2021-2022 IGT Masterthread

[knoxville7]

Or just quote respond and avoid the confusion. That's not hard either.



Shocked we have another Coby mention from his number one hater.

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Whenever I talk directly to an individual, I quote respond…pretty sure I understand how the message board works, been on it since 2013. If I had wanted to talk to you about it, I would of quote responded. I didn’t want to talk to you about it because I had a feeling it would lead to this utter nonsensical garbage

@Enasic and i get into it from time to time, but I still respect his opinion and that’s why I asked him about it.

I think Mrs. Coby White(you) is just a tad sensitive about anytime I mention coby. Which, btw I said nothing negative about him

 

[zack54attack]

Whenever I talk directly to an individual, I quote respond…pretty sure I understand how the message board works, been on it since 2013. If I had wanted to talk to you about it, I would of quote responded. I didn’t want to talk to you about it because I had a feeling it would lead to this utter nonsensical garbage

@Enasic and i get into it from time to time, but I still respect his opinion and that’s why I asked him about it.

then literally mention him. lmao. You didn't mention anyone in your response. So do you see how I took that as you responding to my original post?

 

[knoxville7]

then literally mention him. lmao. You didn't mention anyone in your response. So do you see how I took that as you responding to my original post?

I did respond directly to him right after that post…so you should be able to conclude I’m talking to him. The post you’re mentioning was a generic post to anyone that felt that particular way…hence, why it wasn’t @ any individual…because it wasnt meant for any particular individual

its not difficult to grasp

 

[Scoot26]

So back to Ayo replacing Lonzo...

 

[zack54attack]

lol. okay.


"Lol now we are trading Lonzo, huh?!

not happening"

Pretty generic post to say you're specifically talking to someone when both of us made the point.


Carry on with your day.

 

[knoxville7]

lol. okay.


"Lol now we are trading Lonzo, huh?!

not happening"

Pretty generic post to say you're specifically talking to someone when both of us made the point.


Carry on with your day.

Thats a totes diff post than the one you were just complaining about…make up your damn mind, or don’t…I don’t care anymore

 

[zack54attack]

It's not difficult to grasp that.



Sorry, I was talking to @Scoot26

 

[CHIBEAR]

Ayo doesn't really make anyone expendable at this time . I think ultimately what determines who will be expendable will be the playoffs .

I think we forget at times that Vuc only has one more year left and Demar only has 2 and I doubt we jump at the chance to pay either of them 30+ million per year unless we have some deep playoff runs .

Ayo, Ball, Zach could easily all start together

Gary Trent Jr of the Raps was a 2nd rd pick too and the Raptors after his 2nd year basically offered him a 3 year 54 million dollar deal instead of making the qualifying offer and making him a RFA

Devonte Graham another 2nd rd pick was sign and traded from the Hornets to the Pelicans for a 4 yr 47 million dollar deal after the Hornets made him a RFA but couldn't come to an agreement on a deal.


I think we are listening but will looking hard at the buyout market and will make our next big move at the draft once we get a good look a these guys after a playoff run

 

[Enasic]

So it makes lonzo expendable, but doesn’t it also make coby more expendable as well then?

id rather have two guys capable of running the offense from the PG spot…injuries happen as we are seeing

Yes, it would also make Coby expendable but Lonzo would have better trade value and makes more than Coby.

 

[zack54attack]

Ayo doesn't really make anyone expendable at this time . I think ultimately what determines who will be expendable will be the playoffs .

I think we forget at times that Vuc only has one more year left and Demar only has 2 and I doubt we jump at the chance to pay either of them 30+ million per year unless we have some deep playoff runs .

Ayo, Ball, Zach could easily all start together

Gary Trent Jr of the Raps was a 2nd rd pick too and the Raptors after his 2nd year basically offered him a 3 year 54 million dollar deal instead of making the qualifying offer and making him a RFA

Devonte Graham another 2nd rd pick was sign and traded from the Hornets to the Pelicans for a 4 yr 47 million dollar deal after the Hornets made him a RFA but couldn't come to an agreement on a deal.


I think we are listening but will looking hard at the buyout market and will make our next big move at the draft once we get a good look a these guys after a playoff run

Fair. But if you want a big man down the line, I could see them making Ball expendable if Ayo continues to be this good. And I wouldn't mind that at all.

 

[knoxville7]

Yes, it would also make Coby expendable but Lonzo would have better trade value and makes more than Coby.

Those are fair points. I would just be worried about depth at that point. But maybe they could find a solid backup to Ayo if they went down that path. I still love the idea of keeping both due to their abilities defensively and to hit 3’s

 

[zack54attack]

And to be clear, they aren't trading Lonzo this year. Just a thought for the future.

I don't think they are going to trade really any of Coby, PWill, Lonzo etc this year.

 

[zack54attack]

Yes, it would also make Coby expendable but Lonzo would have better trade value and makes more than Coby.

Good response here.

 

[Enasic]

Ayo expires after next season, so I wouldn't get too excited about that rookie deal.

Right but if he proves to be more dynamic on offense and not just a 3 pt shooter, plays as good of defense or better, and is just as good a playmaker or better, then you have to make a very tough decision.

As it stands, Ayo has shown his offensive game is more varied than Lonzo, IMO. Defensively, they’re very comparable. You can argue that Ayo has the potential to be an even better play maker. Lonzo is the better 3 pt shooter though.

Again, not saying go out and trade Lonzo but he certainly isn’t untouchable and on his 2nd knee injury already which is another factor you have to look at.

 

[zack54attack]

Right but if he proves to be more dynamic on offense and not just a 3 pt shooter, plays as good of defense or better, and is just as good a playmaker or better, then you have to make a very tough decision.

As it stands, Ayo has shown his offensive game is more varied than Lonzo, IMO. Defensively, they’re very comparable. You can argue that Ayo has the potential to be an even better play maker. Lonzo is the better 3 pt shooter though.

Again, not saying go out and trade Lonzo but he certainly isn’t untouchable and on his 2nd knee injury already which is another factor you have to look at.

Another good response here! Direct and to the point!

 

[PeterG]

Keep Ayo. I'm a fan.

 

[Scoot26]

Right but if he proves to be more dynamic on offense and not just a 3 pt shooter, plays as good of defense or better, and is just as good a playmaker or better, then you have to make a very tough decision.

As it stands, Ayo has shown his offensive game is more varied than Lonzo, IMO. Defensively, they’re very comparable. You can argue that Ayo has the potential to be an even better play maker. Lonzo is the better 3 pt shooter though.

Again, not saying go out and trade Lonzo but he certainly isn’t untouchable and on his 2nd knee injury already which is another factor you have to look at.

Oh he's certainly not untouchable. I think if Ayo continues to grow as a player, takes a leap next season you certainly make it an option.

But the Bulls just signed him, so the idea they're going to trade him prior to the end of year 2 (short of an amazing trade deadline offer next year) is sort of blasphemy at this point in terms of realism. Though, no one has really said when they'd proposed trading Lonzo. Zach just said trade Lonzo, keep Ayo. Which can be interpreted many ways.

The 2nd knee injury is actually likely to hurt his value a bit.

 

[zack54attack]

The Bulls are in first place and we are all having conversations about trading players or keeping them for a good thing.

How far we've come since a few years.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Or just quote respond and avoid the confusion. That's not hard either.



Shocked we have another Coby mention from his number one hater.

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I am the #1 coby hater. @knoxville7 cannot have that title

 

[zack54attack]

I am the #1 coby hater. @knoxville7 cannot have that title

You guys can debate that.

I have snow to shovel.