Aaron Rodgers believed McCarthy had "lowest football IQ" of any coach he ever had

[KittiesKorner]

I did not know that McCarthy had a low football Iq. I always thought he looked like Rosie O'Donnell!

 

[Rob219_CBMB]

So in reality we got our asses kick by these fucking imbeciles.....

 

[Bearly]

Moral of the story, dicklickers lick dick and make me smile from afar.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

I did not know that McCarthy had a low football Iq. I always thought he looked like Rosie O'Donnell!

I think its odd that most NFL head coaches who are in the business for a long time eventually start to resemble lesbians. McCarthy, Bill Parcells, John Fox, etc.

 

[Enasic]

I know. Reading is hard. And being informed? **** that.

You da man, botfly. Reading pages upon pages of Aaron Rodgers and packers gossip. One day I will read as much and be as informed as you.

 

[Doubledown]

Toxic.

 

[run and shoot]

Aaron Rodgers has denied these allegations

 

[BearFanJohn]

I would be upset if GB is in disarray this year. Or the next. And.....

 

[IRATES]

I agree. McCarthy probably is one of the lowest IQ coaches out there. Was blessed with a QB like Rodgers his whole career. Was sad to see the Packers finally move on from him.

Dude made the dumbest decisions such as getting away from the run when it was working (as Bears fans we can relate unfortunately)

 

[botfly10]

You da man, botfly. Reading pages upon pages of Aaron Rodgers and packers gossip. One day I will read as much and be as informed as you.

True, its just the dumb packers, but still pretty interesting to get a peek behind the closed door, complete with broad historical context. And the insights likely apply well beyond just the packers. Story like this probably is not all that rare in the NFL. Other than maybe how long it went on for.

 

[Doubledown]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1114287689140801536

 

[Enasic]

True, its just the dumb packers, but still pretty interesting to get a peek behind the closed door, complete with broad historical context. And the insights likely apply well beyond just the packers. Story like this probably is not all that rare in the NFL. Other than maybe how long it went on for.

I don’t disagree and I didn’t mean to be an ass with my response. I just hate the packers and none of this means much to me without beating them in the season. Need to start sweeping those **** heads.

 

[Teddy KGB]

When they decided to try the running game commitment thing I thought it was baffling and hilarious that McCarthy bascially would call a run on first and second down every single set, then Rodgers would complete the third down 8 out of 10 whether it was 3rd and 3 or 3rd and 13.

Haha...Rodgers did bail that idiot out alot. Its true.

Even more baffling is why he didn't get canned 3-4 years ago?

Given the toxic stupidity of everyone there, you don't think McCarthy was just trying to **** over Rodgers, and on 3rd down, Aaron just went "oh yeah, watch this!"

 

[Teddy KGB]

Nobody outside of the state of Wisconsin is shedding a tear for the Packers. This is still a franchise that's enjoyed nothing but Hall of Fame quarterbacks since 1992. Pull up the highlights of Rodgers and McCarthy celebrating, not the ones of Rodgers and McCarthy fighting, Harris implores.

The ex-Packers back surely speaks for millions in saying this generation of Packers fans is spoiled.

Then he offers a warning.

"The Packers went through their terrible time of losing before," Harris says. "History can repeat itself."
There's some concern it could, some concern the Packers are becoming too corporate. One former team personnel man describes Ed Policy, the team's chief operating officer, as a quiet "puppet master" angling for more football power. He adds Policy "has way more clout than people think” and that everyone in power got drunk off the team's success over the years.

The business of the franchise has expanded tremendously with the new "Titletown District" across the street from Lambeau booming. Some in-house worry the business side of things could infiltrate actual football decisions. Even Grant heard it's not as family-friendly as it used to be in Green Bay.

Right now, Murphy's in charge, and he cares deeply about the product on the field.

Rodgers' game might reach a new stratosphere with LaFleur. The optimists see a coach who'll insert this combination of gifts—muzzleloader right arm, Houdini-like escapability, a QB Grand Maester intellectually—into an X's-and-O's equation that'll now spit out an endless stream of MVPs and Super Bowls as it should have all along.

After dismissing anything Jennings and Finley say—"**** those guys"—one former coach says Rodgers has matured and dismisses the idea that he'd blow off anyone who can't match his IQ. He says Rodgers simply wants a coach "who isn't going to bullshit him" and expects Getsy, who was in Green Bay from 2014 to 2017 and spent last year at Mississippi State, to be precisely that.

And isn't last season what McCarthy and the Packers basically signed up for from the jump? To him, you can't have it both ways.
"You give a guy a green light to do whatever he wants and then criticize him for it. Which one do you want?" the coach says. "Do you want him to be creative, or do you want him to be exactly what you tell him?"

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This fine line will be central to anything LaFleur implements on offense. That's why Grant is more interested in what the offense looks like schematically than any wins and losses in 2019. This is a cerebral game now more than ever, and he knows Rodgers is frustrated that time is running out. Grant expects change to rejuvenate the quarterback.

