BEARS ROOKIE QB RECORDS (season)

[Chicago Staleys]

This isn’t true. Passer rating is a formula that uses stats that have been official for like a century.

NFL's Passer Rating | Pro Football Hall of Fame

www.profootballhof.com

1973 it became an official stat. I said early 70’s so that would be true.

 

[Chicago Staleys]

We don't normally toss the rookie out in his first season. It really has only become something to do in the last decade or so. Before that most quarterbacks, unless they were the number 1 overall pick, were given a year or even two to season themselves before being thrown into the fire.

But back then QBs weren't getting 15-20 percent of a team's total cap.

Back then the Rookie 1st round QB’s were getting more than that. There is a reason there is a rookie cap right now.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

NFL's Passer Rating | Pro Football Hall of Fame

www.profootballhof.com

1973 it became an official stat. I said early 70’s so that would be true.

I think they retroactively applied the stat to the seasons prior to 1973, though. That's how Milt Plum held the single-season passing rating record even though he did it in 1960.

 

[Chicago Staleys]

I think they retroactively applied the stat to the seasons prior to 1973, though. That's how Milt Plum held the single-season passing rating record even though he did it in 1960.

Maybe. The link has what measurable’s were used prior to 1973. Either way Sid only had 51 attempts so he doesn’t qualify

 

[wklink]

Back then the Rookie 1st round QB’s were getting more than that. There is a reason there is a rookie cap right now.

Very true but that generally was only for the high first rounders in the draft. Since 1980 the Bears have only drafted three QBs with the first five picks (McMahon, Trubisky, Williams). During that whole inflated first round salary period Chicago didn't have a high draft pick as a quarterback. I think Rex was probably our highest and he wasn't that high a choice.

 

[Bort]

NFL's Passer Rating | Pro Football Hall of Fame

www.profootballhof.com

1973 it became an official stat. I said early 70’s so that would be true.

You’re trying to be annoyingly pedantic, and you’re not even succeeding at that.

Passer rating has never been an official stat. It’s a formula invented in 1973 based on official stats that have been officially tabulated for like a century.

That’s why I can learn with a simple pro football reference search that, for example, Sammy Baugh, drafted in 1937, had a career passer rating of 72.2.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Flus cost CW 3 wins already

So are QB wins an official stat again or not? I can’t figure out if they are on this board

 

[DaaBears]

So are QB wins an official stat again or not? I can’t figure out if they are on this board

It changes based on agenda. Get with it

 

[DaaBears]

Trubisky's quarterback rating in 2017 was 77.5. Considering the number of games that Trubs played in 2017 and the games played now by Williams Caleb has been moderately better. Depending on how well he plays against Detroit on Thursday Williams will have about 300 yards more and 3 or 4 more TDs. Rating should remain better barring a total offensive collapse.

I'm not sure that is a reaffirmation of how good a choice Caleb Williams is or an indictment of how poorly this organization has drafted over the decades. Granted not many Bears quarterbacks have started in their rookie year. The only other QB that had close to as many snaps as Williams and Trubisky is Justin Fields and his first year was abysmal.

If you look at his overall numbers they tend to match up historically with other QBs that have started their first year. If you look at the 'big three' started almost on day 1 you will see that Williams, Daniels and Nix are all within 350 yards of each other. By the end of the year, who knows who will have the most yards. I mean, he isn't bad. He's 15th in total yards, has a 2:1 Td to int ratio and, other than the insane number of sacks he has taken hasn't played too badly. If he finishes on this path he will end up with 3651 passing yards which would be fifth all time. What is truly sad is that Caleb Williams will probably be only the 6th quarterback in Bears history to actually pass three thousand yards.

Even if he only ends up around 3500 with possibly 17TDs and 8 INTs that is among the best Chicago has fielded, and Williams is a rookie playing with a terrible offensive line. So, I guess that is something positive to take out of this season.

Please excuse Mitch Trubisky from this analysis. His receivers were Wright, Bellamy and Inman, not DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and Rome Odunze .

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

You’re trying to be annoyingly pedantic, and you’re not even succeeding at that.

Passer rating has never been an official stat. It’s a formula invented in 1973 based on official stats that have been officially tabulated for like a century.

That’s why I can learn with a simple pro football reference search that, for example, Sammy Baugh, drafted in 1937, had a career passer rating of 72.2.

I knew that Williams was better than John Elway, Terry Bradshaw and Steve Young....but you've now informed me that he's also better than Sammy Baugh! Amazing stuff on this board.