[A] Rookie Goalie Gives Hawks Fits: CHI 1, DAL 3

[Shoots_he_scores]

Pretty much agree with this entire post. You never saw that side of Crawford last season. Best memory he can have is no memory at all at this point, definitely something that needs to be worked on. From my experience, no reaction is the best reaction.



That said, I thought Crawford played well... can't really blame him on any of those goals. I understand why he would be frustrated, and it's OK to feel like that, just don't show it.

Exactly, Crow needs to keep composure. He was great at that last year and it was a big reason why he was able to play as well as he did. As we've seen with Luongo, when a goalie loses it between the ears it doesn't matter what kind of talent he has. Not saying that was the source of Crow's problems during the streak and his slump, but he needs to focus completely on his game, don't let defensive breakdowns or offensive slumps affect you as a goaltender because there's nothing you can do.



Crow's been great lately, but I still think he needs to be a little more composed after goals. Rex, with some goalies that fiery side works, Belfour was one but that was his style, Crow is a more technique calm goaltender, if his mind isn't in that state, then his body won't follow.

 

[Rex]

Exactly, Crow needs to keep composure. He was great at that last year and it was a big reason why he was able to play as well as he did. As we've seen with Luongo, when a goalie loses it between the ears it doesn't matter what kind of talent he has. Not saying that was the source of Crow's problems during the streak and his slump, but he needs to focus completely on his game, don't let defensive breakdowns or offensive slumps affect you as a goaltender because there's nothing you can do.



Crow's been great lately, but I still think he needs to be a little more composed after goals. Rex, with some goalies that fiery side works, Belfour was one but that was his style, Crow is a more technique calm goaltender, if his mind isn't in that state, then his body won't follow.

I'll have to take your word for it, since I was always the fiery type of goalie ala Ron Hextal, and my boyhood hero, Eddie the Eagle

 

[LordKOTL]

Pretty much sums up the 3rd.

 

[roshinaya]

Why does it seem that whenever the Hawks face a rookie goalie or someone with minimal NHL experience they all play like all-stars and just frustrate the Hawks.

 

[supraman]

Exactly, Crow needs to keep composure. He was great at that last year and it was a big reason why he was able to play as well as he did. As we've seen with Luongo, when a goalie loses it between the ears it doesn't matter what kind of talent he has. Not saying that was the source of Crow's problems during the streak and his slump, but he needs to focus completely on his game, don't let defensive breakdowns or offensive slumps affect you as a goaltender because there's nothing you can do.



Crow's been great lately, but I still think he needs to be a little more composed after goals. Rex, with some goalies that fiery side works, Belfour was one but that was his style, Crow is a more technique calm goaltender, if his mind isn't in that state, then his body won't follow.

Don't forget Huet. He skill wise is a servicable starter but he's a head case

I'll have to take your word for it, since I was always the fiery type of goalie ala Ron Hextal, and my boyhood hero, Eddie the Eagle

I like that too but my favorite goalie is the one that's all over the place. Habby, Niemi, Hasek types. It is my opinion (and I'm probably wrong but **** off anyway) that they always make it look like a big save (when in reality it was textbook for them) but those flashy saves are morale boosters. If nothing else if they are playing at home they keep the home crowd excited.

 

[LordKOTL]

Honestly, I'm not blaming Dr. Craw on this one...it seriously looked like in the third, the wheels just fell off of all of the skaters and right after the 3rd goal the team tried to play catch-up.



4 games of playing a good, full 60. This last one...not so much.

 

[R K]

someone on Twitter said they would like some consistency from the Hawks. Well when having a lead going in the 3rd period before last night the Hawks were 22-0-2.



I'd say that's pretty consistent. Without the captain the last 10 minutes last night they were not able to over come. Did they sit back with the lead, I don't buy that either they hit two posts in the 2nd, their goalie stoned Hayes. They were making opportunites, just not cashing in. I'll take losses like last night long before some of those losses during the 9 game streak where they weren't even getting 15 minutes of solid hockey.



Lets see how they come out in LA. And if Toews is back. Him not in the line up is HUGE!

 

[LordKOTL]

Thats why i didn't say, "they mailed it in". Effort didn't seem the issue, they seemed to play with the full intensity across the 60, just for a part of the third, everything went to hell. I can't even put my finger on what went wrong, just that it did.



