[A] Corey Crawford's "Upper-body" Injury

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I hear ya..



It's just some of the assumptions/accusations that the Hawks are for some reason forcing or playing guys that are concussed and don't care about their well beings ...or have them go through tests/protocals for players to pass to be sure they are 100% cleared



Hawks in the past held Toews out for the majority of last year...they are the first team to bring team physicians on the road with them...its foolish to think the Hawks would intentionall put a concussed player on the ice

Who is accusing/assuming? Personally, I don't think we know dick. We know what the Hawks told us: UPPER BODY INJURY. That could be all kinds of things, including a concussion,vertigo, dizziness caused by dehydration, etc.
 

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You do know...it could be dehydration/flu bug right? That goalies sweat a ridiculous amount in games...and there were IV's being seen going into the Hawks dressing room as well, right?



So..just as some are jumping to a conclusion it's a concussion 1000%....it can be something as minor as dehydration

This is exactly what i thought. Some sort of electrolyte imbalance leading to skating imbalance. It reminded me of those stupid wedding videos where one of the party just keels over after standing around doing nothing... (like Crawford was doing). I don't see anything bad coming of this (I hope).
 

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Lol, nice catch. I can live with that.



I hear ya..



It's just some of the assumptions/accusations that the Hawks are for some reason forcing or playing guys that are concussed and don't care about their well beings ...or have them go through tests/protocals for players to pass to be sure they are 100% cleared



Hawks in the past held Toews out for the majority of last year...they are the first team to bring team physicians on the road with them...its foolish to think the Hawks would intentionall put a concussed player on the ice



Yeah I don't think they would either. I have a hard time believing Crawford could pass a test if he can't even skate to the bench. I know that the symptoms could pop up, but I don't think I've seen a concussed player skate like that 2 weeks after the fact. Then again, I've never seen a concussed player skate two weeks after the fact because usually if they are concussed they aren't skating until they can pass the tests. Call it a catch 22, lol.



Quenneville could be lying to the media (or so some think), sure, but if there is slight truth in him saying (paraphrasing here) "there wasn't a defining moment" in when he got injured, then it brings some light on a situation where Crawford was dehydrated. On the flip side, that also could fit in with vertigo too.



Which I will say, I don't think Quenneville outright lies to the media, I think he just doesn't release a lot of information. If you read between the lines though, sometimes you can figure it out.
 

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Corey Crawford on the ice this morning.......Anyone still think it was concussion symptoms?

Also, I doubt it was dehydration. It takes extreme levels of dehydration to get to that point. Unless he also had massive diarrhea/vomiting all day it's very unlikely it was dehydration.
 

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Was the first injury every confirmed a concussion? I didn't see that anywhere?
 

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Was the first injury every confirmed a concussion? I didn't see that anywhere?
No, it was assumed by most.

Just curious, are other teams as secretive about injuries as the Hawks or are the beat reporters in Chicago just bad?
 

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Never confirmed, but some pretty reliable sources backed it up.



I'm sure Quenneville was referring to that when he said it's not the same as the last injury.
 

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Come on phrank the scientist! Until modern medicine can more clearly document the causes and symptoms of concussions and come up with more complete and effective treatments, you simply can't say that X symptoms lead to Y ailment.



But to your credit, you did say "unlikely". I will hold all reservations until someone producers a Star Trek-esque tricorder and uses it on Corey.
 

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Who is accusing/assuming? Personally, I don't think we know dick. We know what the Hawks told us: UPPER BODY INJURY. That could be all kinds of things, including a concussion,vertigo, dizziness caused by dehydration, etc.



Maybe not you...but there was someone else that was
 

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Well, at this point we're all speculating so we have to go on what's presented to us, which isn't much.
 

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Well, at this point we're all speculating so we have to go on what's presented to us, which isn't much.

Then I think he farted really hard and gave himself a moment of temporary blindness and imbalance.
 

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This is exactly what i thought. Some sort of electrolyte imbalance leading to skating imbalance. It reminded me of those stupid wedding videos where one of the party just keels over after standing around doing nothing... (like Crawford was doing). I don't see anything bad coming of this (I hope).
That's due to postural or orthotstatic hypotenstion. Happens a lot in the military too when they make soldiers stand at attention for a long time. It's also a possibility.
 

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Well, at this point we're all speculating so we have to go on what's presented to us, which isn't much.



That's all a message board is really for, after all, isn't it?



I think we've all brought some good points to the table here. Also glad to hear he is at practice.
 

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That's due to postural or orthotstatic hypotenstion. Happens a lot in the military too when they make soldiers stand at attention for a long time. It's also a possibility.

Been there, done that.
 

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I think he was too drunk to goaltend
 

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Rumor has it he was on the ice today...and taking extra shots....meaning probably Emery tonight...but Crawford is good enough to be on the ice
 

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