Austin Jackson aquired

[DanTown]

Have to like the deal as it's unlikely they're getting a guy off the 40 man roster and if he's not on the 40, I really doubt the Cubs are trading that much, espeically since they're paying Jackson close to a million dollars for 30 games of service. Also, the Cubs are probably nervous about having Fowler hit FA and having to potentially pay him 5/100 or something so this way, they get a look at Jackson and decide if they want to go with a lower cost option in CF next year as to not block guys like Happ or Almora in a few years.

Regarding how I imagine he'll be used, Joe loves to platoon if he can and I assume Jackson bats high in the order against lefties (he's hitting .294/.337.441 against lefties this year even though he's hit RHP better than LHP in his career) and then late in game, he can bring in a bat like Coghlan or even Schwarber to get a better match-up against bull-pens (albeit teams will have more arms to burn as well). And if Soler isn't ready/effective by the end of September, Jackson is a fairly capable guy in that regard.

 

[CSF77]

Why would they bump Villanueva off the 40 man? They literally just DFA'd Olt who after Bryant is the only 3B on the 40 man unless you consider Alcantara/Baez/Russell/Castro 3Bs. Seems far more likely they'd bump pitching as they have 18 position players on the 40 vs 22 pitchers. Beeler and Jokisch make sense but so does Medina. Rosscup as well hasn't exactly been stellar.

Rosscup has been better vs LH vs RH hitters. He is a LH specialist but has been used against both. RH hitters work him.


I personally think it will be Jokisch and Beeler. But Vill also has not been used this year and with Baez and Bryant sitting at 3B it is really doubtful if he will ever get a opportunity.

It could just end up being based off of value this off season in trade worth.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I read the thread title as "Action Jackson required ".

 

[CSF77]

Have to like the deal as it's unlikely they're getting a guy off the 40 man roster and if he's not on the 40, I really doubt the Cubs are trading that much, espeically since they're paying Jackson close to a million dollars for 30 games of service. Also, the Cubs are probably nervous about having Fowler hit FA and having to potentially pay him 5/100 or something so this way, they get a look at Jackson and decide if they want to go with a lower cost option in CF next year as to not block guys like Happ or Almora in a few years.

Regarding how I imagine he'll be used, Joe loves to platoon if he can and I assume Jackson bats high in the order against lefties (he's hitting .294/.337.441 against lefties this year even though he's hit RHP better than LHP in his career) and then late in game, he can bring in a bat like Coghlan or even Schwarber to get a better match-up against bull-pens (albeit teams will have more arms to burn as well). And if Soler isn't ready/effective by the end of September, Jackson is a fairly capable guy in that regard.

His RH/LH splits are a wash. He is really not needing a platoon if you view him as a starter. To be honest his value is higher than Soler's is right now. Better D. Him slumping in Seatle is comperable to what Soler did this year. Soler is pretty much a fastball hitter only. An argument can be made that he would be an improvement to RF even after Soler gets back.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Why would they bump Villanueva off the 40 man? They literally just DFA'd Olt who after Bryant is the only 3B on the 40 man unless you consider Alcantara/Baez/Russell/Castro 3Bs. Seems far more likely they'd bump pitching as they have 18 position players on the 40 vs 22 pitchers. Beeler and Jokisch make sense but so does Medina. Rosscup as well hasn't exactly been stellar.

I think with Maddon as manager, the Cubs view themselves as having players with versatility. You have any number of players who can play 2B/3B/OF. I would like to see Vill go in a trade as opposed to being blocked. Young players deserve that opportunity at some point.

 

[CSF77]

I think with Maddon as manager, the Cubs view themselves as having players with versatility. You have any number of players who can play 2B/3B/OF. I would like to see Vill go in a trade as opposed to being blocked. Young players deserve that opportunity at some point.

I agree with this.

I think they will want to settle where they want Baez after things are said and done. He could end up at either 2B or 3B. Bryant has been used more and more in RF with Soler down and I could see them trading Soler and making Baez the everyday 3B.

But as far as this year adding Jackson and using him in RF would provide more stability to a young line up.

 

[beckdawg]

I think with Maddon as manager, the Cubs view themselves as having players with versatility. You have any number of players who can play 2B/3B/OF. I would like to see Vill go in a trade as opposed to being blocked. Young players deserve that opportunity at some point.

I mean I agree Villanueva could realistically get dealt this offseason but there's a pretty big difference between that and DFAing him. I'm pretty certain some team who's out of it would take the chance on a basically MLB ready 3B with good defense. Hell, if anything you would have made him the player in the Jackson trade before just straight up DFAing him.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I mean I agree Villanueva could realistically get dealt this offseason but there's a pretty big difference between that and DFAing him. I'm pretty certain some team who's out of it would take the chance on a basically MLB ready 3B with good defense. Hell, if anything you would have made him the player in the Jackson trade before just straight up DFAing him.