And yet some do expect the 35-year-old player to railroad the 39-year-old first-time head coach.

"He already had a sense of entitlement, then you give him $200 million," Finley repeats. "Then you give him a young head coach. I think in Aaron Rodgers' heart, that's what he always wanted. He wanted to take control."

The challenge for LaFleur will be to strike a balance between showing confidence in himself and being a Tom Coughlin-like drill sergeant who Rodgers would tune out. Something like a "really, really hard cheerleader," one ex-personnel man in Green Bay says, chuckling, as though he's skeptical such a coach exists.

If LaFleur does strike that tricky balance and revitalizes Rodgers, Jennings thinks his old QB can enter the GOAT/Brady stratosphere. He's just not sure how willing Rodgers is when the quarterback's first public comments about the hire, at the NFL Honors, started off with the words, "A lot of change, in life in general, it's tough at first." That's all he needed to hear. To Jennings, that quote practically guaranteed how this will go down.

"I know how Aaron operates," Jennings says. "For him to make that statement, it already lets me know he's going to make it hard on a young Matt LaFleur."

To him, Rodgers doesn't need to sacrifice too much. It's as simple as what Brady did in the AFC title game, handing the ball off to backs 47 times to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. LaFleur has already hinted at wanting to run the ball more.


Newfound humility would help the quarterback with five fewer rings.

Some self-reflection.

"Now it's, OK, are you willing to swallow all the sense of entitlement? All your pride?" Jennings says. "You don't even have to swallow all of it. But are you willing to suppress most of it and say, 'You know what, whatever it takes, I'm willing to do'?"

With McCarthy gone, all eyes, all pressure, all scrutiny, will be directed toward Rodgers. It's on him to make that sacrifice, to work with others. After all, he brought the magic to Lambeau before.

He can do it again.

Even Jennings acknowledges that reality.

"Just as much as he is a part of the problem," Jennings says, "he's a big part of the solution."

A lot of the behind the scenes business stuff regarding Policy reeks of when Mike McCaskey started meddling in operations just a couple years prior to the 85 season I believe (think he took over in 1983?).

The Pack are due for their own series of shit and fuckups. LONG overdue, and hopefully the football piper is coming soon to collect.

 

[mecha]

this is actually amazing.

rest of you can rave about how omgtalented Rodgers is compared to Favre, but at least that asshole was likable. McCarthy did get 2 years with him, they nearly made it to the Super Bowl when he was 800 years old too.

 

[Raskolnikov]

this is actually amazing.

rest of you can rave about how omgtalented Rodgers is compared to Favre, but at least that asshole was likable. McCarthy did get 2 years with him, they nearly made it to the Super Bowl when he was 800 years old too.

Haha, good post.

Yeah the situation is hilarious. It’s shows huge disfunction that the franchise doesn’t listen to Rodgers input on anything.

Not even his WRs. How can they be so stupid?

It’s almost like that was how they learned to deal with the brain addled Favre, and this ignoring Rodgers is then the unforeseen curse of having 30 years with two HoFs..they treated Aaron like they learned to treat Favre instead of like a new situation. They got very stagnant and fucked up their window bad.

 

[botfly10]

A lot of the behind the scenes business stuff regarding Policy reeks of when Mike McCaskey started meddling in operations just a couple years prior to the 85 season I believe (think he took over in 1983?).

The Pack are due for their own series of shit and fuckups. LONG overdue, and hopefully the football piper is coming soon to collect.

That sig is literally the most narcissistic thing I've ever seen on here.

 

[mecha]

Haha, good post.

Yeah the situation is hilarious. It’s shows huge disfunction that the franchise doesn’t listen to Rodgers input on anything.

Not even his WRs. How can they be so stupid?

It’s almost like that was how they learned to deal with the brain addled Favre, and this ignoring Rodgers is then the unforeseen curse of having 30 years with two HoFs..they treated Aaron like they learned to treat Favre instead of like a new situation. They got very stagnant and fucked up their window bad.

I thought their ship was tighter than that. McCarthy called all that offense himself, he put Rodgers in the positions to do what he did to win a lot of football games. I was also under the impression that he wasn't the same player when he was drafted, sitting him was very beneficial to him in the long run... I don't know what Alex Smith or Rodgers were like in college cause I didn't follow college nationally, so I can't really weigh in on who was better coming into the NFL. obviously Rodgers wound up with the stronger resume in the NFL.

in fact, I thought all the Packers problems as an organization were cause of the GM. they were a strong draft team about 10 years ago, somewhere along the way after that the dude went full Jerry Angelo. Rodgers had something that the Bears didn't have, a player that was good enough to mask the other deficiencies.

whatever though. I hope the team burns from here on out. their smug cuntbag fanbase deserves to get shit on for a long time now.

 

[Midway Fields]

Yo, that shit is long as ****, but a great read

Yo the link would have sufficed. FFS.

