both the Yankees and Cubs durig that timeframe and spent less than each in years they won.
 

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I swear to god you are flat out Special person, throwing money at a team works, for a whole couple years till (insert team like Phillies here) the team gets older injured and are in last place. The Phils did it the right way though. Look how long they contended. Now look at the Yanks, big money, how many championships since 2000? Old, beaten down, time is up

the cubs will eventually have to spend money. you arent going to win a title with the potential of rizzo and jackson. Castro,garza and shark. They will have to get 2 corner outfielders, a 3bsmn, a ss because castro will be moved to 2b and barney sucks.

rotation will be:
garza
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and a bullpen.
 

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And the Cardinals have more rings than both the Yankees and Cubs durig that timeframe and spent less than each in years they won.

its not how much you spend its how you spend it.
 

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the cubs will eventually have to spend money. you arent going to win a title with the potential of rizzo and jackson. Castro,garza and shark. They will have to get 2 corner outfielders, a 3bsmn, a ss because castro will be moved to 2b and barney sucks.

rotation will be:
garza
shark
blank
blank
blank

and a bullpen.

They think that the team should be only built using draft. They think the Cubs are small market for some reason. They dont realize Cubs are in the 3rd largest city in the USA. Im not saying spending is going to make them win 100% but past has shown across the MLB that spending money gives you more of chance then just building team through draft. Why small and medium market teams have little windows.
 

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