Help me to understand the mention of DFA? Are you upset they DFA'd Olt? Do you think they plan to do the same with Vill?

 

[DanTown]

His RH/LH splits are a wash. He is really not needing a platoon if you view him as a starter. To be honest his value is higher than Soler's is right now. Better D. Him slumping in Seatle is comperable to what Soler did this year. Soler is pretty much a fastball hitter only. An argument can be made that he would be an improvement to RF even after Soler gets back.

I don't think the platoon is what Jackson does but rather the rest of the roster was so terrible against lefties. While Jackson will hit right handed pitching probably as well as left, the hope is that his left handed hitting is better than the guys currently getting starts

Here were the current options in RF when a lefty was on the mound (and a lot of these guys mean you can't give a guy like Schwarber a day off if he caught).

Coghlan - .105/.209/.132
Szczur - .235/.283/.441
Denorfia - .217/.289/.390
Herrera (moves Bryant to RF) - .286/.286/.457
Castro (moves Bryant to RF) - .255/.284/.316


Besides Herrera's fluky XBH in just 36 at bats, the Cubs don't have bats that produce when they play against lefties. They have more than enough bats to play against right handed pitching and Jackson will get some time against righties but I feel that's mostly a product of him being a late inning pinch runner who can stay in the game and defend.

 

[willycat]

I agree with this.

I think they will want to settle where they want Baez after things are said and done. He could end up at either 2B or 3B. Bryant has been used more and more in RF with Soler down and I could see them trading Soler and making Baez the everyday 3B.

But as far as this year adding Jackson and using him in RF would provide more stability to a young line up.

Think Baez will get lots of at bats, while playing mostly at 2b. Keep Bryant at 3b for now but I think he will eventually end up as an outfielder. Use Jackson and Coughlin in RF, until Soler returns and most importantly make Castro the designated sitter.

 

[beckdawg]

Help me to understand the mention of DFA? Are you upset they DFA'd Olt? Do you think they plan to do the same with Vill?

CSF77 said something along the lines of they had to clear 2 40 man roster spots for Cahill and someone else(Berry?). That's what I was talking about in my first post. I don't see why you'd bump Villanueva off the 40 man and expose him to potential loss to other teams when there's a bunch of iffy bullpen guys.

 

[Parade_Rain]

CSF77 said something along the lines of they had to clear 2 40 man roster spots for Cahill and someone else(Berry?). That's what I was talking about in my first post. I don't see why you'd bump Villanueva off the 40 man and expose him to potential loss to other teams when there's a bunch of iffy bullpen guys.

Thanks. I see that now.

 

[chibears55]

I mean I agree Villanueva could realistically get dealt this offseason but there's a pretty big difference between that and DFAing him. I'm pretty certain some team who's out of it would take the chance on a basically MLB ready 3B with good defense. Hell, if anything you would have made him the player in the Jackson trade before just straight up DFAing him.

I dont think the DFA anyone but olt off the 40 man..

Villanueva and the others could very easily get put back on 40 man once season ends if they plan on keeping him..

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[chibears55]

CSF77 said something along the lines of they had to clear 2 40 man roster spots for Cahill and someone else(Berry?). That's what I was talking about in my first post. I don't see why you'd bump Villanueva off the 40 man and expose him to potential loss to other teams when there's a bunch of iffy bullpen guys.

He still cubs property, I dont think they DfA him like olt . . The only time they need to worry about protecting players is during rule 5 draft. ..

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[beckdawg]

I dont think the DFA anyone but olt off the 40 man..

Villanueva and the others could very easily get put back on 40 man once season ends if they plan on keeping him..

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They have to. They called up Berry and Cahill who aren't on the 40 man roster and they had no open slots.

 

[chibears55]

They have to. They called up Berry and Cahill who aren't on the 40 man roster and they had no open slots.

I understand but are they DFA or just taken off 40 man

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[CSF77]

To move them off the 40 man. Yes they are subject to waver assignment.

That said they have to bump 2.

 

[CSF77]

If they are smart they move Baez around to give days off. Ajax full time in RF and Cog at 2B. Let Baez catch 2B vs Lefties.

If Baez just starts to dominate then they may want to cut playing time from any who are slumping

 

[CSF77]

But the 2 that make the most sense to bump are Jokisch and Beeler. Not saying they will considering Iowa needs starters until the 7th. Not saying that means much

 

[DanTown]

If they are smart they move Baez around to give days off. Ajax full time in RF and Cog at 2B. Let Baez catch 2B vs Lefties.

If Baez just starts to dominate then they may want to cut playing time from any who are slumping

I think they balance RHP/LHP and they're good (note not giving positions or batting order, just the eight to use)

RHP - Fowler, Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, LaStella, Coghlan, Schwarber, Ross/Montero
LHP - Fowler, Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, Baez, Jackson, Schwarber/Ross, Castro/Schwarber