DirtyDutchDiggler
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If we try going after Thompson, I would hope what just happened was a sprain. It looked bad.
If we try going after Thompson, I would hope what just happened was a sprain. It looked bad.
Back in the game.
Do people really think there's a possibility to leave? I can see him taking less money to stay with GS. I don't get the Harrison Barnes vibe from him.
That overturned charge was one of the worst calls I've seen.
With that said(and JRs obvious fuckery), you still have to try to not get smashed in OT. At that point, Bron was a bit tired and Cleveland was clearly outmatched.
This series is all but over it seems.
If 81% free throw shooter George Hill makes that second free throw, JR Smith never happens.
you cannot slide into taking a block once the offensive player has left the floor with his basketball move. Lue is a moron for thinking you can injure a player as long as you are outside the circle. Here is a note for you Tyrone, if James were 4 feet away from the circle, HE WOULD BE AT THE FUCKING FREE THROW LINE
All I thought about was John Paxson vindicating himself for dumping JR and his million dollar contract and never allowing him in the building after the Chandler trade.
The problem is not the call itself, pretty much every analyst afterwards said it's a clear charge, but how it was called/reviewed. It was called a charge on the floor and Lebron was clearly well outside the circle. The justification to go to replay review to overturn it was bogus.https://streamable.com/90pr0
It appears that wasn't the reason the play was reviewed in the first place though. It was initially a charge and then it was reviewed because they wanted to confirm whether or not he was in the circle(which he clearly wasn't, the justification which includes Jeff Green's foot is pretty silly). I think that's the only way they can review these calls when it's under 2 minutes in the 4th.
The VP even admits it's a "tie at best". So if you're reviewing the play for something different than whether or not LeBron was moving, AND there is any ambiguity in James' movement, why do you overturn the call in a 4th quarter <2 minute situation in the NBA finals?
Not a good look.
The problem is not the call itself, pretty much every analyst afterwards said it's a clear charge, but how it was called/reviewed. It was called a charge on the floor and Lebron was clearly well outside the circle. The justification to go to replay review to overturn it was bogus.
However, I have seen times before where the refs would congregate without replay and discuss the call and then go one way or the other (ie Tony Brothers called charge, and Kenny Maur called block, they discuss and go one way or another)...had they done that I think perhaps there is less rage over the call. Not sure if they can do that in that <2m scenario, but it's something I've seen before.
Game changing play in that situation, technically they made the right call, but how they got there definitely sucked the life out of the Cavs. Real time that looked like a charge though. :shrug:
Still, if Hill makes his free throws, maybe it doesn't matter. Or if Lebron just takes it himself (what's Curry gonna do anyway). Or if JR didn't screw up. Or if the Cavs in general could've made a 3. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
Honestly, after the game I felt as though Lebron had gotten shafted by the refs. It was an odd and confusing feeling.It's just surprising because I've heard that Lebron gets all of the calls.
As Lue pointed out in the post game, the situation around that review was rather unprecedented. I wouldn't say it cost them the game (though it certainly had a big impact). Saying that that called robbed the Cavs is a bit much imo.I guess the call itself wasn't bad, but in context the way they arrived to that conclusion was certainly not good.
And yea, this was not really the reason the Cavs lost. There were plenty of chances for them to win.
As Code and I discussed, it's the situation surrounding the review more so than the call itself that's more controversial. I don't think many would argue that Lebron took a charge there...feet were clearly not set.I'm surprised that this many people are bitching over the call. It was clear as day that LeBron didn't establish himself....he was still moving. I'm shocked the officials had the balls to go back and change it.
https://streamable.com/90pr0
It appears that wasn't the reason the play was reviewed in the first place though. It was initially a charge and then it was reviewed because they wanted to confirm whether or not he was in the circle(which he clearly wasn't, the justification which includes Jeff Green's foot is pretty silly). I think that's the only way they can review these calls when it's under 2 minutes in the 4th.
The VP even admits it's a "tie at best". So if you're reviewing the play for something different than whether or not LeBron was moving, AND there is any ambiguity in James' movement, why do you overturn the call in a 4th quarter <2 minute situation in the NBA finals?
Not a good look.
Asking a man to take a discount is always dangerous.
At some point he may want to think about his own hall of fame chances and reputation.
His HoF chances right now are zero. imo.
On another team he would have to boost his scoring to 25 pionts, stay healthy, play two ways, and win 1-2 more chips but I don't think those chances are "zero."
Gotta get boring being 4th most respected guy on a team with 4 trips to finals in a row.