 

[botfly10]

Rodgers disputes reported feud with McCarthy

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Aaron Rodgers disputed the notion that he and former Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy couldn't coexist and denied that team president Mark Murphy told him to not be the problem when the two discussed new coach Matt LaFleur, Rob Demovsky of ESPN reports.


Both assertions were made in a story published last week by Bleacher Report that detailed claims of organization-wide dysfunction.


Rodgers spoke to ESPN Milwaukee radio on Monday, the first day of the Packers' offseason workouts, and called the story a "smear attack."


"The thing is about the article, it's -- it's not a mystery. This was a smear attack by a writer looking to advance his career talking with mostly irrelevant, bitter players who all have an agenda, whether they're advancing their own careers or just trying to stir old stuff up," Rodgers said. "What happens is the same tired media folks picking it up and talking about it. This just emphasized their opinion about me already. So it's ... the crazy thing is there's super-slanted opinions in that piece stated as facts, and then there's quote-unquote facts which are just outright lies."


Rodgers said he felt the need to clear up a few things, including the idea that the Packers are "worried about me as the leader of the football team moving forward."


"I want to say two things: One, if they knew that, why would they offer me a contract last year?" Rodgers said during the interview with former Packers tackle Mark Tauscher and radio host Jason Wilde. "And two, which goes into my second central thesis point that I'm going to take down, is if I really disliked Mike so much, why would I re-sign knowing that if I play well and we do what we do around here -- we made the playoffs eight straight years, and then I got hurt and we missed the playoffs -- it's going to be me and Mike my entire career? So if I really disliked him that much, do you think I'd re-sign? Is the money that important to me? I'll tell you it's not. Quality of life is important."


Rodgers' relationship with McCarthy has been a topic of conversation for years, and it reopened in earnest last season after Rodgers ripped the game plan following a 22-0 win over the Buffalo Bills in Week 4 -- something Rodgers said he now regrets.


"Oh, man, I wish I hadn't said anything after the Bills game last year," Rodgers said on the radio show. "I wish I had just gotten with him in person. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful to him, but I know how it came off. That's what I told him when I met with him face to face."


Although Rodgers didn't deny the two had disagreements and that he was frustrated with McCarthy at times, he said he that didn't get in the way.


"The beauty in our relationship was that it grew year after year, and we learned how to communicate with each other," Rodgers said. "The beauty in our on-the-field relationship was that there was a ton of trust. When I read stuff like, 'I'd disrespect him by changing all these plays,' I had a lot of latitude. He knew that, and I knew that. I called the two-minute, I'd call stretches of no-huddle offense. ... A lot of times, he'd send two plays in: 'Hey, do you like this or that?' That's what it grew.


"The trust level was really high. I know it might make it tough on a playcaller when I'm going in a no-huddle period or I'm going in a two-minute of knowing exactly what's called, but that's the trust that we had, and that's why I appreciate getting to play for him for so many years."


When asked if he liked McCarthy more as a person than as a coach, Rodgers said: "I love Mike McCarthy. He's a great man. He's got a huge heart. He really cares about his players, and he showed that to us. ... As far as a player to a coach, it's just two Alpha males who are hyper-competitive and love winning and are both a little stubborn. But, again, we talked through so many different issues over the years, and that made us a lot stronger."


Rodgers echoed what McCarthy said of their relationship when it came up during an interview last week with ESPN.


"When I think about my relationship with Aaron, you're talking about 13 years," McCarthy said. "That's a very long time. It's been a privilege to watch him grow in so many different ways and see him do so many great things on the field and off. To think you can be in a relationship that long and not have any frustrations, that's unrealistic.


"As far as coaching him, I'd use a lot of words. He's challenging, very rewarding and fun. We had a lot of fun. Some of my greatest one-on-one conversations, accomplishments, adjustments and adversity we fought through have been with Aaron."

Rodgers said in the radio interview that "I think we need to honor Mike and respect him the right way."


"We had a hell of a run," Rodgers said. "We had 13 years, four NFC championships, one Super Bowl, eight straight playoffs, 19 straight wins. So, instead of trashing this guy on the way out, let's remember the amazing times that we had together. Packer fans, remember this, especially those of you who live in Green Bay: Mike lives here. Mike has young kids here. So Mike has to be here. Think about how difficult it is for him. My favor that I would ask of you, strongly, is if you see Mike, shake his hand. Tell him thanks for the memories. Tell him thanks for the coaching job that he did. Tell him how much you appreciate him being a part of what we built here.

"Things change from '06 to '18. We came off of a bad season in '05, and we built something special and had sustained success, so instead of trashing this guy on the way out -- last year was tough, no doubt about it -- but let's honor him and his legacy as the second-winningest coach in Packers history. If you see him, please, just show him the respect that he deserves. Not only does he have to live in Green Bay, he wants to. He loves it here. He's going to be here. So, if you see him, do him that favor and show him the respect that he deserves."