2015 cubs in season trades

[wklink]

Geez, the whole reason we brought in guys like Epstein was because we mortaged our future in the past and created a salary heavy, overage team with minimal future prospects.

I said at the beginning of the year that if we are over .500 I will consider this a good year. This is a team that has four starting players with under 400 ABs in the Majors. This is a team that was built to contend for several years but we won't do that if we mortgage out future for short term success.

We are poised to contend for years. That means more than just getting one wildcard spot in one year. I'd like to revisit this thread in two years and wonder how far we would have gone if we had sold off our future.

 

[ChiSoxCity]

No, we won't be. All of the rookies will have a lot more experience and we're going to have a chance to sign a top notch free agent. If we were in position to win the NL Central, I guarantee you that we would've made a bigger trade at the deadline. Why mortgage the future for a possible wild card spot?

You're 10 games out of first place because you don't have enough offense. You have trade pieces to address this, but unlike every other team in contention, the Cubs sat on the proverbial hands and did what they do best.

By the way, how's that $155MM #2 starter working out for you guys?

 

[Parade_Rain]

You're 10 games out of first place because you don't have enough offense. You have trade pieces to address this, but unlike every other team in contention, the Cubs sat on the proverbial hands and did what they do best.

By the way, how's that $155MM #2 starter working out for you guys?

LOL. The Cubs aren't in contention. They may make the playoffs. They aren't in contention. Surely you aren't as obtuse as your posts indicate.

 

[beckdawg]

Gotta stop you right there. Any GM who doesn't trade Castro and/or Russel for Tulo is a certifiable nutjob. He's the best SS in baseball and it's not even close. Hell, I would have given Colorado Castro, Russel and three or four prospects for Tulo. Admittedly, SS is not a need for you guys, but passing up on Tulo if given the opportunity is epic fail.

Well I wasn't saying that they shouldn't have considered Tulo my point was just that it is arguably a place of strength for them. Then again the way Castro has played maybe not as much. Either way, my point was that if Castro starts to hit like the odd year Castro(ie not 2013 and not 2015 so far) that's a pretty huge addition. Additionally, if Russell and Soler start to hit like they are capable of it changes as much as any trade they could have made.

Ultimately that's the problem with the cubs making a big deadline deal this year. They are reliant on so many young players to come through and young players slump. If they had more of a vet roster I think you have a perfectly valid point. But with what they have it's entirely possible that they continue to struggle hitting the next 2-3 weeks and end up out of the race with or without help. Had they gone out and got Price or whomever big name you want to talk about and have something like that happen you cost yourself a lot of your future.

I think the cubs will be pretty active this coming offseason in adding pieces. Just think this particular season the cubs aren't as well positioned as some of the other teams for a playoff run. From the sounds of rumors the cubs tried to acquire cost controlled players like Teheran and Ross but deals weren't there.

 

[FrankieLyrical]

You're 10 games out of first place because you don't have enough offense. You have trade pieces to address this, but unlike every other team in contention, the Cubs sat on the proverbial hands and did what they do best.

By the way, how's that $155MM #2 starter working out for you guys?

Why would we address it this season though? We aren't winning the division, not a chance. And why mortgage the future for a 1 game playoff? That's ridiculous.

 

[FrankieLyrical]

LOL. The Cubs aren't in contention. They may make the playoffs. They aren't in contention. Surely you aren't as obtuse as your posts indicate.

He's either trolling or has no idea of the difference

 

[FrankieLyrical]

And let's not get shit twisted. Would i have liked to make a bigger move? Of course, but it's completely understandable why we didn't

 

[Parade_Rain]

He's either trolling or has no idea of the difference

He's a Sux fan. He doesn't likely know the difference. He's used to seeing his team futilely go for one WS every 5 decades as opposed to keeping all the core together for sustained, Yankee-like success.

 

[FrankieLyrical]

He's a Sux fan. He doesn't likely know the difference. He's used to seeing his team futilely go for one WS every 5 decades as opposed to keeping all the core together for sustained, Yankee-like success.

Bro, the Sox have a WINNING TRADITION! They won ONE world series in 100 years! Haven't you heard? They know how to win over there!