Well, no team has ever gone 82-0. A 4 game streak is a 4 game streak. We'll see how they fare Sat.

 

[bierboy]

Ron we were outshot 15-5 in the third period. If that's not sitting back with the lead, I don't know what is...

 

[LordKOTL]

Ron we were outshot 15-5 in the third period. If that's not sitting back with the lead, I don't know what is...

The thing is, it didn't look like we were outshot per a lack of actual desire to shoot. It's not like we were passing the puck back an forth looking for the perfect opportunity, or just futzing around trying to be cute. It looked like the hockey gods just wouldn't let anything start.

 

[Ton]

If not for the post, and some lucky saves by Bachman, this is a very different game... regardless of the breakdowns in the 3rd.



I'm not too worried about this one.



On another note, it is getting quite frustrating watching all the back-up/rookie goaltenders that are stoning the Hawks the past few years.

 

[Ashor-redtribe]

If not for the post, and some lucky saves by Bachman, this is a very different game... regardless of the breakdowns in the 3rd.



I'm not too worried about this one.



It is getting quite annoying though with all the back-up/rookie goaltenders that are stoning the Hawks the past few years.

I agree with Ton, many posts hit. Crawford played great I will not blame him for three redirect goals. You can not sit there like fucken pylons and have the Stars skate around you.Q should have called a time out after the first goal. It seems like every fucking goal Leddy is there looking lost. With a one goal lead with that much left in the game Hossa should no better then to cheat up. I was upset about the game, but its not like they played like shit the entire game, besides the way the D has been playing the last four games this doesn't bother me that much. Lets see how tight they come out against the Kings. Hopefully Toews makes the trip. PP no show again...anyone has the game and date of the last goal on PP.



and last but not least when will they let Kitchen go, he is killing this team.

 

[R K]

Didn't we only get one PP last night? And Tony I agree with you. They have not sat on their lead all year which the 20-0-2 shows after leading through two.



Don't think last night was any different. If you heard Otts interview the Stars changed some things up in the 2nd break. I think that threw the Hawks off some.

 

[Ton]

Another thing nobody mentioned, but I mentioned in the original post... the Hawks were outhit 41 to 15.



Now, I'm not really a believer in the fact that the Hawks have to outhit every team, but that is such a large margin I think it definitely had a negative impact on their game. They have to find a way to deal with that, by the 3rd period their lack of physicality was pretty obvious on each goal, allowing the Stars plenty of space around the net. They don't have to outhit each team, but they do have to be more involved.

 

[R K]

I agree somewhat but they were out hit by that margin in Columbus or similar and won 6-1. They finish some of those chances like you say and no matter that stat it's a different out come.

 

[Ton]

29 to 8 in the Columbus game.



Either way, not saying they have to hit more, but it seemed like in the 3rd period they were shying away from the physical/tough areas which provided enough space for the Stars to eventually win it. During their 4 game winning streak, they were much tighter through the 60 minutes. Not really something I see as a big problem going forward but it was definitely a slip-up for this game.

 

[Tim]

They folded after that Dallas first goal. Still a fragile psyche after that horrible losing streak.







Don't think last night was any different. If you heard Otts interview the Stars changed some things up in the 2nd break. I think that threw the Hawks off some.





In other words "outcoached" down the stretch.

 

[R K]

I wasn't going to go that far buddy! But if I had to continue that's where I'd go. Was funny Kitchen was talking to Seabrook on the bench, I went to make a comment, then seconds later, bam goal in the back of our net.



Again teams wanting to win the Cup do not have two rookies in their Top four D. And yes I consider Leddy to still be a rookie.

 

[klemmer]

Didn't we only get one PP last night? And Tony I agree with you. They have not sat on their lead all year which the 20-0-2 shows after leading through two.



Don't think last night was any different. If you heard Otts interview the Stars changed some things up in the 2nd break. I think that threw the Hawks off some.

Then, it's up to the coaches to make adjustments

 

[supraman]

I agree somewhat but they were out hit by that margin in Columbus or similar and won 6-1. They finish some of those chances like you say and no matter that stat it's a different out come.

You stat guys what was the time of attack last night and what was the TOA in the columbus game