Bears new restrictions on the media covering practices

[brundleflyguy]

Seriously? Unless you make millions you're a slave? I need to find a new job.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

Your idea of free market capitalism relies on slave ownership to turn a profit.

You're conflating two different concepts.

1) Slave labor- Which is only achieved when people are COERCED OR FORCED to perform labor...

and

2) Anti-trust exemptions within the context of a professional sports league which together act as a de facto cartel to manage labor costs and perhaps limit immediate incomes to sub-optimal levels in order to maintain some semblance of competitive balance/league sustainability

1 isn't 2, and 2 isn't 1.

Also, never go full Special person; the relationship between the NFL and the consumers isn't a publicly administered monopoly/ultility. Other professional football leagues can and have been able to meet the barriers of entry and compete with the NFL...

See the AFC, USFL, XFL, Arena Leagues....etc. etc.

 

[MakeMyDay]

I'm sure the other 200 players from this year's draft who don't wind up making millions for being a first round draft pick think the NFL is great.

So they were forced into servitude as slaves somehow? Did everyone in the world miss something?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

This is one of the worst BF51 experiences, maybe ever.

 

[BearsFan51]

So they were forced into servitude as slaves somehow? Did everyone in the world miss something?

I'm glad you're so stupid that you're taking everything so literally or you're just being sense to seem like you're so condescendingly smarter than everyone else. The wealth distribution in the NFL goes to the elite players and the scraps. I'm glad you have this idea that the NFL redistributes it's revenue so evenly between all the players. Maybe we can next discuss the proper retirement benefits the veterans of the NFL have received after playing themselves into disability. Let's ask Jim McMahon how great the NFL has been for him, that is if he can remember.

 

[Hbkrusso]

whats the league minimum nowadays? and how much more or less is that than yer average joe makes?

 

[BearsFan51]

whats the league minimum nowadays? and how much more or less is that than yer average joe makes?

Why are you insisting on comparing two completely different entities and insisting their labor structure is the same?

 

[SERE Bear]

whats the league minimum nowadays? and how much more or less is that than yer average joe makes?

Last time I checked the minimum for a rookie was $420,000, It only goes up from there

 

[MakeMyDay]

I'm glad you're so stupid that you're taking everything so literally or you're just being sense to seem like you're so condescendingly smarter than everyone else. The wealth distribution in the NFL goes to the elite players and the scraps. I'm glad you have this idea that the NFL redistributes it's revenue so evenly between all the players. Maybe we can next discuss the proper retirement benefits the veterans of the NFL have received after playing themselves into disability. Let's ask Jim McMahon how great the NFL has been for him, that is if he can remember.

LOL!!!

Do you think everyone is weak minded and stupid?

The NFL has ALWAYS been based on talent -

So now all players should be paid the same? Talk about stupidity...

If you want to share your money with people that don't earn it that is up to you - or move to China...or file a grievance against the players union - Nobody is stopping you.

But that is not how that system has ever ever worked...Nor does any free market system.

I doubt J.J. Watt would appreciate nor be motivated to be at his best if he made the same amount as a rookie that will never dress out on gameday...

Way to change part your point to retirement ... And Jim McMahon played at his own free will and participated in the system as designed - See Chris Borland as someone that thought it was not worth it-

 

[gwharris2254]

You guys are forgetting one thing. The rookies are getting paid at least 420,000 to play a friggin game.
Granted they play it better than anyone else in the world but its still a game.
How about the $80,000-$100,000 yearly compensated police officers and firemen and women that risk their lives everyday ... many of which go down during duty ?
Arent they even more so slaves to Capitalism ??
How about our Armed Forces ?
The slavery argument is just plain stupidity when it comes to the NFL ..... get real

 

[BearsFan51]

You guys are forgetting one thing. The rookies are getting paid at least 420,000 to play a friggin game.
Granted they play it better than anyone else in the world but its still a game.
How about the $80,000-$100,000 yearly compensated police officers and firemen and women that risk their lives everyday ... many of which go down during duty ?
Arent they even more so slaves to Capitalism ??
How about our Armed Forces ?
The slavery argument is just plain stupidity when it comes to the NFL ..... get real

It's not about slavery to the NFL, it's about this idea that the free market system somehow works. That even with the power of the union behind the players the players still get screwed.

People throw out free market economy and use that word as a patriotic American word that makes them or the U.S. Better than everyone else. Free market capitalism on every level is the biggest crock of shit ever invented and that includes the NFL.

And if you think the average police officer and fireman makes $80,000 to $100,000 a year you're completely and utterly misinformed.

 

[Bearly]

Changing topics because you put your foot in your mouth?

Your wrong on this as well. Players union is there to protect the players. Guess what happens every time they vote to redistribute a negligible % of their piece of the pie to help retired NFL players with a new CBA.

If those civil servants make less, relative to the lowest paid NFL signing, it weakens your point. Bringing it up to slam a post where the actual amount is trivial isn't that bright. You may also find that with insurance, retirement and other benefits rolled into their salaries, those #s are close to right. Those bene's count as not every Joe Shmoe gets them either.

We get it, your buddy won't be able to shoot semi exclusive film for his pay site any longer and you're trying to incite a riot to help him as it's his main draw. I like watching practice film as much as the next guy but I wont miss it and understand how the leaks can hurt them. Care more about winning than some mediocre, meaningless (to me) practice.

 

[theOHIOSTATE!]

I'm glad you're so stupid that you're taking everything so literally or you're just being sense to seem like you're so condescendingly smarter than everyone else. The wealth distribution in the NFL goes to the elite players and the scraps. I'm glad you have this idea that the NFL redistributes it's revenue so evenly between all the players. Maybe we can next discuss the proper retirement benefits the veterans of the NFL have received after playing themselves into disability. Let's ask Jim McMahon how great the NFL has been for him, that is if he can remember.

Is this a joke?

Can we discuss the proper retirement benefits of workers in X, Y, Z industries and how much executives pull out?

I mean, we're on the same page on a lot of things politically and probably as far as economic theory as well (lol supplysideism), but to single out the NFL as particularly abusive and/or somehow attempt to link that with access to a rookie minim camp is fairly ludicrous.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I think if there are any 'slaves' in this scenario, it's us as the consumers.

 

[FireFox]

I go to sleep for six hours and I wake up to this shit. Dammit guys.

 

[modo]

Comparing anything in the NFL to slavery cheapens what actual slavery is.....

please stop being stupid....

 

[DMelt36]

Usually I say things on here tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness, I imagine one of the major reasons to close practices to fans is to avoid crazy obnoxious fucks like you disrupting the learning process. I imagine having some pasty white, basement dwelling blogger criticizing them from the sidelines, or making suggestions to the coaching staff is anti-productive. The fact that you think you have a right to enter a privately owned companies facilities at your convenience is laughable.

I think this is the main reason fans aren't allowed at every team event (and rightfully so).

You know there'd be some lowlifes who would go to every practice and heckle a player at every opportunity. And that player would be completely justified in running into the crowd to beat the **** out of that person.

So in order to avoid all that, let's just keep practices private.

 

[SERE Bear]

This is why Shea will excel this year. Finally he can grow and develop without the fans and media critiquing his every move.

 

[DaaBears]

Practices should certainly be closed to the media and public. After practice you let the media in for a half hour or so. Fans are assholes about this. As a fan you should want your team to win, period. Their best chance at winning will occur with all closed practices. Nothing positive, only negative, can come out of media and or fans being allowed at a practice.

 

[SERE Bear]

Does this mean training camp is closed as well?