24th civil suit filed against Watson..

[Calabis]

You've even had women who didn't sue him say he was inappropriate

You've even had women who didn't sue him say he was inappropriate

Just nothing reliable enough to charge the guy with rape or sexual assault..so it's basically he said/she said.

Do I think the guy has a fetish...yup, just like I'm sure u have one and everyone on here commenting. Do I think the guy is out there raping women and forcing them to do stuff....2 grand jurys said no, the others didn't feel they wanted to go criminal, yet are cool with suing....that shit there alone raises flags.

I'll wait, because suing in civil, is a bs move...even if he settles to save money, u will bitch and moan he is guilty, although 2 separate criminal courts/counties, said there isn't enough to warrant a trial.

Also one of those women admitted to banging him in two separate sessions. That's the comical shit...majority say how they were offended, yet gave him another massage after...gtfoh.

Last 18 other women gave statements to support Watson...yet that does not matter either right?

Deshaun Watson finds support from 18 women amid sexual misconduct allegations | Fox News

Embattled Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, who is facing 21 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct against him, is finding support from more than a dozen physical and massage therapists.

www.google.com

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Just nothing reliable enough to charge the guy with rape or sexual assault..so it's basically he said/she said.

Do I think the guy has a fetish...yup, just like I'm sure u have one and everyone on here commenting. Do I think the guy is out there raping women and forcing them to do stuff....2 grand jurys said no, the others didn't feel they wanted to go criminal, yet are cool with suing....that shit there alone raises flags.

I'll wait, because suing in civil, is a bs move...even if he settles to save money, u will bitch and moan he is guilty, although 2 separate criminal courts/counties, said there isn't enough to warrant a trial.

Also one of those women admitted to banging him in two separate sessions. That's the comical shit...majority say how they were offended, yet gave him another massage after...gtfoh.

Last 18 other women gave statements to support Watson...yet that does not matter either right?

Deshaun Watson finds support from 18 women amid sexual misconduct allegations | Fox News

Embattled Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, who is facing 21 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct against him, is finding support from more than a dozen physical and massage therapists.

www.google.com

No it doesn't matter

Because it only takes one time for a chick to say no. Just because one of the women admitted to banging him doesn't mean they all were willing to

 

[run and shoot]

Just nothing reliable enough to charge the guy with rape or sexual assault..so it's basically he said/she said.

Do I think the guy has a fetish...yup, just like I'm sure u have one and everyone on here commenting. Do I think the guy is out there raping women and forcing them to do stuff....2 grand jurys said no, the others didn't feel they wanted to go criminal, yet are cool with suing....that shit there alone raises flags.

I'll wait, because suing in civil, is a bs move...even if he settles to save money, u will bitch and moan he is guilty, although 2 separate criminal courts/counties, said there isn't enough to warrant a trial.

Also one of those women admitted to banging him in two separate sessions. That's the comical shit...majority say how they were offended, yet gave him another massage after...gtfoh.

Last 18 other women gave statements to support Watson...yet that does not matter either right?

Deshaun Watson finds support from 18 women amid sexual misconduct allegations | Fox News

Embattled Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, who is facing 21 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct against him, is finding support from more than a dozen physical and massage therapists.

www.google.com

Also,,,,I'd trust that you'd terminate the massage session if the guy pulled this on ya....

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[Calabis]

No it doesn't matter

Because it only takes one time for a chick to say no. Just because one of the women admitted to banging him doesn't mean they all were willing to

Yup, they say no, and then turn around and have that same individual come around again, for round 2 or 3...makes sense.

 

[Calabis]

Also,,,,I'd trust that you'd terminate the massage session if the guy pulled this on ya....

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Lmao

 

[mattb78]

Yup, they say no, and then turn around and have that same individual come around again, for round 2 or 3...makes sense.

So if some of the claims are fabricated, yet some of the claims are true, how does this affect what should happen to Watson?

When an employer who is not privy to a criminal investigation seeks to punish their employee for alleged behavior, I think this is a very difficult situation to fairly enforce. Nobody wants the NFL going easy on sexual misconduct, but what should an employer do in the absence of criminal charges?

I think its a very tough situation for the NFL to fairly enforce either way.

 

[Visionman]

So if some of the claims are fabricated, yet some of the claims are true, how does this affect what should happen to Watson?

When an employer who is not privy to a criminal investigation seeks to punish their employee for alleged behavior, I think this is a very difficult situation to fairly enforce. Nobody wants the NFL going easy on sexual misconduct, but what should an employer do in the absence of criminal charges?

I think its a very tough situation for the NFL to fairly enforce either way.

One thing they don’t want to do is jump the gun. But that puts his team and Watson in a difficult spot.

Then again, they all knew what they were doing, so have no one to blame but themselves…

 

[mattb78]

Situations like this are a mess for the NFL. How does the NFL fairly decide punishment and what should an employer do on top of what the criminal and civil courts are there to do?

Doing nothing, especially like in the Ray Rice situation, would not be acceptable. But how much can you punish someone when no criminal charges were filed and all the civil cases get settled?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Situations like this are a mess for the NFL. How does the NFL fairly decide punishment and what should an employer do on top of what the criminal and civil courts are there to do?

