Amy Winehouse found dead

[Bringmepie]

Dead Pool, Death List, Next to Go list.

Sadly, she didn't need to be on anybody's dead pool list. In that regard Winehouse was like the free square in the middle of a Bingo card.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

Sadly, she didn't need to be on anybody's dead pool list. Winehouse was like the free square in the middle of a Bingo card.

Sadly you get a BINGO !

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Sadly, she didn't need to be on anybody's dead pool list. In that regard Winehouse was like the free square in the middle of a Bingo card.

LOL! That was awesome!!

 

[LarmersOneTimer]

Her corpse isnt rotten yet.

Have you seen her lately? I beg to differ with you it's been rotten for a couple of years now.

 

[LarmersOneTimer]

Guess I can quit waiting for those topless pictures

I blame you for this situation sir. One simple manuver by you and she might still be alive.

 

[the canadian dream]

Unless one has ever had a major addiction to a substance and/or has suffered from a serious depression problem themselves I don't think it is right to jump into judging others who have passed away due to such issues. I also don't think it's right to cast those people aside as being bad people or not worth some sympathy (suicide is not a topic I take lightly having lost a number of friends and family members to it)). People have problems and don't now how to deal with them properly nor do they get the right help. Some just give up on life and become exhausted by it...that too me is always sad. Obviously this woman had problems as we all knew. The human brain is a tricky. None of us know anything about this woman other than what the tabloid media has fed us. So really who are we to judge. We only do so through the delusions of grandeur we all suffer from.



While never a fan of her music it's still a death to someone who I think really didn't do anything horrible in her life other than just not being able to cope with it very well. Too me that`s sad if ones a celebrity or not. I hadn`t heard anything about her in a very long time. One would think that possibly she had fallen out of the media spotlight for her own good and was perhaps making a turn around in her life. Apparently this wasn`t the case.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Unless one has ever had a major addiction to a substance and/or has suffered from a serious depression problem themselves I don't think it is right to jump into judging others who have passed away due to such issues. I also don't think it's right to cast those people aside as being bad people or not worth some sympathy (suicide is not a topic I take lightly having lost a number of friends and family members to it)). People have problems and don't now how to deal with them properly nor do they get the right help. Some just give up on life and become exhausted by it...that too me is always sad. Obviously this woman had problems as we all knew. The human brain is a tricky. None of us know anything about this woman other than what the tabloid media has fed us. So really who are we to judge. We only do so through the delusions of grandeur we all suffer from.



While never a fan of her music it's still a death to someone who I think really didn't do anything horrible in her life other than just not being able to cope with it very well. Too me that`s sad if ones a celebrity or not. I hadn`t heard anything about her in a very long time. One would think that possibly she had fallen out of the media spotlight for her own good and was perhaps making a turn around in her life. Apparently this wasn`t the case.

Anyone addicted to drugs that refuses to seek help and then dies of a fuckin OD is 100% a suicide.



I have zero sympathy for anyone who dies like that... their family is who I feel for.



Suicide is the most cowardly and selfish act any human being can impose on his/her family and friends.



TCD I don't know your personal interactions/experiences with possible addicts whether it be family or friends and I really don't mean to disrespect you with my post... I just feel very strongly about people who use their "disorder" or "addiction" as a crutch.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Anyone addicted to drugs that refuses to seek help and then dies of a fuckin OD is 100% a suicide.



Suicide the most cowardly and selfish act any human being can impose on his/her family and friends.

Have you ever been close to some one that's committed suicide?



I have. Not all suicides are the result of self absorbed humans wanting an easy escape from this world.

Derek Boogaard wasn't a coward. He was a dude with a problem, yet you have a mini shrine in your posting level to him.

Might as well put R.I.P. coward-- more or less he went through rehab just to go back on the drugs at the finish line. Don't see much difference there.



I'm not defending Amy or Derek for their actions-- or lack of them. It's very difficult to get into a brain that's deteriorating from substance abuse. We can easily state an easy "they had so much to live for" or " they have such the life."



I haven't struggled with addiction even close to their levels (just the nice legal ones such as caffeine) , but when you know some one close that has-- the last thing I think of is cowardice or selfishness.

 

[TSD]

Unless one has ever had a major addiction to a substance and/or has suffered from a serious depression problem themselves I don't think it is right to jump into judging others who have passed away due to such issues. I also don't think it's right to cast those people aside as being bad people or not worth some sympathy (suicide is not a topic I take lightly having lost a number of friends and family members to it)). People have problems and don't now how to deal with them properly nor do they get the right help. Some just give up on life and become exhausted by it...that too me is always sad. Obviously this woman had problems as we all knew. The human brain is a tricky. None of us know anything about this woman other than what the tabloid media has fed us. So really who are we to judge. We only do so through the delusions of grandeur we all suffer from.



While never a fan of her music it's still a death to someone who I think really didn't do anything horrible in her life other than just not being able to cope with it very well. Too me that`s sad if ones a celebrity or not. I hadn`t heard anything about her in a very long time. One would think that possibly she had fallen out of the media spotlight for her own good and was perhaps making a turn around in her life. Apparently this wasn`t the case.

I deal with it on a day to day basis, my brother is an alcoholic, and its turned him into the worst kind of scum, I pray to every God that people pray to that he gives me the gift of offing himself.

