A Tribute to Keith Bogans

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umm......62-20?

I don't understand it either, but it's worked so far. Good enough for me.

Exactly, at this point with what Thibs has done, why question him now? Maybe you did it when the Bulls were 3rd, 4th in the conference...but they have the best record in the damn league!!! Nitpicking is not necessary...
 

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the playoffs are a different animal. bogans has been ineffective on offense and mediocre on defense. the bulls are in this game, because derrick rose is a star. No one has helped him at all. no one. this isn't going to work for the playoffs. get bogans out of there, and get cj and korver in there. bogans played 11 minutes in the 3rd quarter. our offense was pathetic. p-a-t-h-e-t-i-c.
 
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the playoffs are a different animal. bogans has been ineffective on offense and mediocre on defense. the bulls are in this game, because derrick rose is a star. No one has helped him at all. no one. this isn't going to work for the playoffs. get bogans out of there, and get cj and korver in there. bogans played 11 minutes in the 3rd quarter. our offense was pathetic. p-a-t-h-e-t-i-c.

Since no one helped him...Bogans is who you look at? Not Deng, Not Boozer...Bogans? I disagree wholeheartedly with your assessment. I blame Boozer for the mistakes he made on the offensive end. If Bogans, at the end of this playoff shoots an acceptable percentage from outside and plays good defense and plays tough...I am find with it, because that is ALL that is expected of him. If everyone else does as they are supposed to do...you don't have to worry about Bogans...
 

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i agree about boozer. I wrote this in the 3rd quarter. The bulls were pretty terrible on offense and defense in the 3rd quarter. Bogans played well into the 3rd.

Deng stepped it up in the 4th quarter. In spite of his turnovers and defense, korver played pretty well today.

Am i being completely unreasonable by asking bogans to play significantly less minutes, instead of playing well into the 3rd quarter? Instead of 15, how bout we lower his minutes to 10 or 8. why is that crazy?

btw bogans is the only player on the bulls with a plus minus of -13. I think deng had a plus ten, and rose had 3 or 4, but he played a lot of minutes with bogans and boozer.
 

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I am find with it, because that is ALL that is expected of him. If everyone else does as they are supposed to do...you don't have to worry about Bogans...

the argument isn't whether bogans is culpable. it's whether bogans worth playing 15 minutes a night. I don't think he is. Consequently, whether or not he performs up to his expectations is of no consequence. Bogans performing at chief expectations, is just not good enough to warrant minutes.
 

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Bogans was solid on defense in the 1st quarter. I know he has gotten the reputation from the national media for his defense, but he actually brought it for a good 8 minutes.

Unfortunately, the Bulls don't have much choice to push him in bad matchups. We can afford to play Bogans and get less effectiveness from him against the Pacers, but we can't afford to NOT have a healthy Ronnie Brewer against whoever we play in the 2nd round. J-Rich or Joe Johnson would TEAR Bogans a new asshole in extended minutes.
 

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the argument isn't whether bogans is culpable. it's whether bogans worth playing 15 minutes a night. I don't think he is. Consequently, whether or not he performs up to his expectations is of no consequence. Bogans performing at chief expectations, is just not good enough to warrant minutes.

Bring back Captain Kirk! :buttrock:
 

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If Bogans, at the end of this playoff shoots an acceptable percentage from outside and plays good defense and plays tough...I am find with it,.


the problem with this argument is that bogans didn't shoot an acceptable percentage. he scored 0 pts tonight. Name one other starter in the history of the nba that played 17:17 minutes and scored 0 pts?
 

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the problem with this argument is that bogans didn't shoot an acceptable percentage. he scored 0 pts tonight. Name one other starter in the history of the nba that played 17:17 minutes and scored 0 pts?

I'd probably have to look it up, but I know Ben Wallace wasn't a scorer for the Pistons when they had a couple playoff runs in the mid-2000s.
 

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Bogans was solid on defense in the 1st quarter. I know he has gotten the reputation from the national media for his defense, but he actually brought it for a good 8 minutes.

Unfortunately, the Bulls don't have much choice to push him in bad matchups. We can afford to play Bogans and get less effectiveness from him against the Pacers, but we can't afford to NOT have a healthy Ronnie Brewer against whoever we play in the 2nd round. J-Rich or Joe Johnson would TEAR Bogans a new asshole in extended minutes.

THIS i'll agree with completely. in stretches, bogans played with effort. Also, i agree, if brewer is still hurt, keep on him on the bench. Let's endure bogans.
 

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I'm ok with Bogans, and not just because of my SN.

He just needs to hit a decent percentage of his open looks and play decent D. I think having him come off the bench will be counterproductive because the bench mob can't hide his deficiencies like the starters can.
 

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He had 3 shots (all 3s), 3 rebs, and 1 foul. Other than that, there was no evidence that he played.
 

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