Doing nothing, especially like in the Ray Rice situation, would not be acceptable. But how much can you punish someone when no criminal charges were filed and all the civil cases get settled?

That's why the commissioners exempt list exists, but they seem pretty set on not using that for Watson for some reason

 

[Icculus]

A lack of charges didn't stop Goodell from suspending legendary woman respecting icon Ben Roethlisberger for four games after he was accused of sexual assault for the second time in 2010.

 

[Bearly]

Just nothing reliable enough to charge the guy with rape or sexual assault..so it's basically he said/she said.

Do I think the guy has a fetish...yup, just like I'm sure u have one and everyone on here commenting. Do I think the guy is out there raping women and forcing them to do stuff....2 grand jurys said no, the others didn't feel they wanted to go criminal, yet are cool with suing....that shit there alone raises flags.

I'll wait, because suing in civil, is a bs move...even if he settles to save money, u will bitch and moan he is guilty, although 2 separate criminal courts/counties, said there isn't enough to warrant a trial.

Also one of those women admitted to banging him in two separate sessions. That's the comical shit...majority say how they were offended, yet gave him another massage after...gtfoh.

Last 18 other women gave statements to support Watson...yet that does not matter either right?

Deshaun Watson finds support from 18 women amid sexual misconduct allegations | Fox News

Embattled Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, who is facing 21 lawsuits alleging sexual misconduct against him, is finding support from more than a dozen physical and massage therapists.

www.google.com

Problem is that if he only fucked over one of these girls, he's still a dirt bag. That many of them may be here looking for a free ride on the gravy train doesn't change that. From the testimony so far, it does appear that the DA steered the jury away from a trial. WTF wouldn't you want the lead detective to testify unless you were hiding that evidence/opinion?

That some of these women were willing participants does not change this for some that may not have been. I don't like the broad brush approach but then it's also here because it's basically turned into a class action with the lawyer likely recruiting more victims for a greater overall payoff. This snake is going to make >$10m himself but it doesn't change the fact that Deshaun was very, very likely inappropriate to the point of distress with at least some of these women.

 

[Bearly]

So if some of the claims are fabricated, yet some of the claims are true, how does this affect what should happen to Watson?

When an employer who is not privy to a criminal investigation seeks to punish their employee for alleged behavior, I think this is a very difficult situation to fairly enforce. Nobody wants the NFL going easy on sexual misconduct, but what should an employer do in the absence of criminal charges?

I think its a very tough situation for the NFL to fairly enforce either way.

You take your best shot. Happens all the time and the NFL has plenty of inside info here with private investigators on retainer. I think they handled the WA coach speaking out correctly by leaving it in house and the Watson punishment will not be as bad as some may think. Watson will pay $30 to $60M contingent on NDAs, the league will suspend him with consideration for time served on the sidelines and that will be that.

What's important is that Watson doesn't let this go to the courts and really, he's got no one to blame but himself. Those are some costly nutters.

 

[mattb78]

Watson will pay $30 to $60M contingent on NDAs

I don't think he will pay that much to be honest. I don't see the cases valued at 1-2 million dollars each. We will never know what he paid because there will be confidentiality in the settlements. He obviously will pay a premium because he doesn't want a public trial, but many of these girls likely do not want a trial either. I would even venture to say that some of the less egregious cases will settle for less than 100k.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I don't think he will pay that much to be honest. I don't see the cases valued at 1-2 million dollars each. We will never know what he paid because there will be confidentiality in the settlements. He obviously will pay a premium because he doesn't want a public trial, but many of these girls likely do not want a trial either. I would even venture to say that some of the less egregious cases will settle for less than 100k.

He would have already paid for this issue to go away if that was his plan. He's obviously not doing that

 

[Bearcub13]

Funny, I have had a number of sports massages in my life, and yet in none of them was sex ever involved. I am clearly doing something wrong...

 

[Aquineas]

I love Rich Eisen's comments on this story.

 

[Bearly]

He would have already paid for this issue to go away if that was his plan. He's obviously not doing that

Takes a while to determine an amount and the lawyer representing the accusers is likely in no hurry to max this out. The longer Watson sits, the better the accuser's leverage. His new contract sure didn't hurt the accusers. I wouldn't put it past the Texans/Houston DA to get him off the criminal charges to be able to move him.

What's the alternative? If you think Watson wants this to be a public court display like the Amber Turd case, you're not paying attention. Deshaun Wakson?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Takes a while to determine an amount and the lawyer representing the accusers is likely in no hurry to max this out. The longer Watson sits, the better the accuser's leverage. His new contract sure didn't hurt the accusers. I wouldn't put it past the Texans/Houston DA to get him off the criminal charges to be able to move him.

What's the alternative? If you think Watson wants this to be a public court display like the Amber Turd case, you're not paying attention. Deshaun Wakson?

I mean he's been pretty insistent that he doesn't want to settle and will have his name cleared. He's already had his name drug through the mud quite a bit, so if he believes he can win the case, he might go for it. I guess we'll see

 

[Bearly]

I mean he's been pretty insistent that he doesn't want to settle and will have his name cleared. He's already had his name drug through the mud quite a bit, so if he believes he can win the case, he might go for it. I guess we'll see

Could be but what would you expect him say?

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Could be but what would you expect him say?

No comment like most people do with legal issues