 

[Variable]

Anyone addicted to drugs that refuses to seek help and then dies of a fuckin OD is 100% a suicide.



I have zero sympathy for anyone who dies like that... their family is who I feel for.



Suicide is the most cowardly and selfish act any human being can impose on his/her family and friends.



TCD I don't know your personal interactions/experiences with possible addicts whether it be family or friends and I really don't mean to disrespect you with my post... I just feel very strongly about people who use their "disorder" or "addiction" as a crutch.

Ehhhh what? First off all, that kind of logic makes every person who's ever died from lung cancer (or any kind of cancer) from smoking tobacco and refusing to quit a suicide.



Second of all, suicide being the "most cowardly and selfish act" is ridiculous. You don't know every human being who's committed suicide and their families or their situations. That's a HUGE judgement call on things you have no clue about.

 

[TSD]

Ehhhh what? First off all, that kind of logic makes every person who's ever died from lung cancer (or any kind of cancer) from smoking tobacco and refusing to quit a suicide.



Second of all, suicide being the "most cowardly and selfish act" is ridiculous. You don't know every human being who's committed suicide and their families or their situations. That's a HUGE judgement call on things you have no clue about.

I agree to some respect as thats a loose definition of suicide. Anything you do that is detrimental to your health in that respect can be considered suicide. Alcohol is bad for you, most people use it responsibly but it doesnt mean someone that only drinks socially on the weekends wont develop some sort of liver disease and die, is that suicide?



Suicide to me is defined as the explicit desire to end ones life. Using drugs and knowing the result may be death is not the same as killing yourself. In the prior case they are rolling the dice, sure its still fucking stupid, but they arent trying to end their life.

 

[Variable]

I'm just going on how he's wording it. Overdosing (like a chain smoker), not getting help, dying from cancer caused from that, following his logic, would make you a suicide. In fact, that example would probably actually better qualify a person as a suicide in Stu's World as opposed to a person who OD'ed, as with smoking that usually takes years and years of knowingly engaging in that activity and feeling the ramifications of it over time and still continuing to do it, knowing what's happening. But all it takes is once from an overdose of pills, narcotics, etc, just one time. Never really be for sure (unless there's a note) if you were trying to kill yourself or you just miscalculated how much you were supposed to take.



See how ridiculous this gets?

 

[mikita's helmet]

That's a HUGE judgement call on things you have no clue about.

Hey, hey....



Stu never makes judgement calls. Just not his thing.

BTW, Nice post, TCD.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

Simply put, **** her. She was selfish, totally discounting her family by continuing to use and destroying herself, after "attempts at rehab."

 

[LarmersOneTimer]

Unless one has ever had a major addiction to a substance and/or has suffered from a serious depression problem themselves I don't think it is right to jump into judging others who have passed away due to such issues. I also don't think it's right to cast those people aside as being bad people or not worth some sympathy (suicide is not a topic I take lightly having lost a number of friends and family members to it)). People have problems and don't now how to deal with them properly nor do they get the right help. Some just give up on life and become exhausted by it...that too me is always sad. Obviously this woman had problems as we all knew. The human brain is a tricky. None of us know anything about this woman other than what the tabloid media has fed us. So really who are we to judge. We only do so through the delusions of grandeur we all suffer from.



While never a fan of her music it's still a death to someone who I think really didn't do anything horrible in her life other than just not being able to cope with it very well. Too me that`s sad if ones a celebrity or not. I hadn`t heard anything about her in a very long time. One would think that possibly she had fallen out of the media spotlight for her own good and was perhaps making a turn around in her life. Apparently this wasn`t the case.

I think you're right in most cases TCD. Someone like this though I am sure was offered help and guidance by those around here. If she refused it then it was her call. If her "entorage" let her do what she wanted w/o stepping in because they were on the gravey train they should be held partially responsible.



She had help available to her at some point and refused it. Suicide or whatever you want to call it it was pretty much her choice in the end.



You are 100% coerrect in my eyes in that no one should be cast aside but at some point you have to say it's their life and it needs to run it's course.

 

[cids_revenge]

I blame you for this situation sir. One simple manuver by you and she might still be alive.

I already packed my hot plate, now I just need to find her

 

[LarmersOneTimer]

I already packed my hot plate, now I just need to find her

Back from the great beyond?! Now THAT would be impressive.

 

[bookjones]

Have you ever been close to some one that's committed suicide?



I have. Not all suicides are the result of self absorbed humans wanting an easy escape from this world.

Derek Boogaard wasn't a coward. He was a dude with a problem, yet you have a mini shrine in your posting level to him.

Might as well put R.I.P. coward-- more or less he went through rehab just to go back on the drugs at the finish line. Don't see much difference there.

That's because there is ZERO difference and your analogy is spot-on.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

At least Derek Boogaard had talent at SOMETHING. But yes, what he did was an act of cowardice. He took all of his pain away and put it on the shoulders of his family, friends, teammates and colleagues.

 

[winos5]

At least Derek Boogaard had talent at SOMETHING. But yes, what he did was an act of cowardice. He took all of his pain away and put it on the shoulders of his family, friends, teammates and colleagues.

Are you saying Amy Winehouse lacked any talent? I wasn't a fan but she was certainly a talented musician and singer.