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Goff and Wentz have about the same experience as Barkley. Who would you take of the 3
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Nothing like it, Barkley has played well in real games against playoff teams. Shaw was playing 3rd and 4th stringers in preseason. Foolish to not take Barkley serious and give him a real shot, he is proving that he deserves a chance to compete. He would not be the first QB in the league to come out of nowhere and be a good starter.
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If i could trade right now? Wentz.
But that's fantasy world.
Realistic world says Cut Cutler, sign Hoyer, sign Barkley, sign Shaw and draft a QB early. May the best man win in a REAL talent evaluation. May the next two be on the roster as back-ups.
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How about 13 tds and 13 ints like wentz?
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Well, no shit. Becauuse we have no choice but play a backup. Of COURSE he's going to play the rest of the season.
It's NEXT season that is the question.
Many here are ready to name him starter, and he is not a long term answer at starter. He IS a good backup.
His release is not quick, his throws tend to float. He does not have the zip necessary to get the ball to WRs before defenders can react. He's done well compared to expectations. But he's not the long term solution.
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you must be excited to see captain kirk in action this sunday
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somehow, youve become the voice of reason around here.
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The only thing Barkley has proven is just how disappointing and inconsistent Cutler's performances have been........
We have no idea if Barkley can be a long term starter yet.....the coaching staff doesn't know...2 other teams let him go.....how the fuck would forum fans know?
If you are guaranteeing anything one way or another you are talking out of your ass like many other fans.
We have no idea if Barkley can be a long term starter yet.....the coaching staff doesn't know...2 other teams let him go.....how the fuck would forum fans know?
If you are guaranteeing anything one way or another you are talking out of your ass like many other fans.
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Exactly. We don't know either way. There are complains that people are jumping on Barkley too soon, but from my vantage point, there is only one person crowning him as the answer, whereas dozens of posters are definitively claiming that he's "just a backup". Both are equally premature. He's had 4 career starts. He might be legit starter material, he might not. He's certainly done enough to be in the conversation though.
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The next 2 games will be a great way for Barkley to prove himself. Washington is as mediocre as their record would indicate. They offer little in the way of defense and while they can score with the great Kirk Cousins at the helm, the Bears defense should be good enough to limit them. If Barkley plays well, should win that game. Then there is the Minnesota Vikings. At this point anyone should be able to beat the Vikings with their completely impotent offense that all the viagra in the world couldn't cure. Their defense will present a challenge for Barkley however. If he just plays a clean game while still being effective, the Bears should win that game.
So win the last 2, Barkley and we'll let you return and compete next year. Of course it won't be much of a competition when Jimmy Garoppolo rolls into town but nobody in the league can beat out Jimmy. We know that. Mr. Barkley will still be a fine backup.
So win the last 2, Barkley and we'll let you return and compete next year. Of course it won't be much of a competition when Jimmy Garoppolo rolls into town but nobody in the league can beat out Jimmy. We know that. Mr. Barkley will still be a fine backup.
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I think they need too finally pull the trigger on a qb in the first round and resign barkley for insurance there is potential there
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That is spot on. The guy is really lucky when you think about it. On two different teams and never got a shot to prove himself. Then he lands on the Bears and three qbs go down. Talk about falling into a pile of shit and come out smelling like a rose. Now he has got two more games to show what he's got and land himself a good contract. Potentially a Cinderella man in the making
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Agreed. And I think he's been good enough that he buys you a stay of execution from having to take a QB in this really awful draft for QBs.
Sign him long term, give him an offseason and the season to see what he can be, and let him start all 16 next year. If he develops, you found your answer, and have him locked up for cheap for 2-4 more years depending on the length of contract you signed him to. If he is exactly as we saw, well, you just draft a QB in 2018, which will have far superior options to even the #1 overall QB drafted in this class, and make Barkley your backup, and because he played so many games, he'll be a very competent solution.
And the Bears don't need to say anything about Barkley being the answer or anything. Just sign him to an extended deal, and say "we feel that based on his performance in the games he played, he warrants an extended look at the starting QB position, which we will be handling into the 2017 season." And leave it at that, until what I said above comes to pass, and an informed decision can be made.
Doing it this way saves you from drafting the next Rex Grossman or Cade McNown, which is what the 2017 draft has to offer in terms of QBs.
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That is spot on. The guy is really lucky when you think about it. On two different teams and never got a shot to prove himself. Then he lands on the Bears and three qbs go down. Talk about falling into a pile of shit and come out smelling like a rose. Now he has got two more games to show what he's got and land himself a good contract. Potentially a Cinderella man in the making
I know I am cheering for him just on those terms - plus how many times have we seen shit go down and some team luck into a franchise guy, and we say "why can't the Bears get lucky like that?" Well - maybe if Barkley keeps improving and the Bears are willing to give him a shot in 2017, maybe we finally will be that lucky?
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Okay, I watch football. I watch players. I played football for a lot of years. I played QB. Barkley has shown me everything I was hoping for in the last 4 games; all of the things you would like to see out of a starting QB. First, the stage isn't too big for him. He is full of confidence and it shows in his play and demeanor. Second, he has a very good football brain. He processes quickly and nearly always makes the right throw. Third, he has VERY good pocket awareness. He has below-average athleticism and yet his sack-per-attempt rate is very low. He is very slippery in the pocket and has above average strength as he has powered out of at least 3 sacks. Fourth, he has very good passing rhythm and ball location, especially on intermediate to long routes. There is a lot being made of his INTs, and they aren't good for sure, but go back and watch all of them since his first two against TEN. One was on a hail-mary, so that is a mulligan. Go back and watch the two he threw in the third quarter against GB. Brown was clearly held on the first which is why it looked like he threw high, and Braverman was held on the second and he quit on the route after. Those two throws both had good placement which would have put them inside of Clinton-Dix if not for uncalled penalties on GB. Now if you add in the unfathomable number of drops by the WRs, the numbers start to look very, very good. The last thing he has and may well be the most important is he doesn't quit. He has been down by a LOT in two of his games and brought the team back to very possibly win them both if not for other players making costly mistakes. Some of you espouse about "only a backup" and "doesn't have the physical tools", but to me he definitely passes the eye test, and I hope he is given the opportunity to compete for QB1 next year, as I think we may have only started to scratch the surface with what he can do.
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Good analysis. I think you're right on about him processing the game quickly (unlike Cutler) which leads to good decisions and low sacks despite him not being a great athlete. Also that when bad things happen, he bounces right back and doesn't let the offense deflate around him. It's a breath of fresh air seeing a downfield QB with these qualities.
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I have played a lot of Tecmo Bowl back in the day and I have never seen as many WR drops as I have with the Bears.......
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