 

[Diehardfan]

Bro, the Sox have a WINNING TRADITION! They won ONE world series in 100 years! Haven't you heard? They know how to win over there!

He's over here for one reason....he gets a response here. There's 4 people on the Sox Forum and none of them are posting. I think he's lonely.

 

[FrankieLyrical]

He's over here for one reason....he gets a response here. There's 4 people on the Sox Forum and none of them are posting. I think he's lonely.

It's hard to get people on a forum when they're all packed into the stadium! Comiskey sells out everyday bro!

 

[Diehardfan]

It's hard to get people on a forum when they're all packed into the stadium! Comiskey sells out everyday bro!

 

[TL1961]

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.

All this happy horseshit about the farm system just means the Cubs aren't committed to winning RIGHT NOW.

If you ask me, it's a freaking disgrace that a team in a wild card race, and who hasn't even been to a WS in SEVEN decades, fails to make impactful moves prior to the trade deadline. They still need an ace-caliber pitcher and a power bat to contend. This is the reason no one takes Chicago sports seriously. Same old sorry @$$ Cubs.

Every village has one, and you're it.

 

[willycat]

Are you lost or just dumb? Love Lester! What hands did the sux FO sit on. BTW, that photo is disrespectful to the men and woman who served our country.

 

[Shawon0Meter]

You're all responding to a troll

 

[TL1961]

You're 10 games out of first place because you don't have enough offense. You have trade pieces to address this, but unlike every other team in contention, the Cubs sat on the proverbial hands and did what they do best.

By the way, how's that $155MM #2 starter working out for you guys?

Pretty good, actually.

He just finished the month of July with an ERA of 1.66 in 6 starts, which was even better than the 1.76 ERA he had in May in 6 starts.

He missed spring training and struggled early in the season, but since April has an ERA of 2.68.

So, to those who are actually informed, he looks pretty good.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

You're 10 games out of first place because you don't have enough offense. You have trade pieces to address this, but unlike every other team in contention, the Cubs sat on the proverbial hands and did what they do best.

By the way, how's that $155MM #2 starter working out for you guys?

While this year certainly has been a roller coaster, and I am no fan of Jon Lester, especially at that price (it will be an ugly contract in 3 years); you're not looking at big picture.

Cubs aren't looking at this year, they're looking at the next 5.

The cubs went and got 2 bottom of rotation pitchers for pennies on the dollar, both of which are better than Tsuyoshi Wada, Hendricks, Wood, EJax, Clayton Richard, and Dallas Beeler.

What the cubs need is consistency through experience. This time of year is a first for many on the cubs, the "dog days" of August and July where teams rise and fall, and those who fall, fall hard.

THe cubs aren't blowing it all on one season. And if they did, why this one? Next year would be far more likely to be successful.

I'm not thrilled they didn't get a better bat. When Montero is back full time, they HAVE to play Schwarber. **** Coghlan, you cant sit a bat that good.

And Castro, sorry--you've wasted the year. Its a down one. You're the odd man out. Move Russell to SS, put a body at 2b and keep this kid on the field playing.

 

[JZsportsfan]

Even if Lester's contract looks ugly in 3 years, they will already be 4 seasons into the contract with only 2 to go. Lester isn't a flame thrower type pitcher. He will age better than guys like Verlander will. In 3 years Lester probably won't be a TOR arm, but he will still be a very nice MOR arm

I wish they would have worked something out the blockbuster with the Padres. Adding Ross, Kimbrel, and Upton would be a game changer. Especially if they were able to sign Upton to an extension in the mean time. They probably floated some numbers out there and maybe he declined or something so they said no. Will never know what really happened. But the Padres didn't sell to anybody so the only way they were going to is if someone blew them away. And I'm glad the Cubs didn't do that

 

[Shawon0Meter]

Yeah. I'm glad the Cubs didn't do anything stupid. St Louis is impossible to catch and the Pirates and Giants, along with the now improved Mets make the 2015 playoffs far from a sure thing no matter what. If they're choosing to address things this off season instead of acting completely desperate in the moment, I'm fine with that.

 

[CSF77]

Promote Baez and make a run for now